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| Peter Cushing's Ghost... |
 Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:24 pm |
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"koTex" farted:
[quote]Peter Cushing's Ghost wrote:
Meanwhile Russia's N1 never made it more than a minute into flight and
their first Soyuz manned flight resulted in the first space flight death.
Tell us what you know about the N1's engines, rocket boy. Yes, this is a
quiz. Most of us are already pretty aware of Soyuz' and shuttles successes
and failures.
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When you post anything - anything to prove your nonsense has been published
in any print journal maybe I'll grant you a little peek into what I know
about the N1 engines. |
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| Peter Cushing's Ghost... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:26 pm |
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"koTex" burped:
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Like Apollo. So much for the success of Apollo.
I'm sorry, please remind me of all of your projects that have gone
anywhere?
Well, the silo house and farm is gone, sold to the developers.
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"Silo house....." LOL!
Did the money get you a big enough trailer to live the rest of your pathetic
existence in?
[quote]Bitter people who've wasted their lives are always the most amusing.
Testosterone addled American retards posting about things they know little
about is amusing as well. Were you even alive for the Apollo landings? Let
me clue you in, the program was canceled long before it finished. Most of
my projects still exist in the real world. You are welcome to falsify any
of my hypotheses with your own personal evidence.
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Again I have to remind you I'm not an American, you clod. And the funniest
thing is - you are! HA! |
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| kT... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:19 pm |
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Derek Lyons wrote:
[quote]RalphE <ralph at (no spam) open-aerospace.org> wrote:
Frankly I *hate* the idea of a return to capsules, but for only journeys to the space
station, I can't see the point of larger expenditures on transport right now.
I think that is actually a very important point, which is very much
overlooked in the debate. The key to a successful space program (IMO)
is sustainability.
You use the term 'sustainability' as if it were a technical or legal
term with a widely understood and unambiguous meaning. Which it
isn't.
'Sustainability' is a buzzword borrowed from the Green movement (where
it isn't entirely unambiguous either) because it is a hot marketing
term currently.
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What's the 'green movement'? Sounds like diarrhea of the mouth,
something an idiot libertarian totally out of touch with reality would
say. Sustainability with regards to space programs does have a
definition, it means that the program of an evolutionary derivative is
still in existence. With this definition, Apollo was not sustainable but
the space shuttle and space station are. Constellation is unsustainable.
[quote]The key to that is public interest/support. Returning to Apollo's
spam-in-a-can architecture doesn't inspire anybody, and therefore
there isn't any public support.
Horseshit. The goverment enages in all manner of programs, highly
visible and nearly invisible, regardless of public support or even
wide public awareness.
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Which has nothing to do with Apollo and Constellation unsustainability.
Thus far the private air transportation industry has been sustainable,
and Constellation is as far from that paradigm as one can possibly get. |
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| kT... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:32 pm |
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Peter Cushing's Ghost wrote:
[quote]When you post anything - anything to prove your nonsense has been
published in any print journal maybe I'll grant you a little peek into
what I know about the N1 engines.
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Spec Sci Tech 17, 85 (1994)
Nobody cares about print journals or credentials anymore.
Although it's pretty obvious you don't have any.
Good luck over at sci.skeptic.
They're gonna love ya! |
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| kT... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:38 pm |
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Peter Cushing's Ghost wrote:
[quote]"koTex" burped:
Like Apollo. So much for the success of Apollo.
I'm sorry, please remind me of all of your projects that have gone
anywhere?
Well, the silo house and farm is gone, sold to the developers.
"Silo house....." LOL!
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http://www.cusd.cornell.edu/wordpress/
I was just three decades ahead of the competition.
http://webpages.charter.net/tsiolkovsky/Commercial_Crew.pdf
[quote]Did the money get you a big enough trailer to live the rest of your
pathetic existence in?
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I have no idea what you are talking about. I did live on a one acre
crown land island in the Bahamas for seven years, testing out concepts
for space colonization. That was a whole lotta fun. What have you done?
[quote]Bitter people who've wasted their lives are always the most amusing.
Testosterone addled American retards posting about things they know
little about is amusing as well. Were you even alive for the Apollo
landings? Let me clue you in, the program was canceled long before it
finished. Most of my projects still exist in the real world. You are
welcome to falsify any of my hypotheses with your own personal evidence.
Again I have to remind you I'm not an American, you clod.
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Then what is your complaint of my criticism of my fellow Americans?
[quote]And the
funniest thing is - you are! HA!
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Sure, the economic failure through greed, of the greatest nation in the
WHOLE UNIVERSE is real funny. I see satire and sarcasm is lost on you. |
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| Peter Cushing's Ghost... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:24 pm |
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"Silo house....." LOL!
[quote]
http://www.cusd.cornell.edu/wordpress/
I was just three decades ahead of the competition.
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Yeah. Those guys should have painted big smiley faces on their barns and
built rickety houses on top of grain silos. That's a model for the future.
HA!
[quote]Again I have to remind you I'm not an American, you clod.
Then what is your complaint of my criticism of my fellow Americans?
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My dear imbecile. You lumped me in with "you Americans." Comprehension not
one of your strong points, is it? |
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| kT... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:42 pm |
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Peter Cushing's Ghost wrote:
[quote]"Silo house....." LOL!
http://www.cusd.cornell.edu/wordpress/
I was just three decades ahead of the competition.
Yeah. Those guys should have painted big smiley faces on their barns
and built rickety houses on top of grain silos. That's a model for the
future. HA!
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And I invented the modern hydroponic grow room in the mid seventies,
determined the nutrient solution composition and uptake via flame
photospectroscopy, and implemented the technology across the nation.
Feel free to assess the jobs and wealth created by that technology, and
its relevance to closed ecological life support system design, which was
the original motivations for developing my hydroponic and composting
technology in the first place. Americans of that era outclass Americans
of this era by an order of magnitude thanks to a post Sputnik education.
It was strong enough to withstand anything but a direct tornado hit.
Overengineering is a philosophy of life with people like myself.
There is a reason for overengineering, can you tell me?
[quote]Again I have to remind you I'm not an American, you clod.
Then what is your complaint of my criticism of my fellow Americans?
My dear imbecile. You lumped me in with "you Americans." Comprehension
not one of your strong points, is it?
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However, not being an American doesn't exempt you from the shoutout.
You've earned it just from your responses thus far.
Good luck with that British rocket of yours. |
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| Peter Cushing's Ghost... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:56 pm |
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"kT" queefed:
[quote]And I invented the modern hydroponic grow room in the mid seventies,
determined the nutrient solution composition and uptake via flame
photospectroscopy, and implemented the technology across the nation.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I invented the matter teleporter but for some reason
no one's interested. We all have our imaginary crosses to bear.
What's the patent number, Einstein. Let me guess, someone stole your ideas
and is profiting from them while you languish in Kooksville, USA bitterly
ranting all day long on Usenet while collecting welfare.
[quote]Feel free to assess the jobs and wealth created by that technology, and
its relevance to closed ecological life support system design, which was
the original motivations for developing my hydroponic and composting
technology in the first place. Americans of that era outclass Americans of
this era by an order of magnitude thanks to a post Sputnik education.
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Which "era" is composed of the most whackjobs, because you clearly belong in
that "era," Spudnick.
And your still too stupid and OCD-impaired to get the fact I'm yanking your
chain for the sheer fun of it. I don't care about your imaginary hydroponic
glow rooms, the Ares program or any of your wacky viewpoints. The only
thing that draws me into this group on a rare basis is comments and info
regarding the 60's and early 70's manned space program. Laughing you and
watching you froth at the mouth all day long has just been an unexpected
bonus the past few days. |
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| Wayne Throop... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:08 pm |
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:: And I invented the modern hydroponic grow room in the mid seventies,
:: determined the nutrient solution composition and uptake via flame
:: photospectroscopy, and implemented the technology across the nation.
: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I invented the matter teleporter but for some
: reason no one's interested.
I'm the only tar who 'ere jumped ship from Vanderveken's crew,
and that's about the biggest thing a man will ever do.
Wayne Throop throopw at (no spam) sheol.org http://sheol.org/throopw |
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| Pat Flannery... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:44 pm |
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Me wrote:
[quote]The DOD and USAF have no interest in Constellation whatsoever and much
less in Ares I.
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I see Orion... I see Orion with a 30mm rotary cannon on it, and a belly
full of Air Force Star Commandos.
I see it opposing a Klendathu bug attack on the Moon, and some Dutch guy
making a movie about the whole thing. :-)
Pat |
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| BradGuth... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:21 am |
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On Oct 24, 10:40 am, Pat Flannery <flan... at (no spam) daktel.com> wrote:
[quote]http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18031-white-house-panel-sees-li...
Commercializing launchers via complete NASA incompetence is a whole new
approach to privatizing space. :-)
Pat
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With India and China picking up the slack, as not 10% the cost per kg
sent on its way, perhaps it's time to cut our losses and tun with the
much cheaper flow.
It's not that Ares type launches can't provide a higher risk
alternative that's somewhat cheaper and otherwise better at polluting
our environment (especially when they explode), whereas instead it's a
way of DoD proof-testing methods of weapons delivery and of course
getting us to pay for it. As otherwise the 100% reliable Saturn 5 and
of its less insert upgrades that could easily launch <25% more tonnage
than Apollo is what needs to be revived, and on a scale of production
that would get its 100% reliable per launch cost down.
Ideally a fully reusable alternative that's mostly liquid fueled along
with solid reusable boosters that are also reusable would be nice. In
other words a better shuttle that can fly as fully robotic unless crew
is needed for the given mission, and for example it would be nice if
this replacement shuttle didn't have to use dead-weight as corrective
ballast.
btw, it looks as though Ares came to within a degree of tilt at
launch, of becoming a serious problem.
~ BG |
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| BradGuth... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:29 am |
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On Oct 30, 8:46 am, Me <charliexmur... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 25, 1:18 am, Pat Flannery <flan... at (no spam) daktel.com> wrote:
David Spain wrote:
The Augustine Commission's final report is 157 pages long. I'm plowing
through it,
but honestly can't say I find anything wrong going the COTS route.
We can quibble over exactly *what* commercial tech should be employed..
You can see why the Air Force is interested after looking at Constellation:
"You know who could do a better job at this than NASA? _We_ could do a
better job at this than NASA"
"Hell, sir, the Army National Guard could do a better job at this than
NASA."
"God-damned Army National Guard..." ;-)
Pat
The DOD and USAF have no interest in Constellation whatsoever and much
less in Ares I.
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That's a lie. Besides, without having to exclude civil service and
their private contractors, perhaps our USAF and DoD should be at least
in charge of getting the most payload per dollar into orbit.
~ BG |
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| kT... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:49 am |
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Peter Cushing's Ghost wrote:
[quote]"kT" queefed:
And I invented the modern hydroponic grow room in the mid seventies,
determined the nutrient solution composition and uptake via flame
photospectroscopy, and implemented the technology across the nation.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I invented the matter teleporter but for some
reason no one's interested. We all have our imaginary crosses to bear.
[/quote]
Let's see, what is more imaginary, matter teleportation, or hydroponic
grow rooms?
[quote]What's the patent number, Einstein. Let me guess, someone stole your
ideas and is profiting from them while you languish in Kooksville, USA
bitterly ranting all day long on Usenet while collecting welfare.
Feel free to assess the jobs and wealth created by that technology,
and its relevance to closed ecological life support system design,
which was the original motivations for developing my hydroponic and
composting technology in the first place. Americans of that era
outclass Americans of this era by an order of magnitude thanks to a
post Sputnik education.
Which "era" is composed of the most whackjobs, because you clearly
belong in that "era," Spudnick.
And your still too stupid and OCD-impaired to get the fact I'm yanking
your chain for the sheer fun of it. I don't care about your imaginary
hydroponic glow rooms, the Ares program or any of your wacky
viewpoints. The only thing that draws me into this group on a rare
basis is comments and info regarding the 60's and early 70's manned
space program. Laughing you and watching you froth at the mouth all day
long has just been an unexpected bonus the past few days.
[/quote]
Glad to oblige. I'm always happy to supply skeptics and speculators with
hard data. |
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