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| Yousuf Khan... |
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Astronomers identify 32 new planets - Oddities - Charleston Daily Mail
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"What astronomers said is especially exciting is that about 40 percent
of sun-like stars have planets that are closer to being Earth-sized than
the size of Jupiter. Jupiter's mass is more than 300 times that of Earth's."
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| Andrew Usher... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:23 pm |
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On Oct 21, 3:21 pm, Yousuf Khan <bbb... at (no spam) spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]Astronomers identify 32 new planets - Oddities - Charleston Daily Mail
- West Virginia News and Sports -
"What astronomers said is especially exciting is that about 40 percent
of sun-like stars have planets that are closer to being Earth-sized than
the size of Jupiter. Jupiter's mass is more than 300 times that of Earth's."http://www.dailymail.com/News/oddities/200910190734
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Any scientific article on this?
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| Yousuf Khan... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:59 pm |
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Andrew Usher wrote:
[quote]On Oct 21, 3:21 pm, Yousuf Khan <bbb... at (no spam) spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
Astronomers identify 32 new planets - Oddities - Charleston Daily Mail
- West Virginia News and Sports -
"What astronomers said is especially exciting is that about 40 percent
of sun-like stars have planets that are closer to being Earth-sized than
the size of Jupiter. Jupiter's mass is more than 300 times that of Earth's."http://www.dailymail.com/News/oddities/200910190734
Any scientific article on this?
Andrew Usher
[/quote]
You mean just something from a scientific website, or something that has
formulas and graphs and stuff?
If it's the former, then how about this one (video included):
32 New Exoplanets Discovered | International Space Fellowship
http://spacefellowship.com/2009/10/19/32-new-exoplanets-discovered/
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| John Polasek... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:49 pm |
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:59:54 -0400, Yousuf Khan
<bbbl67 at (no spam) spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]Andrew Usher wrote:
On Oct 21, 3:21 pm, Yousuf Khan <bbb... at (no spam) spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
Astronomers identify 32 new planets - Oddities - Charleston Daily Mail
- West Virginia News and Sports -
"What astronomers said is especially exciting is that about 40 percent
of sun-like stars have planets that are closer to being Earth-sized than
the size of Jupiter. Jupiter's mass is more than 300 times that of Earth's."http://www.dailymail.com/News/oddities/200910190734
Any scientific article on this?
Andrew Usher
You mean just something from a scientific website, or something that has
formulas and graphs and stuff?
If it's the former, then how about this one (video included):
32 New Exoplanets Discovered | International Space Fellowship
http://spacefellowship.com/2009/10/19/32-new-exoplanets-discovered/
Yousuf Khan
Space Fellowship makes it practically impossible to register. It's[/quote]
amusing, what iron fences these websites choose to erect. Three or
four attempts is my limit. I was going to comment this about their
graphics:
"I think you owe the viewers an explanation as to the source of the
truly brilliant graphics, which, it seems, must be totally synthetic.
Is the large globe the earth? Even the best images of our nearest
neighbor alpha Centauri, 4 ly distant displays as smudgy discs (3).
There is a sickening amount of fakery as it is on the science
channels, I think the computer graphics artists should complain as
they do all the work but get no credit."
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| Yousuf Khan... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:15 pm |
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John Polasek wrote:
[quote]Space Fellowship makes it practically impossible to register. It's
amusing, what iron fences these websites choose to erect. Three or
four attempts is my limit. I was going to comment this about their
graphics:
"I think you owe the viewers an explanation as to the source of the
truly brilliant graphics, which, it seems, must be totally synthetic.
Is the large globe the earth? Even the best images of our nearest
neighbor alpha Centauri, 4 ly distant displays as smudgy discs (3).
There is a sickening amount of fakery as it is on the science
channels, I think the computer graphics artists should complain as
they do all the work but get no credit."
John Polasek
[/quote]
The video was provided by the European Southern Observatory (ESO), not
by Space Fellowship. I think thou dost protest too much. :-)
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| John Polasek... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:48 pm |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:15:56 -0400, Yousuf Khan
<bbbl67 at (no spam) spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]John Polasek wrote:
Space Fellowship makes it practically impossible to register. It's
amusing, what iron fences these websites choose to erect. Three or
four attempts is my limit. I was going to comment this about their
graphics:
"I think you owe the viewers an explanation as to the source of the
truly brilliant graphics, which, it seems, must be totally synthetic.
Is the large globe the earth? Even the best images of our nearest
neighbor alpha Centauri, 4 ly distant displays as smudgy discs (3).
There is a sickening amount of fakery as it is on the science
channels, I think the computer graphics artists should complain as
they do all the work but get no credit."
John Polasek
The video was provided by the European Southern Observatory (ESO), not
by Space Fellowship. I think thou dost protest too much. :-)
Yousuf Khan
In the newspaper site below, the author took care to use the words[/quote]
"artistic rendition."
http://www.dailymail.com/News/oddities/200910190734
But if you look at the ESO version there is no such clarification.
So I still say that these agencies need to be more forthright.
And, I repeat my question: Was that large sphere the earth, and if so,
where was the photographer standing? They owe us at least that.
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| Androcles... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:00 pm |
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"John Polasek" <jpolasek at (no spam) cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
news:os9ke5dq2v6kddknag0cnaj1fkeq0vm9gd at (no spam) 4ax.com...
[quote]On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:15:56 -0400, Yousuf Khan
bbbl67 at (no spam) spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
John Polasek wrote:
Space Fellowship makes it practically impossible to register. It's
amusing, what iron fences these websites choose to erect. Three or
four attempts is my limit. I was going to comment this about their
graphics:
"I think you owe the viewers an explanation as to the source of the
truly brilliant graphics, which, it seems, must be totally synthetic.
Is the large globe the earth? Even the best images of our nearest
neighbor alpha Centauri, 4 ly distant displays as smudgy discs (3).
There is a sickening amount of fakery as it is on the science
channels, I think the computer graphics artists should complain as
they do all the work but get no credit."
John Polasek
The video was provided by the European Southern Observatory (ESO), not
by Space Fellowship. I think thou dost protest too much. :-)
Yousuf Khan
In the newspaper site below, the author took care to use the words
"artistic rendition."
http://www.dailymail.com/News/oddities/200910190734
But if you look at the ESO version there is no such clarification.
So I still say that these agencies need to be more forthright.
And, I repeat my question: Was that large sphere the earth, and if so,
where was the photographer standing? They owe us at least that.
John Polasek
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So I'll repeat the answer, "This artist rendering provided by the European
South Observatory..."
So give a URL to the ESO version, you owe us at least that. |
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| Yousuf Khan... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:16 am |
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John Polasek wrote:
[quote]On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:15:56 -0400, Yousuf Khan
bbbl67 at (no spam) spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
John Polasek wrote:
"I think you owe the viewers an explanation as to the source of the
truly brilliant graphics, which, it seems, must be totally synthetic.
Is the large globe the earth? Even the best images of our nearest
neighbor alpha Centauri, 4 ly distant displays as smudgy discs (3).
There is a sickening amount of fakery as it is on the science
channels, I think the computer graphics artists should complain as
they do all the work but get no credit."
John Polasek
The video was provided by the European Southern Observatory (ESO), not
by Space Fellowship. I think thou dost protest too much. :-)
Yousuf Khan
In the newspaper site below, the author took care to use the words
"artistic rendition."
http://www.dailymail.com/News/oddities/200910190734
But if you look at the ESO version there is no such clarification.
So I still say that these agencies need to be more forthright.
And, I repeat my question: Was that large sphere the earth, and if so,
where was the photographer standing? They owe us at least that.
John Polasek
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I think most people have figured out that it's just an animation, not
true photography. Most photographs of Earth are taken from the Space
Shuttle or the ISS, and from low-orbit, so the perspective is quite obvious.
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| John Polasek... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:16 pm |
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:16:12 -0500, Yousuf Khan
<bbbl67 at (no spam) spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]John Polasek wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:15:56 -0400, Yousuf Khan
bbbl67 at (no spam) spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
John Polasek wrote:
"I think you owe the viewers an explanation as to the source of the
truly brilliant graphics, which, it seems, must be totally synthetic.
Is the large globe the earth? Even the best images of our nearest
neighbor alpha Centauri, 4 ly distant displays as smudgy discs (3).
There is a sickening amount of fakery as it is on the science
channels, I think the computer graphics artists should complain as
they do all the work but get no credit."
John Polasek
The video was provided by the European Southern Observatory (ESO), not
by Space Fellowship. I think thou dost protest too much. :-)
Yousuf Khan
In the newspaper site below, the author took care to use the words
"artistic rendition."
http://www.dailymail.com/News/oddities/200910190734
But if you look at the ESO version there is no such clarification.
So I still say that these agencies need to be more forthright.
And, I repeat my question: Was that large sphere the earth, and if so,
where was the photographer standing? They owe us at least that.
John Polasek
I think most people have figured out that it's just an animation, not
true photography. Most photographs of Earth are taken from the Space
Shuttle or the ISS, and from low-orbit, so the perspective is quite obvious.
Yousuf Khan
On last night's Science Channel, regarding the search for other[/quote]
planets, several optimistic remarks were heard, such as (IIRC) "it is
expected with further advances to get more detailed pictures of the
planets" knowing full well that even images of the closest star are
only approximate smudges. Their brilliant presentations boggle the
mind, but I still think they owe to the public to indicate directly
that these are all simulations, and copiously embellished ones.
John Polasek |
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