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Subject: WaPo: Kaiser Helpin Medicine? with the HIV vaccine for "Lyme
Disease?"
Date: Oct 24, 2009 11:22 AM
ARTICLE BELOW
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WaPo: Best answer to anti-public option
argument = Kaiser's failed HIV vaccine
against "Lyme Disease:"
http://www.lymecryme.com/rich_text_21.html
We do not need the likes of Kaiser's
Israeli ALDF.com Whores telling us we need
a vaccine for a non-disease, and have that
be the very failed Tuberculosis/HIV vaccines:
http://www.actionlyme.org/FUNGAL_VACCINES.htm
KAISER-PERMENANTE were the ones who
freaked over the 1989 IDSA Reviews:
http://www.actionlyme.org/CHP9_IDSA_REVIEWS.htm
Kaiser help set up the stupid little
McSweegan-Fish Lyme cabal at NYMC, the
financially failing Catholic Medical
College:
http://www.actionlyme.org/CONNOLLY_FISH_WEINSTEIN.htm
Jus aks Unweinstein ABOUDIT:
http://www.actionlyme.org/index.htm
Unweinstein was the "Master Validator."
He played a role in every aspect of the
cryme:
http://www.actionlyme.org/WEINSTEIN_DEARBORN2.jpg
Weinstein was the ^^^ sole member of the
"Work Group" to approve of Steere's bogus
Dearborn proposal, imaginated in Europe,
alone, by Allen Steere with funky strains
and recombinant OspA-B:
http://www.actionlyme.org/STEERE_IN_EUROPE.htm
All of these stupid, debased:
http://www.actionlyme.org/GOLDWATER_LETTER.htm
filthy-mouthed Fish and Penis-Talkers,
Durland and Sweeg, were working for
BigInsurance, who wanted a vaccine instead
of paying the medical bills for Relapsing Fever,
an incurable brain infection:
http://www.actionlyme.org/BRAIN_PERMANENT.htm
http://www.actionlyme.org/CRYME_DISEASE.htm
So, they invented that Lyme was a knee
http://www.actionlyme.org/USDOJ_COMPLAINT_RICO.htm
because knee-diseases do not need the
expensive treatment called for for
chronic encephalitis:
http://www.actionlyme.org/PHILLIPS_JE_PERVERT.htm
How did every single effing ^^^ nerve coming
out of my neck get damaged?
Not enough penis?
Ya think?
Kaiser knows how to hunt for stupid-
whores-and-psychopaths to do their
bidding, just like the Israelis hunted
down the likes of Dickless Cheney to do
their bidding. All you do is flatter
them:
http://www.actionlyme.org/INDEPUGNICANTS.htm
Sweeg = "Hung like a horse"
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.diseases.lyme/msg/cca3e986469db781?dmode=source
says ^^^ Yale's Durland Fish.
Oh.
KMDickson
http://www.actionlyme.org
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/23/AR2009102304081_pf.html
Prognosis improves for public insurance
MOMENTUM SHIFT IS DRAMATIC Top Democrats push option in health-care
legislation
By Shailagh Murray and Lori Montgomery
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, October 24, 2009
Democratic leaders in the Senate and House have concluded that a
government-run insurance plan is the cheapest way to expand health
coverage, and they sought Friday to rally support for the idea,
prospects for which have gone in a few short weeks from bleak to
bright.
The shift in momentum is so dramatic that many lawmakers now predict
that President Obama will sign a final bill that includes some form of
government-sponsored insurance for people who do not receive coverage
through the workplace. Even Democrats with strong reservations about
expanding government's role in the health-care system say they are
reconsidering the approach in hopes of making low-cost plans broadly
available.
Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (Nev.) and House Speaker Nancy
Pelosi (Calif.) sought support Friday for expansive versions of the
public option as they prepared to send reform legislation to the
Senate and House floors. Their goal is to pass bills with similar
versions of the public insurance option so that final talks between
the two chambers can focus on other issues that could prove more
difficult to resolve.
The public option emerged as a flash point in the reform debate at the
outset, with liberals championing it as a precursor to a single-payer
system and conservatives warning that it would lead to rationing. The
rhetoric reached a fever pitch in hundreds of raucous town-hall
meetings during the August congressional recess, leading Democrats --
including Obama -- to back off the idea for fear that it would sink
overall reform legislation.
On Friday, congressional leaders marveled at how quickly the landscape
has changed. "This is an exact quote: 'Off the table,' " House
Majority Whip James E. Clyburn (S.C.) said, recalling the headlines
earlier this month when the Senate Finance Committee rejected two
versions of the public option in its reform bill.
Clyburn said the debate is no longer whether to include a public
option, but "whether or not we will get this form of a public option
or that form of a public option." Since the talk of "death panels" at
town-hall meetings in August, Clyburn said, the political climate has
changed as voters have come to understand "that all of this
foolishness was just that -- foolishness. Nobody wants to pull the
plug on Grandma."
Frustrating to some
The public-option debate is frustrating some Democrats, who have come
to believe that a government-run plan is neither as radical as its
conservative critics have portrayed, nor as important as its liberal
supporters contend. Any public plan is likely to have a relatively
narrow scope, as it would be offered only to people who don't have
access to coverage through an employer.
The public option would effectively be just another insurance plan
offered on the open market. It would likely be administered by a
private insurance provider, charging premiums and copayments like any
other policy. In an early estimate of the House bill, the
Congressional Budget Office forecast that fewer than 12 million people
would buy insurance through the government plan.
Sen. Mary Landrieu (La.), a moderate Democrat, said she still opposes
a national plan financed by the federal government but would consider
other permutations of a public plan, including a provision Reid is
circulating to establish an "opt-out" clause for states that don't
want to participate. "There is a way to compromise this, I believe,"
she said. "The goal is not public or private. The goal is choice and
affordability."
Reid's strategy is to try to persuade his Democratic caucus to allow a
health-care bill with an opt-out public plan to come to the floor,
even if there is no guarantee that all 60 senators who caucus with
Democrats would ultimately vote for it. All 40 Senate Republicans,
including Sen. Olympia J. Snowe (Maine), who supported the Finance
Committee bill, have pledged to block legislation that includes a
government insurance plan. Reid must unite Democrats to break that
filibuster.
"He's knows what he's doing is a gamble," Reid spokesman Jim Manley
said. "But more and more, he's convinced it's the right thing to do."
Reid's calculation is that it could be more difficult to add a public
option through amendments on the Senate floor than to include it in
the bill and force opponents to try to find the votes to strip it out.
Manley said Reid would spend the weekend canvassing Democrats on the
opt-out idea and would probably decide Monday whether to include it in
the Senate bill.
Noncommittal response
The Democratic leader pitched the opt-out idea to Obama at a White
House meeting Thursday night and received a noncommittal response.
Several senior Democratic sources said Obama is wary about alienating
Snowe -- the only Republican so far to support a Democratic health-
care measure -- and had already concluded that her plan for a
"trigger" that would create a public option if private insurers don't
offer affordable rates represented a satisfactory compromise.
Reid's original inclination was to leave the public option out of a
final bill he is writing from measures passed by the finance and
health committees. But his liberal colleagues began urging him two
weeks ago to reconsider, after insurance industry forecasts that
premiums would rise sharply under the Finance Committee bill, which
lacked a public option. The report had the effect of prodding
Democrats to look for better ways to control costs, and the public
option -- strongly opposed by the insurance industry -- reemerged as a
possible solution.
Because a government-run plan would be dedicated to holding down costs
and would lack a profit motive, congressional budget analysts predict
that it could reduce the cost of expanding coverage to people who
don't have it by as much as $100 billion over the next decade.
In the House, Pelosi was still trying to line up votes for the most
cost-effective version of the public plan, one that would pay
providers based on Medicare rates. Rank-and-file House Democrats
summoned Friday to an early-morning caucus were asked to say publicly
whether they would vote for a bill that included such a provision.
Muddying the waters
Senior Democrats said it was still unclear whether that idea would
prevail. While support for a "robust" public option is strong, they
said, other issues are muddying the waters. For example, as many as 20
votes hinge on resolving a battle over abortion that has pitted an
unyielding abortion-rights faction against antiabortion Democrats who
want to make sure no federal money is used to pay for the procedure.
House leaders planned to work through the weekend to resolve as many
individual concerns as possible, with the goal of producing a bill as
soon as next week.
As part of that painstaking lobbying effort, Pelosi told reporters
that she may have to resort to a version of the public plan that would
allow providers to negotiate rates, presumably resulting in more
generous payments. In the Senate, a plan that ties rates to Medicare
is a nonstarter.
Both Pelosi and Clyburn said they would be open to the Senate's opt-
out approach. "I don't think there's much problem with that," Pelosi
said. Clyburn added: "All they're debating is whether or not to allow
states to opt out of it, but you'll still have the same public
option."
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news."-- NIH's Top Fool, Anthony Fauci |
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