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| Richard Crowley... |
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| Tim Hill... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:30 pm |
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In article
<9d1d9d4b-8a98-4d1d-b57b-52d476fb40b8 at (no spam) b25g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
Thomas Paterson <t_p_paterson at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
[quote:1e021440ca]On Oct 8, 1:16 am, "Richard Crowley" <rcrow... at (no spam) xp7rt.net> wrote:
Thomas Paterson wrote:
Try the IALD group, if each of us posts on their something worth
discussing, each week for a few weeks, we'll bring it to life - it
has a big membership, but they're passive at this stage. I'm sure
we can activate a bunch of them. See you there? Terry's signed
up, we just need to start a few debates.
"Because this group is exclusive to IALD and LIRC members, it will
take 2-3 business days to approve your request. "
Since I don't even know what IALD or LIRC are, seems unlikely that I
will be participating. Ideal way to limit traffic and participation.
Good luck with that.
Apologies, I didn't realize that one had restricted membership.
http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=133941&trk=myg_ugrp_ovr (Lighting
Designer's Group) is fairly active.
http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=66644&trk=myg_ugrp_ovr (liGHTnet)
is less active but has potential.
Not sure if those links will work for you.
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Is English the first language on Linkedin?
Thinks like "This group is to connect the lighting designer present on
Liked in." implies there is only one who wants to connect with
him/herself and we shouldn't go there. Typos in a place like that make it
look amateur and ill-conceived. And not 'Liked' ;-)
liGhtnet is camel-case taken a step too far and would appear to have a
childish outlook.
And those two things were found on the pages linked to above. My only
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| Thomas Paterson... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:13 pm |
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On Oct 10, 3:30 pm, Tim Hill <t... at (no spam) invalid.org.uk> wrote:
[quote:146e27bf8a]In article
9d1d9d4b-8a98-4d1d-b57b-52d476fb4... at (no spam) b25g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
Thomas Paterson <t_p_pater... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 8, 1:16 am, "Richard Crowley" <rcrow... at (no spam) xp7rt.net> wrote:
Thomas Paterson wrote:
Try the IALD group, if each of us posts on their something worth
discussing, each week for a few weeks, we'll bring it to life - it
has a big membership, but they're passive at this stage. I'm sure
we can activate a bunch of them. See you there? Terry's signed
up, we just need to start a few debates.
"Because this group is exclusive to IALD and LIRC members, it will
take 2-3 business days to approve your request. "
Since I don't even know what IALD or LIRC are, seems unlikely that I
will be participating. Ideal way to limit traffic and participation.
Good luck with that.
Apologies, I didn't realize that one had restricted membership.
http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=133941&trk=myg_ugrp_ovr (Lighting
Designer's Group) is fairly active.
http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=66644&trk=myg_ugrp_ovr (liGHTnet)
is less active but has potential.
Not sure if those links will work for you.
Is English the first language on Linkedin?
Thinks like "This group is to connect the lighting designer present on
Liked in." implies there is only one who wants to connect with
him/herself and we shouldn't go there. Typos in a place like that make it
look amateur and ill-conceived. And not 'Liked' ;-)
liGhtnet is camel-case taken a step too far and would appear to have a
childish outlook.
And those two things were found on the pages linked to above. My only
urge is to click the windows' close icon.
[/quote:146e27bf8a]
Perhaps a little intolerant of our English as a Second Language
friends? I'm suffering through learning to live in a second language,
I rely on a lot of tolerances. Surely we can judge them on content,
or contribute content and see what responses we get? Some of the
English on SEL leaves a little to be desired too!
T. |
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| Carnations... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:47 pm |
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On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:13:25 -0700, Thomas Paterson wrote:
[quote:bfc895f457]Perhaps a little intolerant of our English as a Second Language friends?
I'm suffering through learning to live in a second language, I rely on a
lot of tolerances. Surely we can judge them on content, or contribute
content and see what responses we get? Some of the English on SEL
leaves a little to be desired too!
[/quote:bfc895f457]
To be frank and directly to the point, I have:
+ little patience for those native speakers of English who can't write coherent standard English,
+ more patience for non-native English-speakers who are clearly attempting to use good Standard
English,
+ zero tolerance of Chinglish and other successful attempts at utterly butchering the English language.
By some that is called "intolerant". I consider it to be a respect for good standard English grammar.
I can understand all native English accents, and most non-native accents where the person learned to
speak English from native English speakers.
I see no point in tolerating poor grammar - especially if the result is ambiguous - as the person needs to
get up to speed quickly and tolerating faulty grammar will not help the person.
But if clearly they are a tourist struggling to communicate in a tongue that is not their own while
temporarily in a land that is not their own, I have plenty of patience for them as I would want the same if
I was in the same situation.
I used to work with a woman who was Malay Chinese and had been living in English-speaking
countries for many years. Her English was appallingly bad except when she took the time to write
carefully in which case it was only somewhat slightly faulty. Otherwise it was pure Chinglish most of the
time.
How would it have benefited her and our company to accept her Chinglish instead of insisting on
standard English?
I think tolerance and respect is called for where tolerance and respect is due, but not otherwise.
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| Sean... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:57 am |
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Carnations wrote:
[quote:50570222de]I can understand all native English accents
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*All*? Are you quite sure about that?
I can't even understand all the regional accents that are native to England,
let alone some of the denser ones from elsewhere in the UK and beyond.  |
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| Atlantic Illumination Entertainment Lighting... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:15 pm |
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Thomas Paterson wrote:
[quote]On Oct 10, 3:30=A0pm, Tim Hill <t... at (no spam) invalid.org.uk> wrote:
Is English the first language on Linkedin?
Thinks like "This group is to connect the lighting designer present on
Liked in." implies there is only one who wants to connect with
him/herself and we shouldn't go there. Typos in a place like that make it
look amateur and ill-conceived. And not 'Liked' ;-)
liGhtnet is camel-case taken a step too far and would appear to have a
childish outlook.
And those two things were found on the pages linked to above. My only
urge is to click the windows' close icon.
Perhaps a little intolerant of our English as a Second Language
friends? I'm suffering through learning to live in a second language,
I rely on a lot of tolerances. Surely we can judge them on content,
or contribute content and see what responses we get? Some of the
English on SEL leaves a little to be desired too!
T.
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*** The problem is that those who write and speak poorly imply a poor
education on their part. It's hard to attach much weight to comments if
a poster is perceived to have not bothered to learn grade-school subjects.
That leads to the question: "What else has that poster not bothered to
learn?"
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Richard Bonner
http://AIEL.chebucto.biz |
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| Atlantic Illumination Entertainment Lighting... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:19 pm |
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Carnations wrote:
[quote]On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:13:25 -0700, Thomas Paterson wrote:
Perhaps a little intolerant of our English as a Second Language friends?
I'm suffering through learning to live in a second language, I rely on a
lot of tolerances. Surely we can judge them on content, or contribute
content and see what responses we get? Some of the English on SEL
leaves a little to be desired too!
To be frank and directly to the point, I have:
+ little patience for those native speakers of English who can't write
coherent standard English,
+ more patience for non-native English-speakers who are clearly
attempting to use good Standard English,
+ zero tolerance of Chinglish and other successful attempts at utterly
butchering the English language.
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*** Include Ebonics in that, please.
[quote]By some that is called "intolerant". I consider it to be a respect for
good standard English grammar.
[/quote]
*** I consider it respect for education in general, the level of which
has sunk to new lows. )-:
[quote]I see no point in tolerating poor grammar - especially if the result is
ambiguous - as the person needs to >get up to speed quickly and
tolerating faulty grammar will not help the person.
[/quote]
*** Yup, it's akin to allowing errors in any subject to pass without
constructive corrections.
[quote]I think tolerance and respect is called for where tolerance and respect
is due, but not otherwise.
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*** I agree.
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Richard Bonner
http://AIEL.chebucto.biz |
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