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| Tony Sivori... |
 Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:46 am |
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I have an upper partial with a metal base that is two years old this
month.
It replaces the four front teeth and three molars. At about the one year
mark, all three molars broke off. I had those replaced (at a different
dentist) four months ago.
Now all four front teeth broke off last night. I had to take an unexcused
absence today from my work to get it dropped off for repair.
I don't eat extremely hard food, nor do I crunch on hard candy or ice.
That said, I do eat normally, for instance an occasional steak and much
more frequently foods that require vigorous chewing such as raw fruit and
salads.
Is this kind of thing normal?
How long, if at all, do the resident dentists here warranty partials
against breakage in normal use?
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| Steven Bornfeld... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:11 am |
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Tony Sivori wrote:
[quote:b552a764e0]I have an upper partial with a metal base that is two years old this
month.
It replaces the four front teeth and three molars. At about the one year
mark, all three molars broke off. I had those replaced (at a different
dentist) four months ago.
Now all four front teeth broke off last night. I had to take an unexcused
absence today from my work to get it dropped off for repair.
I don't eat extremely hard food, nor do I crunch on hard candy or ice.
That said, I do eat normally, for instance an occasional steak and much
more frequently foods that require vigorous chewing such as raw fruit and
salads.
Is this kind of thing normal?
How long, if at all, do the resident dentists here warranty partials
against breakage in normal use?
[/quote:b552a764e0]
It happens that a flange of a denture may take a beating and break
repeatedly, but it's a bit unusual in my practice in cast frame
partials. Since it's happened twice with different dentists (and
probably different labs), I'd be curious to see if there is anything
unusual in the design that might predispose this area to fracture.
It is considered unethical to make warranties in dentistry. Having
said that if something like this happens I'd try to solve the problem at
minimal cost to the patient--at my judgment. There is no fixed office
policy on this.
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| Tony Sivori... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:38 am |
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Steven Bornfeld wrote:
[quote:23a3774a7c] It happens that a flange of a denture may take a beating and break
repeatedly, but it's a bit unusual in my practice in cast frame
partials. Since it's happened twice with different dentists (and
probably different labs), I'd be curious to see if there is anything
unusual in the design that might predispose this area to fracture.
It is considered unethical to make warranties in dentistry. Having
said that if something like this happens I'd try to solve the problem at
minimal cost to the patient--at my judgment. There is no fixed office
policy on this.
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Thanks for the reply.
To clarify, the breakage was the work of one lab. First the molars broke,
and were repaired by a lab through my new dentist. Then the front teeth
broke, meaning every tooth original to the partial broke within two years.
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| Steven Bornfeld... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:01 pm |
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Tony Sivori wrote:
[quote:c53ca6b806]Steven Bornfeld wrote:
It happens that a flange of a denture may take a beating and break
repeatedly, but it's a bit unusual in my practice in cast frame
partials. Since it's happened twice with different dentists (and
probably different labs), I'd be curious to see if there is anything
unusual in the design that might predispose this area to fracture.
It is considered unethical to make warranties in dentistry. Having
said that if something like this happens I'd try to solve the problem at
minimal cost to the patient--at my judgment. There is no fixed office
policy on this.
Thanks for the reply.
To clarify, the breakage was the work of one lab. First the molars broke,
and were repaired by a lab through my new dentist. Then the front teeth
broke, meaning every tooth original to the partial broke within two years.
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Sorry, but this is a situation where it is tough to assign blame. It
could of course be the lab, or the patient may clench in a way that it's
very tough to keep a partial together. I will say that this is not
common in my office, but it has happened. Of course, you may just be
unlucky, but if that happened in my office too often with a lab, I'd
definitely change. But there's no way I can tell that it's the lab from
what you've told me.
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| Tony Sivori... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:27 pm |
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Steven Bornfeld wrote:
[quote:a517f47907] Sorry, but this is a situation where it is tough to assign blame. It
could of course be the lab, or the patient may clench in a way that it's
very tough to keep a partial together. I will say that this is not
common in my office, but it has happened. Of course, you may just be
unlucky, but if that happened in my office too often with a lab, I'd
definitely change. But there's no way I can tell that it's the lab from
what you've told me.
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An update.
I just got back from the Dentist. She also said it was odd for a partial
to fail in only two years. Then I opened my mouth, and she said the cause
was clear.
I have an overbite, and the way my lower teeth meet up with the partial
make it "challenging". So the repaired denture might not last much (or
any) longer than the original.
On the bright side, I got out for less money than expected. Only $125 out
of pocket for an overnight repair.
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| Dartos... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:40 pm |
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Certainly vertical dimension can influence the thickness and
strength of the acrylic. Thin plastic is going to fracture
faster than thicker.
I don't know this to be the case, but sometimes patients wear
their partials to bed. If the patient is clenching during
different stages of sleep, the damage to the partials can be
happening then.
Of course, clenching during the day can have an effect as well.
Assembly line workers, construction, heavy equipment operators,
truck drivers, and farmers all seem to be hard on teeth.
D
Steven Bornfeld wrote:
[quote:9b18a4155c]Tony Sivori wrote:
I have an upper partial with a metal base that is two years old this
month.
It replaces the four front teeth and three molars. At about the one year
mark, all three molars broke off. I had those replaced (at a different
dentist) four months ago.
Now all four front teeth broke off last night. I had to take an unexcused
absence today from my work to get it dropped off for repair.
I don't eat extremely hard food, nor do I crunch on hard candy or ice.
That said, I do eat normally, for instance an occasional steak and much
more frequently foods that require vigorous chewing such as raw fruit and
salads.
Is this kind of thing normal?
How long, if at all, do the resident dentists here warranty partials
against breakage in normal use?
It happens that a flange of a denture may take a beating and break
repeatedly, but it's a bit unusual in my practice in cast frame
partials. Since it's happened twice with different dentists (and
probably different labs), I'd be curious to see if there is anything
unusual in the design that might predispose this area to fracture.
It is considered unethical to make warranties in dentistry. Having
said that if something like this happens I'd try to solve the problem at
minimal cost to the patient--at my judgment. There is no fixed office
policy on this.
Steve[/quote:9b18a4155c] |
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| Tony Sivori... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:12 am |
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Dartos wrote:
[quote:af23f55665]Certainly vertical dimension can influence the thickness and strength of
the acrylic. Thin plastic is going to fracture faster than thicker.
I don't know this to be the case, but sometimes patients wear their
partials to bed. If the patient is clenching during different stages of
sleep, the damage to the partials can be happening then.
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My teeth are like the stars. they come out at night.
[quote:af23f55665]Of course, clenching during the day can have an effect as well. Assembly
line workers, construction, heavy equipment operators, truck drivers,
and farmers all seem to be hard on teeth.
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Bingo. I often find myself clinching my teeth in stressful situations.
Honestly though, I don't think I'm biting down harder than when I'm
eating.
I'm not a supervisor, but I run a high speed production line. I'm expected
to keep myself and three other men busy, busy, busy. My own goal is to
keep production higher than the other two shifts.
Meeting short term goals, and dealing with short term problems can be
stressful and is a frequent occurrence.
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