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| Edmond Wollmann... |
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Your client continues to post off topic and in violation of this charter
only to defame, harass and denigrate me and my companies. Please take
action.
Thanks
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In article <4ACA7F9E.4C70 at (no spam) earthlink.net>
Edmond Wollmann <arcturianone at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
[quote:84e09d95d3]
For anyone thinking of testing astrology;
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Don't bother, because it's bullshit designed to separate rubes from
their money.
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| Anonymous Remailer... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:22 pm |
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In article <4ACB7B76.2EBC at (no spam) earthlink.net>
Edmond Wollmann <arcturianone at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
[quote:071f41d0a6]
Your client continues to post
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| EHWollmann... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:36 pm |
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On Oct 8, 12:33 pm, "A B" <a at (no spam) a> wrote:
[quote:f0d070d49c]"Edmond Wollmann" <arcturian... at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4ACA7F9E.4C70 at (no spam) earthlink.net...> For anyone thinking of testing astrology;
It would be very instructive in this regard to know just what you
believe astrology to be first. Also..
Since theories determine what we observe;
1) What is your motive for the test?
2) What are your qualifications to do research?
3) Will you be able to operationalize the issues before testing?
4) What are your astrological qualifications?
5) Where will the results be published?
<snip
I didn't know what operationalize meant. On the assumption that some other
people won't either, here's Wiktionary's defintion.
"1. (transitive) To make operational.
2. (transitive, social sciences) To define an abstract concept in such a
way that it can be practically measured.
"I don't see how you're going to operationalize "silliness" in the
survey you're designing." 1956, Ernest Greenwood, "New Directions in
Delinquency Research: A Commentary on a Study by Bernard Lander," Social
Service Review, vol. 30, no. 2, p. 152
To operationalize a concept is to identify those variables in terms of which
the phenomenon represented by the concept can be accurately observed."
Always an important point in any study of something as hard to pin down as
psychology. Of course, if you're testing an astrological theory about
something other than psychology (such as earthquakes  ) then it's easier.
But you always have to bear it in mind.
A. B.
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Right, but the point I am making in this post is that the spinics try
to DEFINE what astrology is and make a straw man and then knock it
down. You must operationalize any variable before you can test it, and
why astrologers fail to prove astrology is because of HOW they
operationalize it. They try to do cookbook delineations and then test
them, but that is not what a real astrologer does in their practice.
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
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| A B... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:33 pm |
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"Edmond Wollmann" <arcturianone at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4ACA7F9E.4C70 at (no spam) earthlink.net...
[quote:473251ca0d]For anyone thinking of testing astrology;
It would be very instructive in this regard to know just what you
believe astrology to be first. Also..
Since theories determine what we observe;
1) What is your motive for the test?
2) What are your qualifications to do research?
3) Will you be able to operationalize the issues before testing?
4) What are your astrological qualifications?
5) Where will the results be published?
snip[/quote:473251ca0d]
I didn't know what operationalize meant. On the assumption that some other
people won't either, here's Wiktionary's defintion.
"1. (transitive) To make operational.
2. (transitive, social sciences) To define an abstract concept in such a
way that it can be practically measured.
"I don't see how you're going to operationalize "silliness" in the
survey you're designing." 1956, Ernest Greenwood, "New Directions in
Delinquency Research: A Commentary on a Study by Bernard Lander," Social
Service Review, vol. 30, no. 2, p. 152
To operationalize a concept is to identify those variables in terms of which
the phenomenon represented by the concept can be accurately observed."
Always an important point in any study of something as hard to pin down as
psychology. Of course, if you're testing an astrological theory about
something other than psychology (such as earthquakes ) then it's easier.
But you always have to bear it in mind.
A. B. |
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| Nomen Nescio... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:46 pm |
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In article <537f1634-f9aa-4e21-a400-bf721b0b68d2 at (no spam) d23g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>
EHWollmann <arcturianone at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
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Right, but the point I am making in this post is that the spinics
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Use of moronic made up word by defeated kook noted.
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| Bob Officer... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:32 pm |
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On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:22:06 -0700, in alt.astrology, Edmond Wollmann
<arcturianone at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
[quote:517c6a6535]For anyone thinking of testing astrology;
[/quote:517c6a6535]
Don't waste your time.
Carlson Did it in 1985,
Showed there is no evidence,
to back up the belief of astrology.
Astrology lacks providence
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| Cujo DeSockpuppet... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 8:40 am |
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"A B" <a at (no spam) a> wrote in news:4ad0c566$0$2489$db0fefd9 at (no spam) news.zen.co.uk:
[quote:610bda1d27]
"Bob Officer" <bobofficers at (no spam) 127.0.0.7> wrote on 10th October:
On Mon, 05 Oct 2009, in alt.astrology, Edmond Wollmann wrote:
For anyone thinking of testing astrology;
Don't waste your time.
Carlson Did it in 1985,
Showed there is no evidence,
to back up the belief of astrology.
Astrology lacks providence
GREAT, finally a specific study. I can look that up now.
By the way, when you say "providence" do you mean "evidence"?
[/quote:610bda1d27]
I believe he meant "provenance".
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| A B... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:33 am |
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"Bob Officer" <bobofficers at (no spam) 127.0.0.7> wrote on 10th October:
[quote:8e1c3bbf27]On Mon, 05 Oct 2009, in alt.astrology, Edmond Wollmann wrote:
For anyone thinking of testing astrology;
Don't waste your time.
Carlson Did it in 1985,
Showed there is no evidence,
to back up the belief of astrology.
Astrology lacks providence
[/quote:8e1c3bbf27]
GREAT, finally a specific study. I can look that up now.
By the way, when you say "providence" do you mean "evidence"?
A. B. |
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| Bob Officer... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:24 pm |
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On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:33:26 +0100, in alt.astrology, "A B" <a at (no spam) a>
wrote:
[quote:787351d124]
"Bob Officer" <bobofficers at (no spam) 127.0.0.7> wrote on 10th October:
On Mon, 05 Oct 2009, in alt.astrology, Edmond Wollmann wrote:
For anyone thinking of testing astrology;
Don't waste your time.
Carlson Did it in 1985,
Showed there is no evidence,
to back up the belief of astrology.
Astrology lacks providence
GREAT, finally a specific study. I can look that up now.
By the way, when you say "providence" do you mean "evidence"?
A. B.
[/quote:787351d124]
No, I mean providence.
http://skeptico.blogs.com/skeptico/2008/12/astrologys-lack-of-provenance.html
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| Bob Officer... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:26 pm |
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On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:40:12 +0000 (UTC), in alt.astrology, Cujo
DeSockpuppet <cujo at (no spam) petitmorte.net> wrote:
[quote:b75e3adcfe]"A B" <a at (no spam) a> wrote in news:4ad0c566$0$2489$db0fefd9 at (no spam) news.zen.co.uk:
"Bob Officer" <bobofficers at (no spam) 127.0.0.7> wrote on 10th October:
On Mon, 05 Oct 2009, in alt.astrology, Edmond Wollmann wrote:
For anyone thinking of testing astrology;
Don't waste your time.
Carlson Did it in 1985,
Showed there is no evidence,
to back up the belief of astrology.
Astrology lacks providence
GREAT, finally a specific study. I can look that up now.
By the way, when you say "providence" do you mean "evidence"?
I believe he meant "provenance".
[/quote:b75e3adcfe]
I think your correct.
See what happens when you end up baby-sitting your children's cat.
Every time I sit down to type, she get up and tries to help. Worse
than any child.
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