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| Timothy Sutter... |
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[quote:6efeca8396]so, we could speculate and say 280 years
but, i'd have to, probably, use brute force
and awkwardness to find out for sure.
in some form...
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on a lighter note, highbrow people
believed a monstrous speculation
because they 'pecked' themselves
in to submission in a manner that
should be discouraged when found
in children but seems to be
encouraged in full grown adults. |
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| Timothy Sutter... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:32 am |
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[quote:7fc5492f7c]on a lighter note, highbrow people
believed a monstrous speculation
because they 'pecked' themselves
in to submission in a manner that
should be discouraged when found
in children but seems to be
encouraged in full grown adults.
[/quote:7fc5492f7c]
as you should realize
the idea of one contiguous
breeding population is
pure speculation. |
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| Timothy Sutter... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:38 pm |
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13 28 day 'sabbath months'
for six years, and in the seventh year
12 28 day 'sabbath months' and 1
35 day 'sabbath month'
6552 + 742 = 7294
7665 8029
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 13 x 28 = 364
8 9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21 6 years
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 12 x 28 = 336
8 9 10 11 12 13 14 + 35 = 371
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28 7th year
29 30 31 32 33 34 35
this keeps the alignment -close-
at 2555 days where the solar year,
is now at, 2556.75 days, or 99.99% alignment
so, after four of these 7 year periods,
or 28 years, we have;
28 x 2365.25 = 10227
4 x 2555 = 10220
and so, we add one more week,
and get alignment with the 'solar' year
while maintaining a =fixed= 'Sabbath'
===========28th year=================
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 11 x 28 = 308
8 9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21 + 35 = 343
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 30 31 32 33 34 35
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21 + 35 = 378
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 30 31 32 33 34 35
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4[(364 x 6) + (364 + 7)] + 7 = 10227
28 x 365.25 = 10227
so, the seven day sabbath calendar runs
at four 7 day weeks, at =12= 28 day 'months'
and 0ne 35 day month, for 27 years
and in the 28th year, there are
11 28 day months and -2- 35 day months.
now, the one thing that will align
the two 'grid' patterns
is, at least, at 280 years.
at 280 years,
10 28 year Sabbath cycles
align with
7 40 year Loonysolar cycles
at 102270 days.
so, there is an alignment at
this point, every 280 years,
INT = 'integer value'
7[INT(x/7) + INT(x/2 ] - 5INT(x/20)] = x
years of sabbattical and lunisolar intersection;
0 - 7 - 30 - 37 - 85 - 92 - 99 - 115 - 140 - 147 - 154 - 225 - 232 - 255
- 280
7 - 23 - 7 - 48 - 7 - 7 - 16 - 25 - 7 - 7 - 71 - 7 - 23 -
25 'gap segments'
7 - 23 - 7 - 48 - 7 - 7 - 16 - 25 - 7 - 7 - 71 - 7 - 23 -
25
7 - 23 - 7 - 48 - 7 - 7 - 16 - 25 - 7 - 7 - 71 - 7 - 23 -
25
after 280 years, the cyle repeats...
JFMAJJASON December
M 2 3 4 5 M 2 3 4 5
6 7 Q 9 10 6 7 Q 9 10
11 12 13 14 15 11 12 13 14 15
N 17 18 19 20 N 17 18 19 20
21 22 Q 24 25 21 22 Q 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 26 27 28 29 30
M 32 33 34 35 |
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| Timothy Sutter... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:42 pm |
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INT = 'integer value'
7[INT(x/7) + INT(x/2] - 5INT(x/20)] = x
years of sabbattical and lunisolar intersection;
0-7-30-37-85-92-99-115-140-147-154-225-232-255-280
7-23-7-48-7-7-16-25-7-7-71-7-23-25
'gap segments' |
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| Timothy Sutter... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:46 pm |
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[quote:8cc0020134]INT = 'integer value'
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7[INT(x/7) + INT(x/2] - 5INT(x/20)] = x
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years of sabbattical and lunisolar intersection;
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0-7-30-37-85-92-99-115-140-147-154-225-232-255-280
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7-23-7-48-7-7-16-25-7-7-71-7-23-25
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'gap segments'
[/quote:8cc0020134]
the sabbattical calendar is 7 day weeks
and the lunisolar cal;endar is 5 day weeks
they both correspond to teh "solar year"
and, they intersect with each other
at the above intervals. |
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| Timothy Sutter... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:03 pm |
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[quote:c473bf670a]INT = 'integer value'
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7[INT(x/7) + INT(x/2] - 5INT(x/20)] = x
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years of sabbattical and lunisolar intersection;
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0-7-30-37-85-92-99-115-140-147-154-225-232-255-280
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7-23-7-48-7-7-16-25-7-7-71-7-23-25
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'gap segments'
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i left 14 out.
14 intersects as well.
0-7-14-30-37-85-92-99-115-140-147-154-225-232-255-280
makes the gaps...
7-7-16-7-48-7-7-16-25-7-7-71-7-23-25
[quote:c473bf670a]the sabbattical calendar is 7 day weeks
and the lunisolar cal;endar is 5 day weeks
they both correspond to teh "solar year"
and, they intersect with each other
at the above intervals.[/quote:c473bf670a] |
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| Timothy Sutter... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:08 pm |
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[quote:89d5bf35b1]INT = 'integer value'
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7[INT(x/7) + INT(x/2] - 5INT(x/20)] = x
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years of sabbattical and lunisolar intersection;
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0-7-30-37-85-92-99-115-140-147-154-225-232-255-280
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7-23-7-48-7-7-16-25-7-7-71-7-23-25
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'gap segments'
i left 14 out.
14 intersects as well.
0-7-14-30-37-85-92-99-115-140-147-154-225-232-255-280
makes the gaps...
7-7-16-7-48-7-7-16-25-7-7-71-7-23-25
[/quote:89d5bf35b1]
it's the 'leap weeks' and the keeping
pace with the solar year that makes for
the odd relationship
[quote:89d5bf35b1]the sabbattical calendar is 7 day weeks
and the lunisolar cal;endar is 5 day weeks
they both correspond to teh "solar year"
and, they intersect with each other
at the above intervals.[/quote:89d5bf35b1] |
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| Timothy Sutter... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:33 am |
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days in years of seven day weeks;
x = # of years
y = multiples 7
z = multiples of 28
x(13 x 2 + 7(y + z)
days in years of five day weeks;
x = # of years
a = multiples of 20
x365 + 5a
now, if you set those 2 relationships as equal...
x364 + 7(y + z) = x365 + 5a <---
regroup for x
365x - 364x = 7y + 7z -5a
7y + 7z - 5a = x
and with some trickery, you get this;
7[INT(x/7) + INT(x/2] - 5INT(x/20)] = x
where INT denotes the 'integer value'
or the -multiples- of 7, 28, and 20
for any given 'year' which is denoted by "x"
so, for instance, =37=
is a =5= multiple of 7
and a =1= multiple of 28
and a =1= mulitiple of 20
to make a long story short,
when the left hand side and the right
hand side are the same number,
the lunisolar and the
sabbatisolar years align
this table gives the general progression,
and shows where both the lunisolar and
the sabbatisolar years correspond with
the "solar year" in days, and with each other.
i cut out many years in which there
is no correlation at allfor brevity
[fixed text]
LS = lunisolar days
Sabsol = sabbatisolar days
one may note that they are all in corerespondence
at 140 years and 280 years
year| solar days LS days SabSol day solar days
1 365.25 365 364 365.25
2 730.5 730 728 730.5
3 1095.75 1095 1092 1095.75
4 1461 1460 1456 1461
5 1826.25 1825 1820 1826.25
6 2191.5 2190 2184 2191.5
7 2556.75 2555 = 2555 2556.75
8 2922 2920 2919 2922
9 3287.25 3285 3283 3287.25
10 3652.5 3650 3647 3652.5
11 4017.75 4015 4011 4017.75
12 4383 4380 4375 4383
13 4748.25 4745 4739 4748.25
14 5113.5 5110 = 5110 5113.5
15 5475 5474
16 5840 5838
17 6205 6202
18 6570 6566
19 6935 6930
20 7305 = 7305 7294 7305
21 7670 7665
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27 9860 9849
28 10225 10227 = 10227
29 10590 10591
30 10955 = 10955
31 11320 11319
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36 13145 13146
37 13510 = 13510
38 13875 13874
39 14240 14238
40 14610 = 14610 14602 14610
41 14975 14966
<...>
55 20085 20076
56 20450 20454 = 20454
57 20815 20818
58 21180 21182
59 21545 21546
60 21915 = 21915 21910
61 22280 22274
62
63
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79
80 29220 = 29220
81
82
83
84 30681 = 30681
85 31045 = 31045
86
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91
92 33600 = 33600
93
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100 36525 = 36525 36525
112 40908 = 40908
115 42000 = 42000
120 43830 43830
140 51135 = 51135 = 51135 = 51135
147 53690 = 53690
154 56245 = 56245
160 58440 = 58440 58440
168 61362 = 61362
180 65745 = 65745 65745
196 71589 = 71589
200 73050 = 73050 73050
220 80355 = 80355 80355
224 81816 = 81816
225 82180 = 82180
232 84735 = 84735
240 87660 = 87660 87660
252 92043 = 92043
255 93135 = 93135
260 94965 = 94965 94965
280 102270 = 102270 = 102270 = 102270
oddly enough, it is a calendar system
and not just a bunch of numbers...
it shows how the sun and the moon
and the seven day week correlate
[quote:47818e9fb1]INT = 'integer value'
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7[INT(x/7) + INT(x/2] - 5INT(x/20)] = x
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years of sabbattical and lunisolar intersection;
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0-7-30-37-85-92-99-115-140-147-154-225-232-255-280
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7-23-7-48-7-7-16-25-7-7-71-7-23-25
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'gap segments'
i left 14 out.
14 intersects as well.
0-7-14-30-37-85-92-99-115-140-147-154-225-232-255-280
makes the gaps...
7-7-16-7-48-7-7-16-25-7-7-71-7-23-25
it's the 'leap weeks' and the keeping
pace with the solar year that makes for
the odd relationship
the sabbattical calendar is 7 day weeks
and the lunisolar cal;endar is 5 day weeks
they both correspond to teh "solar year"
and, they intersect with each other
at the above intervals.[/quote:47818e9fb1] |
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| Timothy Sutter... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:37 am |
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[quote:fae52c0804]days in years of seven day weeks;
x = # of years
y = multiples 7
z = multiples of 28
x(364) + 7(y + z)
days in years of five day weeks;
x = # of years
a = multiples of 20
x365 + 5a
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of course, the days in a solar year
are 365.25 times the number of years... |
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| Timothy Sutter... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:17 am |
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[quote:6fb16c7ff5]days in years of seven day weeks;
x = # of years
y = multiples 7
z = multiples of 28
x(364) + 7(y + z)
days in years of five day weeks;
x = # of years
a = multiples of 20
x365 + 5a
of course, the days in a solar year
are 365.25 times the number of years...
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oh, it still doesn't look as if the 7 day week
has any sort of relevant derivation from
any "natural" time sequence. |
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| Timothy Sutter... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 8:48 pm |
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[quote:7ad41e749f]which is to say that,
a five day week corresponds directly with the moon
where the Full Moon and the New Moon fall consistently
on the first day of the week, Moonday, and a seven day
week fits corresponds directly with nothing at all,
or with YHWH's Sabbaths if that is 'something' to anyone.
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today is Moonday
i don't need a piece of paper to tell me that.
all i gotta do is look up in the sky
and there it is |
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| Timothy Sutter... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 8:53 pm |
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[quote:3e5413d164]which is to say that,
a five day week corresponds directly with the moon
where the Full Moon and the New Moon fall consistently
on the first day of the week, Moonday, and a seven day
week fits corresponds directly with nothing at all,
or with YHWH's Sabbaths if that is 'something' to anyone.
today is Moonday
i don't need a piece of paper to tell me that.
all i gotta do is look up in the sky
and there it is
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also, one of the rare occasions when, apparently,
it's also the seventh day of that 'other' week. |
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| Timothy Sutter... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:35 pm |
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[quote:2120b9a858]but, belaboring the obvious is sometimes my thing.
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i haven't quite come to that point where i shut my mouth
forever and never say another word, but, when i do
i'll be sure not to tell you. |
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