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Spirit of Truth...
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:35 pm
Guest
I stated this much earlier but in a different form.

It is now time for SRians to answer up to this situation.

I am keeping it simple so you SR'ians who do understand SR
and MMX please use your full understanding to dub in the
scientific expressions that will allow you to confront this
situation and answer with your solution if, of course,
you have one.

In MMX, the LT only allows the gap closure in the direction
of motion to be travelled in the same time as the hypotenuse
gap closure. Whereas in that local frame, the time calculated
for the return time per Relativy (That frame at rest!) would
simply be the time taken in that local system for light to
travel the actual length of the arms of the experimental
device.

The times of both the above are not the same. In the
experiment the measurement would be the actual
time of the local frame, THUS the LT as a proposal
would of only answered an exterior observation
of the local experiment that exterior observer seeing the local
frame in motion! But this is NOT the local observation and
the local observation would only see the time past of the
light travelling along the arms in that local frame....a
non-moving system!

Conclusion? Unless you can explain this away, _SR_ has
a serious problem with the LT.


Spirit of Truth
 
Spirit of Truth...
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:44 am
Guest
"doug" <xx at (no spam) xx.com> wrote in message
news:s82dnatcGbONa9PXnZ2dnUVZ_sVi4p2d at (no spam) posted.docknet...

[quote:f3ff0e5a48]

Spirit of Truth wrote:

I stated this much earlier but in a different form.

It is now time for SRians to answer up to this situation.

I am keeping it simple so you SR'ians who do understand SR
and MMX please use your full understanding to dub in the
scientific expressions that will allow you to confront this
situation and answer with your solution if, of course,
you have one.

In MMX, the LT only allows the gap closure in the direction
of motion to be travelled in the same time as the hypotenuse
gap closure. Whereas in that local frame, the time calculated
for the return time per Relativy (That frame at rest!) would
simply be the time taken in that local system for light to
travel the actual length of the arms of the experimental
device.

The times of both the above are not the same. In the
experiment the measurement would be the actual
time of the local frame, THUS the LT as a proposal
would of only answered an exterior observation
of the local experiment that exterior observer seeing the local
frame in motion! But this is NOT the local observation and
the local observation would only see the time past of the
light travelling along the arms in that local frame....a
non-moving system!

Conclusion? Unless you can explain this away, _SR_ has
a serious problem with the LT.

SR has no problem. You have a problem with english and
with comprehension. That is not our problem.


Spirit of Truth
[/quote:f3ff0e5a48]
Doug, time for you to grow up.

Spirit of Truth
 
doug...
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:28 am
Guest
Spirit of Truth wrote:

[quote:fd9031479a]I stated this much earlier but in a different form.

It is now time for SRians to answer up to this situation.

I am keeping it simple so you SR'ians who do understand SR
and MMX please use your full understanding to dub in the
scientific expressions that will allow you to confront this
situation and answer with your solution if, of course,
you have one.

In MMX, the LT only allows the gap closure in the direction
of motion to be travelled in the same time as the hypotenuse
gap closure. Whereas in that local frame, the time calculated
for the return time per Relativy (That frame at rest!) would
simply be the time taken in that local system for light to
travel the actual length of the arms of the experimental
device.

The times of both the above are not the same. In the
experiment the measurement would be the actual
time of the local frame, THUS the LT as a proposal
would of only answered an exterior observation
of the local experiment that exterior observer seeing the local
frame in motion! But this is NOT the local observation and
the local observation would only see the time past of the
light travelling along the arms in that local frame....a
non-moving system!

Conclusion? Unless you can explain this away, _SR_ has
a serious problem with the LT.
[/quote:fd9031479a]
SR has no problem. You have a problem with english and
with comprehension. That is not our problem.
[quote:fd9031479a]

Spirit of Truth

[/quote:fd9031479a]
 
doug...
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:26 am
Guest
Spirit of Truth wrote:

[quote:d9d2e0577e]"doug" <xx at (no spam) xx.com> wrote in message
news:s82dnatcGbONa9PXnZ2dnUVZ_sVi4p2d at (no spam) posted.docknet...



Spirit of Truth wrote:


I stated this much earlier but in a different form.

It is now time for SRians to answer up to this situation.

I am keeping it simple so you SR'ians who do understand SR
and MMX please use your full understanding to dub in the
scientific expressions that will allow you to confront this
situation and answer with your solution if, of course,
you have one.

In MMX, the LT only allows the gap closure in the direction
of motion to be travelled in the same time as the hypotenuse
gap closure. Whereas in that local frame, the time calculated
for the return time per Relativy (That frame at rest!) would
simply be the time taken in that local system for light to
travel the actual length of the arms of the experimental
device.

The times of both the above are not the same. In the
experiment the measurement would be the actual
time of the local frame, THUS the LT as a proposal
would of only answered an exterior observation
of the local experiment that exterior observer seeing the local
frame in motion! But this is NOT the local observation and
the local observation would only see the time past of the
light travelling along the arms in that local frame....a
non-moving system!

Conclusion? Unless you can explain this away, _SR_ has
a serious problem with the LT.

SR has no problem. You have a problem with english and
with comprehension. That is not our problem.


Spirit of Truth


Doug, time for you to grow up.

Spirit of Truth
[/quote:d9d2e0577e]
Your stupidity and dislike of relativity are not my
problems. You can keep looking like a fool here as
long as you want and anyone can comment on your ignorance.

[quote:d9d2e0577e]
[/quote:d9d2e0577e]
 
Spirit of Truth...
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:53 pm
Guest
"doug" <xx at (no spam) xx.com> wrote in message
news:nPednZEcE5XW6dLXnZ2dnUVZ_jli4p2d at (no spam) posted.docknet...
[quote:2990fe94bb]

Spirit of Truth wrote:

"doug" <xx at (no spam) xx.com> wrote in message
news:s82dnatcGbONa9PXnZ2dnUVZ_sVi4p2d at (no spam) posted.docknet...



Spirit of Truth wrote:


I stated this much earlier but in a different form.

It is now time for SRians to answer up to this situation.

I am keeping it simple so you SR'ians who do understand SR
and MMX please use your full understanding to dub in the
scientific expressions that will allow you to confront this
situation and answer with your solution if, of course,
you have one.

In MMX, the LT only allows the gap closure in the direction
of motion to be travelled in the same time as the hypotenuse
gap closure. Whereas in that local frame, the time calculated
for the return time per Relativy (That frame at rest!) would
simply be the time taken in that local system for light to
travel the actual length of the arms of the experimental
device.

The times of both the above are not the same. In the
experiment the measurement would be the actual
time of the local frame, THUS the LT as a proposal
would of only answered an exterior observation
of the local experiment that exterior observer seeing the local
frame in motion! But this is NOT the local observation and
the local observation would only see the time past of the
light travelling along the arms in that local frame....a
non-moving system!

Conclusion? Unless you can explain this away, _SR_ has
a serious problem with the LT.

SR has no problem. You have a problem with english and
with comprehension. That is not our problem.


Spirit of Truth


Doug, time for you to grow up.

Spirit of Truth

Your stupidity and dislike of relativity are not my
problems. You can keep looking like a fool here as
long as you want and anyone can comment on your ignorance.
[/quote:2990fe94bb]
I told you to grow up. If you have any basic understanding of SR try to
confront the thread.

Spirit of Truth
 
Spirit of Truth...
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 6:06 pm
Guest
"doug" <xx at (no spam) xx.com
[quote:9c7309793e]wrote in message news:S4CdnUCscIk6cNLXnZ2dnUVZ_i1i4p2d at (no spam) posted.docknet...
[/quote:9c7309793e]
*plonk*# for juvenile response.


Spirit of Truth
 
Koobee Wublee...
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:02 pm
Guest
On Jul 4, 8:15 am, Tom Roberts wrote:

[quote:9476b3151d]In order to challenge SR, you must learn what it ACTUALLY says, and what
it predicts for various experiments.
[/quote:9476b3151d]
Yes, it is fair enough. After studying SR, relative simultaneity is a
direct manifestation of the Lorentz transform. This means the twins
paradox. This means any communication satellites and any
interferometers cannot have worked. The only scientific method is
thus to reject the Lorentz transform instead of creating a religion
covering up the nonsense of relative simultaneity. The real world
only satisfies absolute simultaneity. <shrug>

[quote:9476b3151d]Your mistakes and delusions are NOT relativity.
[/quote:9476b3151d]
You need to understand what relative simultaneity really means in
accordance with the Lorentz transform. <shrug>

[quote:9476b3151d]In SR, the standard Cartesian coordinates of inertial frames are related
by the Lorentz transform. This has the property that any object [#]
moving with speed c in any direction in one inertial frame moves with
speed c in every other inertial frame. This applies to SPEED -- in other
inertial frames the direction can differ, but the speed does not.
[/quote:9476b3151d]
This is also true under the Voigt transform. <shrug>

[quote:9476b3151d]For the MMX, the application...
[/quote:9476b3151d]
The interferometer used in the MMX falsifies any conjecture predicting
the world behaves in relative simultaneity. Thus, the MMX actually
falsifies the Lorentz transform. <shrug>

You need to really understand instead of worshipping the Lorentz
transform. <shrug>
 
doug...
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:03 pm
Guest
Spirit of Truth wrote:

[quote:6d3b916d9b]"doug" <xx at (no spam) xx.com> wrote in message
news:nPednZEcE5XW6dLXnZ2dnUVZ_jli4p2d at (no spam) posted.docknet...


Spirit of Truth wrote:


"doug" <xx at (no spam) xx.com> wrote in message
news:s82dnatcGbONa9PXnZ2dnUVZ_sVi4p2d at (no spam) posted.docknet...



Spirit of Truth wrote:



I stated this much earlier but in a different form.

It is now time for SRians to answer up to this situation.

I am keeping it simple so you SR'ians who do understand SR
and MMX please use your full understanding to dub in the
scientific expressions that will allow you to confront this
situation and answer with your solution if, of course,
you have one.

In MMX, the LT only allows the gap closure in the direction
of motion to be travelled in the same time as the hypotenuse
gap closure. Whereas in that local frame, the time calculated
for the return time per Relativy (That frame at rest!) would
simply be the time taken in that local system for light to
travel the actual length of the arms of the experimental
device.

The times of both the above are not the same. In the
experiment the measurement would be the actual
time of the local frame, THUS the LT as a proposal
would of only answered an exterior observation
of the local experiment that exterior observer seeing the local
frame in motion! But this is NOT the local observation and
the local observation would only see the time past of the
light travelling along the arms in that local frame....a
non-moving system!

Conclusion? Unless you can explain this away, _SR_ has
a serious problem with the LT.

SR has no problem. You have a problem with english and
with comprehension. That is not our problem.


Spirit of Truth


Doug, time for you to grow up.

Spirit of Truth

Your stupidity and dislike of relativity are not my
problems. You can keep looking like a fool here as
long as you want and anyone can comment on your ignorance.


I told you to grow up. If you have any basic understanding of SR try to
confront the thread.

Spirit of Truth
[/quote:6d3b916d9b]
The problem is that you have no understanding of SR. You saying stupid
things like claiming SR has problems with the LT shows the depth
of your ignorance. You have the choice of remaining ignorant but
doing so willingly makes you stupid as well.

[quote:6d3b916d9b]
[/quote:6d3b916d9b]
 
MeAmI.org...
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:35 pm
Guest
Mmm wrote:
Koobee Wublee wrote:
[quote:9c69157480]On Jul 4, 8:15 am, Tom Roberts wrote:

In order to challenge SR, you must learn what it ACTUALLY says, and what
it predicts for various experiments.

Yes, it is fair enough. After studying SR, relative simultaneity is a
direct manifestation of the Lorentz transform. This means the twins
paradox. This means any communication satellites and any
interferometers cannot have worked. The only scientific method is
thus to reject the Lorentz transform instead of creating a religion
covering up the nonsense of relative simultaneity. The real world
only satisfies absolute simultaneity. <shrug

Your mistakes and delusions are NOT relativity.

You need to understand what relative simultaneity really means in
accordance with the Lorentz transform. <shrug

In SR, the standard Cartesian coordinates of inertial frames are related
by the Lorentz transform. This has the property that any object [#]
moving with speed c in any direction in one inertial frame moves with
speed c in every other inertial frame. This applies to SPEED -- in other
inertial frames the direction can differ, but the speed does not.

This is also true under the Voigt transform. <shrug

For the MMX, the application...

The interferometer used in the MMX falsifies any conjecture predicting
the world behaves in relative simultaneity. Thus, the MMX actually
falsifies the Lorentz transform. <shrug

You need to really understand instead of worshipping the Lorentz
transform. <shrug
Math Forum Discussionspredecessor of the MMX and concluded with the[/quote:9c69157480]
Voigt transform which ... You need to get some REAL physics books and
[quote:9c69157480]study them. ... Peter only did not recognize Christ three times.
How many times ... <shrug> Koobee-You get so confused by words and[/quote:9c69157480]
your perceived history. The physics and math work! ...http://
mathforum.org/kb/message.jspa%3FmessageID%3D6763375%26tstart%3D0
 
Spirit of Truth...
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:32 am
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"MeAmI.org" <MeAmI at (no spam) vzw.blackberry.net> wrote in message
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Mmm wrote:
Koobee Wublee wrote:
[quote:414914c8d7]On Jul 4, 8:15 am, Tom Roberts wrote:

In order to challenge SR, you must learn what it ACTUALLY says, and what
it predicts for various experiments.

Yes, it is fair enough. After studying SR, relative simultaneity is a
direct manifestation of the Lorentz transform. This means the twins
paradox. This means any communication satellites and any
interferometers cannot have worked. The only scientific method is
thus to reject the Lorentz transform instead of creating a religion
covering up the nonsense of relative simultaneity. The real world
only satisfies absolute simultaneity. <shrug

Your mistakes and delusions are NOT relativity.

You need to understand what relative simultaneity really means in
accordance with the Lorentz transform. <shrug

In SR, the standard Cartesian coordinates of inertial frames are related
by the Lorentz transform. This has the property that any object [#]
moving with speed c in any direction in one inertial frame moves with
speed c in every other inertial frame. This applies to SPEED -- in other
inertial frames the direction can differ, but the speed does not.

This is also true under the Voigt transform. <shrug

For the MMX, the application...

The interferometer used in the MMX falsifies any conjecture predicting
the world behaves in relative simultaneity. Thus, the MMX actually
falsifies the Lorentz transform. <shrug

You need to really understand instead of worshipping the Lorentz
transform. <shrug
Math Forum Discussionspredecessor of the MMX and concluded with the[/quote:414914c8d7]
Voigt transform which ... You need to get some REAL physics books and
[quote:414914c8d7]study them. ... Peter only did not recognize Christ three times.
How many times ... <shrug> Koobee-You get so confused by words and[/quote:414914c8d7]
your perceived history. The physics and math work! ...http://
mathforum.org/kb/message.jspa%3FmessageID%3D6763375%26tstart%3D0


Lack of simultaneity is nonsense. Look at these links:


Andromeda paradox in here:


http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special_Relativity/Simultaneity%2C_time_dilation_and_length_contraction

Captain Kirk in here:

http://phyun5.ucr.edu/~wudka/Physics7/Notes_www/node77.html


Spirit of Truth
 
Eric Gisse...
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:41 am
Guest
On Jul 4, 9:02pm, Koobee Wublee <koobee.wub... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[...]

[quote:1e55f00e34]You need to really understand instead of worshipping the Lorentz
transform. <shrug
[/quote:1e55f00e34]
So where did you learn to understand?
 
Mike...
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:56 am
Guest
On Jul 5, 1:41pm, Eric Gisse <jowr... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:c3654795b3]On Jul 4, 9:02pm, Koobee Wublee <koobee.wub... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[...]

You need to really understand instead of worshipping the Lorentz
transform. <shrug

So where did you learn to understand?
[/quote:c3654795b3]
When he got his Ph.D little crank. He knows you believe that the
Newtonian gravity equation is an Euler ODE and his is laughing hard
now:

Eric Gisse about the Newtonian gravity equation solution: " Your
problem bores me - walking to the toilet and peeing takes longer, and
required the same amount of mental horsepower. If I look over to my
right, I can see several books that have the Euler equation solved."

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/dd24a9cdf16c4daf?hl=en

hahahahahahahahahaha
 
Tom Roberts...
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:12 am
Guest
Koobee Wublee wrote:
[quote:a31141a3ea]relative simultaneity is a
direct manifestation of the Lorentz transform.
[/quote:a31141a3ea]
Yes.


[quote:a31141a3ea]This means the twins
paradox.
[/quote:a31141a3ea]
Yes. Note that in the world we inhabit the twin's "paradox" DOES OCCUR.
So any theory (or personal prejudice like yours) that lacks it is WRONG.

Bailey et al., Measurements of relativistic time dilation for positive
and negative muons in a circular orbit, Nature 268 (July 28, 1977) pg
301. Bailey et al., Nuclear Physics B 150 pg 179 (1979). They stored
muons in a storage ring and measured their lifetime. When combined with
measurements of the muon lifetime at rest this becomes a highly
relativistic twin scenario (v ~0.9994 c), for which the stored muons are
the traveling twin and return to a given point in the lab every few
microseconds.

C. Alley, Proper Time Experiments in Gravitational Fields with Atomic
Clocks, Aircraft, and Laser Light Pulses, in Quantum Optics,
Experimental Gravity, and Measurement Theory, eds. Pierre Meystre and
Marlan O. Scully, Proceedings Conf. Bad Windsheim 1981, 1983 Plenum
Press New York, ISBN 0-306-41354-X, pg 363427. They flew atomic clocks
in airplanes that remained localized over Chesapeake Bay, and also which
flew to Greenland and back.

Hafele and Keating, Nature 227 (1970), pg 270 (proposal). Science Vol.
177 pg 166170 (1972) (experiment). They flew atomic clocks on
commercial airliners around the world in both directions, and compared
the time elapsed on the airborne clocks with the time elapsed on an
earthbound clock (USNO). Their eastbound clock lost 59 ns on the USNO
clock; their westbound clock gained 273 ns; these agree with GR
predictions to well within their experimental resolution and
uncertainties (which total about 25 ns). By using four cesium-beam
atomic clocks they greatly reduced their systematic errors due to clock
drift.


It is even possible for a guy with an interest in accurate timekeeping
to display the variation in clocks rates on a family vacation:
http://www.leapsecond.com/great2005/index.htm


[quote:a31141a3ea]This means any communication satellites and any
interferometers cannot have worked.
[/quote:a31141a3ea]
That is simply not true. But they do work somewhat differently than your
personal prejudice says.

This, of course, includes the GPS, which is a MUCH better test of the
variation in clock rates.
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments.html#GPS

NONE of the experiments referenced above actually test
simultaneity or lack thereof, they measure variations in
clock rates. But if clock rates vary, and simultaneity is
defined by synchronized clocks, then simultaneity must
vary too. Variation with altitude is predicted by GR, not
SR, but it also refutes "absolute simultaneity".


Please note that the only practical way humans can establish
simultaneity over a region of space and time is by using multiple
synchronized clocks (e.g. UTC, GPS time). In particular, your personal
notion of what "now" means in a distant part of the universe is just
that -- a figment of your imagination; that is not science.


[quote:a31141a3ea]The real world
only satisfies absolute simultaneity.
[/quote:a31141a3ea]
Your ASSERTIONS and PERSONAL PREJUDICES are not science.


Spirit of Truth wrote:
[quote:a31141a3ea]Lack of simultaneity is nonsense.
[/quote:a31141a3ea]
No, it is not. It's just that it is different from your personal
prejudice. The world does not care what you or Koobee have concocted in
your minds. Real experiments show that both of your personal prejudices
are WRONG.


Tom Roberts
 
MeAmI.org...
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:02 am
Guest
MeAmI.org wrote:
Mike wrote:
[quote:7f78aae080]On Jul 5, 1:41 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 4, 9:02 pm, Koobee Wublee <koobee.wub... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[...]

You need to really understand instead of worshipping the Lorentz
transform.  <shrug

So where did you learn to understand?

When he got his Ph.D little crank. He knows you believe that the
Newtonian gravity equation is an Euler ODE and his is laughing hard
now:

Eric Gisse about the Newtonian gravity equation solution: " Your
problem bores me - walking to the toilet and peeing takes longer, and
required the same amount of mental horsepower. If I look over to my
right, I can see several books that have the Euler equation solved."

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/dd24a9cdf16c4daf?hl=en

hahahahahahahahahaha
[/quote:7f78aae080]
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Koobee Wublee...
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:34 pm
Guest
It is absolutely impossible trying to convince you that simultaneity
must be absolute without placing myself in your mental environment.
Throughout your life, you have been bombarded with the quantity of
spacetime according to the following equations.

ds^2 = g_ij dq^i dq^j

In doing so, the equation above actually supports absolute environment
and absolute simultaneity. All mathematics based on this equation may
mislead you into believing in relative simultaneity. However, a more
realistic representation of space and time (not spacetime) is the
following totally based on the Lorentz transform --- thus, you cannot
deny its validity. Therefore, you can give the Lorentz transform a
curved metric, and then you will arrive at the following equation.

g_uv dq^u dq^v = g_ij dq^i dq^j

In doing so, the proper time is not the local time. There is nothing
physical tangible about the proper time. Proper time (thus spacetime)
is not reality but a mathematical construct that does not accurately
reflect anything real. <shrug>

Hope this helps.
 
 
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