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| GreenXenon... |
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:42 am |
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Hi:
I have speculative neuroscience question.
Let’s say that the PSTSNs in my body – and the ADFNs supplying them --
don’t have any refractory period or any other protections against
hyper-excitability.
PSTSN = Peripheral Somatic Tactile Sensory Nerve
ADFN = A-Delta-Fiber-Nociceptor
Non-ADFN = Sensory-receptor/nerve-ending that is not an ADFN or the
portion of a nerve that is attached to such a sensory-receptor/nerve-
ending
ADFNPSTSN = A-Delta-Fiber-Nociceptor supplying a PSTSN
PSTSNNon-ADFN = A non-ADFN supplying a PSTSN
Tactile = Pertaining only to sense of touch [including temperature,
pressure, pain, tickle, vibrations, movement, etc.]. *Not* including
any visual, auditory, gustatory, olfactory perceptions or any
sensations associated with the sense of balance.
Peripheral = pertaining only to the peripheral nervous system and not
the central nervous system.
Somatic = pertaining only to the somatic nervous system and not the
visceral, autonomic, or enteric nervous systems
Let’s say a mysterious entity decides to stimulate all the ADFNPSTSNs
in my body to the maximum extent possible [in terms of extent to which
an ADFNPSTSN is stimulated, how many ADFNPSTSNs per area are
stimulated, and duration of stimulation] – without damaging any of my
PSTSNs or their ADFNs, exceeding the maximum threshold of sensory
feedback, or overloading the rest of my nervous system.
During the ADFNPSTSN-excitement, the mystical entity also temporarily
disconnects –without damaging – any PSTSNNon-ADFNs from my PSTSNs at
the same time and at the same rate and amount at which it stimulates
my ADFNPSTSNs. This disconnection is physically-harmless but causes my
PSTSNNon-ADFNs to be completely unable to communicate with my PSTSNs
until reconnection.
In this hypothetical scenario, the ADFNPSTSN-excitement and
simultaneous PSTSNNon-ADFN-disconnection do not occur suddenly or in a
flash. They take place in a gradual, smooth, and sine-wave-like manner
-- in terms of extent to which an ADFNPSTSN is stimulated, how many
ADFNPSTSNs per area are stimulated, and how many PSTSNNon-ADFNs per
area are disconnected from their PSTSNs. Hence there is no hint of a
startle response at any level.
What symptoms will I experience as a result of this extreme ADFNPSTSN
excitement with simultaneous PSTSNNon-ADFN disconnection?
Thanks |
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| J.A. Legris... |
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:27 pm |
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On Jun 28, 11:42 am, GreenXenon <glucege... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:b65fde4af0]Hi:
I have speculative neuroscience question.
Let’s say that the PSTSNs in my body – and the ADFNs supplying them --
don’t have any refractory period or any other protections against
hyper-excitability.
PSTSN = Peripheral Somatic Tactile Sensory Nerve
ADFN = A-Delta-Fiber-Nociceptor
Non-ADFN = Sensory-receptor/nerve-ending that is not an ADFN or the
portion of a nerve that is attached to such a sensory-receptor/nerve-
ending
ADFNPSTSN = A-Delta-Fiber-Nociceptor supplying a PSTSN
PSTSNNon-ADFN = A non-ADFN supplying a PSTSN
Tactile = Pertaining only to sense of touch [including temperature,
pressure, pain, tickle, vibrations, movement, etc.]. *Not* including
any visual, auditory, gustatory, olfactory perceptions or any
sensations associated with the sense of balance.
Peripheral = pertaining only to the peripheral nervous system and not
the central nervous system.
Somatic = pertaining only to the somatic nervous system and not the
visceral, autonomic, or enteric nervous systems
Let’s say a mysterious entity decides to stimulate all the ADFNPSTSNs
in my body to the maximum extent possible [in terms of extent to which
an ADFNPSTSN is stimulated, how many ADFNPSTSNs per area are
stimulated, and duration of stimulation] – without damaging any of my
PSTSNs or their ADFNs, exceeding the maximum threshold of sensory
feedback, or overloading the rest of my nervous system.
During the ADFNPSTSN-excitement, the mystical entity also temporarily
disconnects –without damaging – any PSTSNNon-ADFNs from my PSTSNs at
the same time and at the same rate and amount at which it stimulates
my ADFNPSTSNs. This disconnection is physically-harmless but causes my
PSTSNNon-ADFNs to be completely unable to communicate with my PSTSNs
until reconnection.
In this hypothetical scenario, the ADFNPSTSN-excitement and
simultaneous PSTSNNon-ADFN-disconnection do not occur suddenly or in a
flash. They take place in a gradual, smooth, and sine-wave-like manner
-- in terms of extent to which an ADFNPSTSN is stimulated, how many
ADFNPSTSNs per area are stimulated, and how many PSTSNNon-ADFNs per
area are disconnected from their PSTSNs. Hence there is no hint of a
startle response at any level.
What symptoms will I experience as a result of this extreme ADFNPSTSN
excitement with simultaneous PSTSNNon-ADFN disconnection?
Thanks
[/quote:b65fde4af0]
Oh yes, EADFNPSTSNEWSPSTSNNon-ADFND. It feels like someone is pulling
your leg.
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Joe |
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| GreenXenon... |
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:38 pm |
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On Jun 28, 8:27 pm, "J.A. Legris" <jaleg... at (no spam) sympatico.ca> wrote:
[quote:482b6b239b]Oh yes, EADFNPSTSNEWSPSTSNNon-ADFND. It feels like someone is pulling
your leg.
[/quote:482b6b239b]
Huh? |
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| BOfL... |
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:18 pm |
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On Jun 28, 11:42 pm, GreenXenon <glucege... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:a5e0756947]Hi:
I have speculative neuroscience question.
Let’s say that the PSTSNs in my body – and the ADFNs supplying them --
don’t have any refractory period or any other protections against
hyper-excitability.
PSTSN = Peripheral Somatic Tactile Sensory Nerve
ADFN = A-Delta-Fiber-Nociceptor
Non-ADFN = Sensory-receptor/nerve-ending that is not an ADFN or the
portion of a nerve that is attached to such a sensory-receptor/nerve-
ending
ADFNPSTSN = A-Delta-Fiber-Nociceptor supplying a PSTSN
PSTSNNon-ADFN = A non-ADFN supplying a PSTSN
Tactile = Pertaining only to sense of touch [including temperature,
pressure, pain, tickle, vibrations, movement, etc.]. *Not* including
any visual, auditory, gustatory, olfactory perceptions or any
sensations associated with the sense of balance.
Peripheral = pertaining only to the peripheral nervous system and not
the central nervous system.
Somatic = pertaining only to the somatic nervous system and not the
visceral, autonomic, or enteric nervous systems
Let’s say a mysterious entity decides to stimulate all the ADFNPSTSNs
in my body to the maximum extent possible [in terms of extent to which
an ADFNPSTSN is stimulated, how many ADFNPSTSNs per area are
stimulated, and duration of stimulation] – without damaging any of my
PSTSNs or their ADFNs, exceeding the maximum threshold of sensory
feedback, or overloading the rest of my nervous system.
During the ADFNPSTSN-excitement, the mystical entity also temporarily
disconnects –without damaging – any PSTSNNon-ADFNs from my PSTSNs at
the same time and at the same rate and amount at which it stimulates
my ADFNPSTSNs. This disconnection is physically-harmless but causes my
PSTSNNon-ADFNs to be completely unable to communicate with my PSTSNs
until reconnection.
In this hypothetical scenario, the ADFNPSTSN-excitement and
simultaneous PSTSNNon-ADFN-disconnection do not occur suddenly or in a
flash. They take place in a gradual, smooth, and sine-wave-like manner
-- in terms of extent to which an ADFNPSTSN is stimulated, how many
ADFNPSTSNs per area are stimulated, and how many PSTSNNon-ADFNs per
area are disconnected from their PSTSNs. Hence there is no hint of a
startle response at any level.
What symptoms will I experience as a result of this extreme ADFNPSTSN
excitement with simultaneous PSTSNNon-ADFN disconnection?
Thanks
[/quote:a5e0756947]
Thank you for identifying the various components. Thank heavens for
acronyms..
(as an aside, how does the Chinese language ever manage without the
convenience of acronyms?:-)
As technical as the question is, it really boils down to the question,
' why am I made the way I am, and for what reason'?
The whole can never be identifyed by discecting and therefor
identifying a greater number of 'sums of parts', even though the
exercise would no doubt be very stimulating.
Physiology is not psychology...stating the obvious, and never the
twain shall meet.
BOfL |
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| Don Stockbauer... |
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:25 am |
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On Jun 29, 2:18 am, BOfL <bigflet... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:79b8343581]On Jun 28, 11:42 pm, GreenXenon <glucege... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Hi:
I have speculative neuroscience question.
Let’s say that the PSTSNs in my body – and the ADFNs supplying them --
don’t have any refractory period or any other protections against
hyper-excitability.
PSTSN = Peripheral Somatic Tactile Sensory Nerve
ADFN = A-Delta-Fiber-Nociceptor
Non-ADFN = Sensory-receptor/nerve-ending that is not an ADFN or the
portion of a nerve that is attached to such a sensory-receptor/nerve-
ending
ADFNPSTSN = A-Delta-Fiber-Nociceptor supplying a PSTSN
PSTSNNon-ADFN = A non-ADFN supplying a PSTSN
Tactile = Pertaining only to sense of touch [including temperature,
pressure, pain, tickle, vibrations, movement, etc.]. *Not* including
any visual, auditory, gustatory, olfactory perceptions or any
sensations associated with the sense of balance.
Peripheral = pertaining only to the peripheral nervous system and not
the central nervous system.
Somatic = pertaining only to the somatic nervous system and not the
visceral, autonomic, or enteric nervous systems
Let’s say a mysterious entity decides to stimulate all the ADFNPSTSNs
in my body to the maximum extent possible [in terms of extent to which
an ADFNPSTSN is stimulated, how many ADFNPSTSNs per area are
stimulated, and duration of stimulation] – without damaging any of my
PSTSNs or their ADFNs, exceeding the maximum threshold of sensory
feedback, or overloading the rest of my nervous system.
During the ADFNPSTSN-excitement, the mystical entity also temporarily
disconnects –without damaging – any PSTSNNon-ADFNs from my PSTSNs at
the same time and at the same rate and amount at which it stimulates
my ADFNPSTSNs. This disconnection is physically-harmless but causes my
PSTSNNon-ADFNs to be completely unable to communicate with my PSTSNs
until reconnection.
In this hypothetical scenario, the ADFNPSTSN-excitement and
simultaneous PSTSNNon-ADFN-disconnection do not occur suddenly or in a
flash. They take place in a gradual, smooth, and sine-wave-like manner
-- in terms of extent to which an ADFNPSTSN is stimulated, how many
ADFNPSTSNs per area are stimulated, and how many PSTSNNon-ADFNs per
area are disconnected from their PSTSNs. Hence there is no hint of a
startle response at any level.
What symptoms will I experience as a result of this extreme ADFNPSTSN
excitement with simultaneous PSTSNNon-ADFN disconnection?
Thanks
Thank you for identifying the various components. Thank heavens for
acronyms..
(as an aside, how does the Chinese language ever manage without the
convenience of acronyms?:-)
As technical as the question is, it really boils down to the question,
' why am I made the way I am, and for what reason'?
The whole can never be identifyed by discecting and therefor
identifying a greater number of 'sums of parts', even though the
exercise would no doubt be very stimulating.
Physiology is not psychology...stating the obvious, and never the
twain shall meet.
[/quote:79b8343581]
Just like 9/11, it's all an emergency. |
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:52 am |
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On Jun 29, 12:18 am, BOfL <bigflet... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:144d54e252]On Jun 28, 11:42 pm, GreenXenon <glucege... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Hi:
I have speculative neuroscience question.
Let’s say that the PSTSNs in my body – and the ADFNs supplying them --
don’t have any refractory period or any other protections against
hyper-excitability.
PSTSN = Peripheral Somatic Tactile Sensory Nerve
ADFN = A-Delta-Fiber-Nociceptor
Non-ADFN = Sensory-receptor/nerve-ending that is not an ADFN or the
portion of a nerve that is attached to such a sensory-receptor/nerve-
ending
ADFNPSTSN = A-Delta-Fiber-Nociceptor supplying a PSTSN
PSTSNNon-ADFN = A non-ADFN supplying a PSTSN
Tactile = Pertaining only to sense of touch [including temperature,
pressure, pain, tickle, vibrations, movement, etc.]. *Not* including
any visual, auditory, gustatory, olfactory perceptions or any
sensations associated with the sense of balance.
Peripheral = pertaining only to the peripheral nervous system and not
the central nervous system.
Somatic = pertaining only to the somatic nervous system and not the
visceral, autonomic, or enteric nervous systems
Let’s say a mysterious entity decides to stimulate all the ADFNPSTSNs
in my body to the maximum extent possible [in terms of extent to which
an ADFNPSTSN is stimulated, how many ADFNPSTSNs per area are
stimulated, and duration of stimulation] – without damaging any of my
PSTSNs or their ADFNs, exceeding the maximum threshold of sensory
feedback, or overloading the rest of my nervous system.
During the ADFNPSTSN-excitement, the mystical entity also temporarily
disconnects –without damaging – any PSTSNNon-ADFNs from my PSTSNs at
the same time and at the same rate and amount at which it stimulates
my ADFNPSTSNs. This disconnection is physically-harmless but causes my
PSTSNNon-ADFNs to be completely unable to communicate with my PSTSNs
until reconnection.
In this hypothetical scenario, the ADFNPSTSN-excitement and
simultaneous PSTSNNon-ADFN-disconnection do not occur suddenly or in a
flash. They take place in a gradual, smooth, and sine-wave-like manner
-- in terms of extent to which an ADFNPSTSN is stimulated, how many
ADFNPSTSNs per area are stimulated, and how many PSTSNNon-ADFNs per
area are disconnected from their PSTSNs. Hence there is no hint of a
startle response at any level.
What symptoms will I experience as a result of this extreme ADFNPSTSN
excitement with simultaneous PSTSNNon-ADFN disconnection?
Thanks
Thank you for identifying the various components. Thank heavens for
acronyms..
(as an aside, how does the Chinese language ever manage without the
convenience of acronyms?:-)
As technical as the question is, it really boils down to the question,
' why am I made the way I am, and for what reason'?
The whole can never be identifyed by discecting and therefor
identifying a greater number of 'sums of parts', even though the
exercise would no doubt be very stimulating.
Physiology is not psychology...stating the obvious, and never the
twain shall meet.
BOfL
[/quote:144d54e252]
From what scientists currently know, what symptoms would I experience
in the hypothetical scenario I described in the 1st post of this
thread? |
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:53 am |
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On Jun 29, 4:25 am, Don Stockbauer <donstockba... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
[quote:3bd73cb497]Just like 9/11, it's all an emergency.
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How so? |
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| Don Stockbauer... |
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:46 pm |
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On Jun 29, 6:53 am, GreenXenon <glucege... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:5eb536088e]On Jun 29, 4:25 am, Don Stockbauer <donstockba... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Just like 9/11, it's all an emergency.
How so?
[/quote:5eb536088e]
9/11 caused all sorts of emergent phenomena to occur. Like
scads-o-security-cameras everywhere. Has given the Earth a sort of
"fly's eye" vision. So nothing is completely evil. |
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