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Knecht...
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:20 pm
Guest
Dispensing with wooly philosophy and polemics for the moment, let's
do
some real physics.


Consider a simple model of the ground state H atom.


1. Conventional physics says the binding energy is due to the
electrostatic attraction of the proton and electron.


2. Discrete Scale Relativity says this is wrong, and that the binding
energy is primarily gravitational in origin.


Impossible!, says the conventional physicist. But watch this.


Discrete Scale Relativity says BE = - [(2GMm/r) + (alpha)(2GMm/r)]


where:
G = the gravitational coupling constant predicted by DSR
M = proton mass
m = electron mass
alpha = fine structure constant
r = Bohr radius


Using cgs units to calculate BE and converting from ergs to ev:
BE = -13.6 ev (which is correct)


What you have here is a radically different understanding of the
dynamics of an atom.


The first term is the dominant gravitational contribution and the
second term is the much smaller correction for the electrostatic
contribution.


This is not empty arm-waving, or name-dropping, or using theoretical
tricks like throwing in an enigmatic Planck's constant to get the
right result.


This is a new physics for atoms. Anyone ready to learn yet?


What if this understanding had been available in 1920!?


Yours in science,
Knecht
www.amherst.edy/~rloldershaw
 
Knecht...
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:30 pm
Guest
On Apr 8, 2:20 am, Knecht <rlolders... at (no spam) amherst.edu> wrote:

[quote:bf386ee020]Discrete Scale Relativity says BE = - [(2GMm/r) + (alpha)(2GMm/r)]
[/quote:bf386ee020]

Oops, I forgot a square root symbol.

(alpha) should be (alpha)^1/2 .


It was late, and all.
 
Knecht...
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:51 am
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On Apr 8, 7:19 am, Oh No <N... at (no spam) charlesfrancis.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
[quote:aa94de1272]
I thought you said real physics

As I recall this was to do with your theory that the gravitational
constant is not the gravitational constant after all, but has some other
value instead. Perhaps you can remind us of your formula for G.

Charles Francis
[/quote:aa94de1272]
Oh no! Do I hear the stamping of frustrated little feet? Perhaps I
should have said "real natural philosophy", since that is the real
foundation of all of physics.

Formula for calculating discrete scale invariant values of G can be
found in about 20 different places but one of the quickest to find is
http://independent.academia.edu/RobertLOldershaw/Papers/80420/Discrete-Scale-Relativity
..

Now let's see:

1. Correct p-e binding energy - check
2. Solution to the horrendous Vacuum Energy Density Crisis - check
3. First correct calculation of the Gravitational Bohr Radius - check
4. First sensible Planck scale in the history of physics - check
5. Correct modeling of p and e as Kerr-Newman solutions of GR+EM -
check
6. Explanation of the fine structure constant - check
7. First explanation of the Planck's constant enigma - check
8. First physical explanation of the Planck' mass and the leptron/
hadron discinction - check.

Houston, we are ready for liftoff.

No Charge,
Knecht
www.amherst.edu/~rloldershaw
 
 
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