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| Spirit of Truth... |
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:50 pm |
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It is time all Relativists realized that Relativity means
block-universe/block-time.
That means a forever future and forever past wherein Einstein and his
followers are all but puppets continually reenacting their laid out roles.
Think well on this foolishness, and work to solve the real problem.
There can not be lack of simultaneity in horizontal travel as NOW
is common in all frames at the same time just as in Newtonian and
Galileo's Physics...so if c is constant in all frames (addition of speed
not allowed) some other math solution has to be found or you will
continue to flounder forever in the hell of Lorentz and Einstein's
creation.
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| Ben Bean... |
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:47 pm |
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Spirit of Truth wrote:
Quote: It is time all Relativists realized that Relativity means
block-universe/block-time.
That means a forever future and forever past wherein Einstein and his
followers are all but puppets continually reenacting their laid out
roles.
Think well on this foolishness, and work to solve the real problem.
There can not be lack of simultaneity in horizontal travel as NOW
is common in all frames at the same time just as in Newtonian and
Galileo's Physics...so if c is constant in all frames (addition of
speed not allowed) some other math solution has to be found or you
will continue to flounder forever in the hell of Lorentz and
Einstein's creation.
Spirit of Truth
Maybe I see where you're going with that (or not). Not to worry, as the very
fundaments of relativity preclude any constraint on the freedom of events to unfold as
local causations dictate, ie. free from pre-destiny. Although, pre-destiny may be
somewhat alluring in some philosophical sense, because causations can travel from
place to place at no faster than lightspeed, there'll never be any spooky/unseen
interference visited upon local causality from some greater realm. You can still loose
your temper and punch your cousin if you want.
And (I feel) it's vital to see beyond the personalities and their archaic names.
Albert Einstein? Duh, who dat? a nobody for sure; some fdork was in the right place at
the right... well, you know. Hype is always looking to target someone, either to laud
or to blame. Don't be a puppet to hype. |
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| Spirit of Truth... |
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:19 pm |
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"Tom Roberts" <tjroberts137 at (no spam) sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Quote: Spirit of Truth wrote:
It is time all Relativists realized that Relativity means
block-universe/block-time.
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You should learn something about relativity before attempting to write
about it.
Tom Roberts
Tom, I ask you again...have you read Greene's Fabric of the Cosmos yet?
What I have stated is the exact truth of the math.
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| Spirit of Truth... |
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:22 pm |
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"Ben Bean" <kenscrapthisvicki at (no spam) all2easy.net> wrote in message
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Quote: Spirit of Truth wrote:
It is time all Relativists realized that Relativity means
block-universe/block-time.
That means a forever future and forever past wherein Einstein and his
followers are all but puppets continually reenacting their laid out
roles.
Think well on this foolishness, and work to solve the real problem.
There can not be lack of simultaneity in horizontal travel as NOW
is common in all frames at the same time just as in Newtonian and
Galileo's Physics...so if c is constant in all frames (addition of
speed not allowed) some other math solution has to be found or you
will continue to flounder forever in the hell of Lorentz and
Einstein's creation.
Spirit of Truth
Maybe I see where you're going with that (or not). Not to worry, as the
very fundaments of relativity preclude any constraint on the freedom of
events to unfold as local causations dictate, ie. free from pre-destiny.
Although, pre-destiny may be somewhat alluring in some philosophical
sense, because causations can travel from place to place at no faster than
lightspeed, there'll never be any spooky/unseen interference visited upon
local causality from some greater realm. You can still loose your temper
and punch your cousin if you want.
Ben, study the following to see the situation that presents itself:
http://phyun5.ucr.edu/~wudka/Physics7/Notes_www/node77.html
http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/archive/00001008/00/Conclusions_About_Simultaneity_of_Two_Events.pdf
The basics of SR need to be scrubbed and resolved to escape
the false conclusion of lack of simultaneity.
Spirit of Truth
Quote: And (I feel) it's vital to see beyond the personalities and their archaic
names. Albert Einstein? Duh, who dat? a nobody for sure; some fdork was in
the right place at the right... well, you know. Hype is always looking to
target someone, either to laud or to blame. Don't be a puppet to hype. |
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| Spirit of Truth... |
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:25 pm |
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| It is time all Relativists realized that Relativity means
| block-universe/block-time.
Translation:
"I have just realised that Relativity means
block-universe/block-time." - "Spirit of Truth"
Actually no. When I first read the 1905 lecture I saw the problem.
Then Greene confirmed it in Fabric of the Cosmos.
Spirit
Quote: | That means a forever future and forever past wherein Einstein and his
| followers are all but puppets continually reenacting their laid out
roles.
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| Think well on this foolishness, and work to solve the real problem.
The answer is 42... what's the question?
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| Spirit of Truth... |
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:36 pm |
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| > "Spirit of Truth" <juneharton at (no spam) prodigy.net> wrote in message
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| > | > "Spirit of Truth" <juneharton at (no spam) prodigy.net> wrote in message
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| > | > | It is time all Relativists realized that Relativity means
| > | > | block-universe/block-time.
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| > | > Translation:
| > | > "I have just realised that Relativity means
| > | > block-universe/block-time." - "Spirit of Truth"
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| > | Actually no. When I first read the 1905 lecture I saw the problem.
| > | Then Greene confirmed it in Fabric of the Cosmos.
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| > | Spirit
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| > | > | That means a forever future and forever past wherein Einstein
and
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| > | > | followers are all but puppets continually reenacting their laid
out
| > | > roles.
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| > | > | Think well on this foolishness, and work to solve the real
problem.
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| > | > The answer is 42... what's the question?
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| > So you can only deal with one statement at a time, huh?
| > What's the "real problem"? How to unblock the universe
| > or the drain in your kitchen sink?
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| > Oops... that's three questions. See if you can manage the last one
| > before signing off or making another silly statement.
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| Adrocles, you haven't realized yet that your problem is not one at all.
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| Spirit
I'm well aware that I have no problem, I'm trying to figure out what
you think the problem is.
You keep asking why Einstein said c+v and c-v. He did say
things in an awkward way sometimes but the actuality is
he was talking about gap closure math and that math is
correct but WRONG, because lack of simultaneity in
the horizontal math is impossible in this universe.
Spirit
Quote: Unless you are a trained psychologist or
psychiatrist you will be unable to help a relativist, you'll merely
antagonise them. I do that deliberately, of course. It's the cruel
streak in me; I'm having fun at their expense, kinda like laughing
at the idiot that slips on a banana skin and breaks his leg, which
is always funny when its the same idiot that dropped it in the first
place but not so funny when an innocent gets hurt.
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