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| Skybuck Flying... |
 Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:28 pm |
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Hello,
It seems the hardware of my pc is damaged again.
Probably the motherboard.
Sometimes the system crashes during a game.
I cleaned the pc hoping that it would solve the problem but nope.
There are some other symptoms:
1. Memory corruption/crashes.
2. The time runs a few seconds faster and then stops and then continues
again in xp 64.
3. The time skips a second in memtest.
Possible causes for damaged hardware:
1. Overheat in summer.
2. Short-circuit because of plastic stickers patching wholes which came
loose.
3. Lightning strikes.
4. Maybe power surges because of stuck power button or switching on/off
surround sound set.
5. Maybe just bad hardware not ment for heavy use, who knows ;)
Anyway another dead motherboard is scarey... it's not dead yet...
But it's definetly time to eradicate possiblity number one.
So today or tomorrow I will go or phone to local pc shop to see if they have
any good 90 mm rearcase fans... to increase airflow in pc casing.
I like the beautifull graphics in cod4... but I would like to have a
quiet/cool system in the future.
And the chances are pretty high that my future pc will be a cool pc and a
noiseless pc.. which will hopefully last as long as the 386's and 486's pc
did ;)
Bye,
Skybuck. |
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| Skybuck Flying... |
| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:29 pm |
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6. Maybe one last possibility... interference from gsm's...
It does happen sometimes... who knows what effect it could have...
Those gsm's pretty powerfull.
Bye,
Skybuck. |
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| RFI-EMI-GUY... |
| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:56 pm |
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Skybuck Flying wrote:
Quote: 6. Maybe one last possibility... interference from gsm's...
It does happen sometimes... who knows what effect it could have...
Those gsm's pretty powerfull.
Bye,
Skybuck.
Take it out back, shoot it with a shotgun. Don't get another one. You
will be happier.
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Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"©
"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."
"Follow The Money" ;-P |
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| Jeff Liebermann... |
| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:32 pm |
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:28:32 +0200, "Skybuck Flying"
<BloodyShame at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Howdy
Quote: It seems the hardware of my pc is damaged again.
Again? Lighning never strikes twice in the same place.
My guess is that you have a karma problem. Have you done
any good deeds lately?
Quote: Probably the motherboard.
The first step to solving a problem is to blame something. Blaming
the motherboard is a good first guess.
Quote: Sometimes the system crashes during a game.
Turn off the TV while using the computer. The games shows are
distracting.
Quote: I cleaned the pc hoping that it would solve the problem but nope.
Let the PC dry off before applying power.
Quote: There are some other symptoms:
1. Memory corruption/crashes.
If you can't remember what happened, it's called amnesia. However,
don't worry. Your memory will return when you hear the repair cost
estimate.
Quote: 2. The time runs a few seconds faster and then stops and then continues
again in xp 64.
You may have a black hole inside your PC. Time dilation is
theoretically possible in the presence of large gravitational fields.
It may have entered your PC via a worm hole. Look for worms coming
out of holes in the case.
Quote: 3. The time skips a second in memtest.
Easy. Don't run memtest and it won't skip a second.
Quote: Possible causes for damaged hardware:
1. Overheat in summer.
Hyperthermia can be serious. Turn on the air conditioner. That
should reduce your halucinations and visions of worms crawling out of
the PC.
Quote: 2. Short-circuit because of plastic stickers patching wholes which came
loose.
The stickers are to plug the worm holes in the case that keep the
worms inside. Short circuiting a worm hole is bad because it will
affect the CPU look ahead caching register, which predicts results
before the calculation is setup. This is a relativistic computing
enhancement that is easily corrupted by customer coherence problems.
Quote: 3. Lightning strikes.
Do not cross the picket line. Lightning has been know to get mean and
violent to strike breakers.
Quote: 4. Maybe power surges because of stuck power button or switching on/off
surround sound set.
These are seperate issues. Sticky power buttons are usually found
arount 2 year olds with sticky paws. Clean off the food residue and
the power button will resume normal operations.
Surround sound is a symptom of paranoia. If you feel yourself
surrounded by anything, you potentially have a serious case. Paranoia
is easily cured by a concienciously applied program of professional
psychological care.
Quote: 5. Maybe just bad hardware not ment for heavy use, who knows 
That depends on the type of PC. Some types are light weight and not
made to be taken seriously. Others will do heavy metal and require a
substantial power supply and cooling system. Crossing over between
types is generally possible, but not very economical or practical.
Quote: Anyway another dead motherboard is scarey... it's not dead yet...
If it's still alive and moving, a silver stake through the heart has
been known to stop the living dead.
Quote: But it's definetly time to eradicate possiblity number one.
Yep. It's an election year. Number one isn't running.
Quote: So today or tomorrow I will go or phone to local pc shop to see if they have
any good 90 mm rearcase fans... to increase airflow in pc casing.
Be sure to calculate the weights and balances. The FAA does not
appreciate airborne computer cases.
Quote: I like the beautifull graphics in cod4... but I would like to have a
quiet/cool system in the future.
I thought you wanted it now. There are vendors that supply computer
cases with beautiful graphics. I like the military camouflage look
for the 16 year old. European users seem to prefer brightly colored
cases. Some are nothing more than wall paper stuck onto the case. If
you go this route, make sure cod4 or your hired artist doesn't plug
the worm holes.
Quote: And the chances are pretty high that my future pc will be a cool pc and a
noiseless pc.. which will hopefully last as long as the 386's and 486's pc
did
Yep. The higher they fly, the harder they crash. Have you considered
that a simpler machine might be more reliable? If you're planning on
long life, you might consider one of the Unix/Linux based PC's. I've
still got systems running up to 15 year old operating systems.
Ummm... That's Buy.
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Jeff Liebermann jeffl at (no spam) cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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| daytripper... |
| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:52 pm |
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:56:02 -0400, RFI-EMI-GUY <Rhyolite at (no spam) NETTALLY.COM> wrote:
Quote: Skybuck Flying wrote:
6. Maybe one last possibility... interference from gsm's...
It does happen sometimes... who knows what effect it could have...
Those gsm's pretty powerfull.
Bye,
Skybuck.
Take it out back, shoot it with a shotgun. Don't get another one. You
will be happier.
You'd trust this nitwit with a firearm??? ahahahahahahahahaha! |
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| Skybuck Flying... |
| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:10 am |
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7. I also noticed how the heatsinks of the graphic cards were full with dust
and fluffy stuff. Also the cpu had quite some fluffy stuff on it.
Maybe all this fluffy stuff raised the temperature and could have
accelerated the overheating process...
So increasing airflow in cases could actually cause another problem:
More dust and fluffy stuff onto heatsinks...
Bye,
Skybuck. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:16 pm |
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On Jul 16, 7:28 pm, "Skybuck Flying" <BloodySh... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Hello,
It seems the hardware of my pc is damaged again.
Probably the motherboard.
Sometimes the system crashes during a game.
I cleaned the pc hoping that it would solve the problem but nope.
There are some other symptoms:
1. Memory corruption/crashes.
2. The time runs a few seconds faster and then stops and then continues
again in xp 64.
3. The time skips a second in memtest.
Possible causes for damaged hardware:
1. Overheat in summer.
2. Short-circuit because of plastic stickers patching wholes which came
loose.
3. Lightning strikes.
4. Maybe power surges because of stuck power button or switching on/off
surround sound set.
5. Maybe just bad hardware not ment for heavy use, who knows ;)
Anyway another dead motherboard is scarey... it's not dead yet...
But it's definetly time to eradicate possiblity number one.
So today or tomorrow I will go or phone to local pc shop to see if they have
any good 90 mm rearcase fans... to increase airflow in pc casing.
I like the beautifull graphics in cod4... but I would like to have a
quiet/cool system in the future.
And the chances are pretty high that my future pc will be a cool pc and a
noiseless pc.. which will hopefully last as long as the 386's and 486's pc
did ;)
Bye,
Skybuck.
Take up flower arranging as a hobby. Less expensive when things go
wrong.
Bye,
Michael |
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| Skybuck Flying... |
| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:17 pm |
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This is all not necessary.
1. First of all I am not happy with the heat situation so I want something
better.
Somebody has suggested the antec 1200 case... it comes with dust filters
which is very nice.
I am currently trying to investigate the antec 1200 case but my computer
keeps crashing lol.
Hopefully it will stay a little bit stable now... otherwise I ll have to
fire up my old pentium III again.
2. Second of all I have a backup-motherboard which should work flawlessly.
So all I need to do is get a new case, place the new motherboard in the
case, put everything in the new case... and then see if everything is
working allright.
If everything is working allright then I know it was the motherboard and I
can send it back to the reseller to hopefully get a new one as backup.
Only risk is new motherboard might get damaged if some other component is
bad but I don't think that's the case... and I don't think it will get
damaged so fast in such a situation... because currently it's working kinda.
Bye,
Skybuck. |
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| Calab... |
| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:38 pm |
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| 2. Second of all I have a backup-motherboard which should work flawlessly.
The same model as what is currently installed? If not, you should expect to
reinstall Windows.
....and it sounds like you should be considering that anyhow. |
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| Dirk Bruere at NeoPax... |
| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:50 pm |
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Skybuck Flying wrote:
Quote: This is all not necessary.
1. First of all I am not happy with the heat situation so I want something
better.
Somebody has suggested the antec 1200 case... it comes with dust filters
which is very nice.
I am currently trying to investigate the antec 1200 case but my computer
keeps crashing lol.
Hopefully it will stay a little bit stable now... otherwise I ll have to
fire up my old pentium III again.
2. Second of all I have a backup-motherboard which should work flawlessly.
So all I need to do is get a new case, place the new motherboard in the
case, put everything in the new case... and then see if everything is
working allright.
If everything is working allright then I know it was the motherboard and I
can send it back to the reseller to hopefully get a new one as backup.
Only risk is new motherboard might get damaged if some other component is
bad but I don't think that's the case... and I don't think it will get
damaged so fast in such a situation... because currently it's working kinda.
Bye,
Skybuck.
Under clock it.
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http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
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| Skybuck Flying... |
| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:16 pm |
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"nobody >" <usenetharvested at (no spam) aol.com> wrote in message
news:NvednYmn7coN_eLVnZ2dnUVZ_v7inZ2d at (no spam) supernews.com...
Quote: Skybuck Flying wrote:
The sticky plastic got sucked loose by the fans and the plastic dropped
down onto the motherboard probably causing a short circuit... and two
crashes.
Skybuck...
do you have any clues as to the conductivity of plastic (even the shiny
crome-y looking stuff)?
No, but I know what I saw, it short-circuited the electronics, twice.
Bye,
Skybuck. |
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| Skybuck Flying... |
| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:18 pm |
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"larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly at (no spam) my-deja.com> wrote in message
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Skybuck Flying wrote:
To answer your question about the plastic stuff I used:
I patched the holes on the side of the case from the inside with sticky
plastic.
The sticky plastic got sucked loose by the fans and the plastic dropped
down
onto the motherboard probably causing a short circuit... and two crashes.
Maybe this caused damage...
Just regular see-through sticky plastic used... from those round rollers.
Plastic can't cause short circuits.
This plastic apperently can, I dare you to try it out ;)
My favorite mystery explanation:
Maybe it was charged with static electricity by all the wind.
That's a very good explanation because did you ever notice how the plastic
sticks to your fingers ?
It's not because of the sticky stuff... it's the non sticky side that sticks
as well.
That's static electricty at work right there !
And we all know that's bad for electronics usually :)
Bye,
Skybuck. |
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| Skybuck Flying... |
| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:20 pm |
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Note on the time observation:
Apperently this is normal.
The pentium III with Windows XP Pro behaves in the same way:
It does:
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, Pause, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, Pause, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, Pause, etc.
Bye,
Skybuck. |
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