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How many physicians or dentists are or were trained in learning about
fibromyalgia?
How many cases of "TMJ" like pain are really early signs of
fibromyalgia?
My patients who have fibromyalgia have (1) TMJ facial pain, (2)
pressure point pain in the neck (3) sensitivity to temperature, and
(4) difficulty in sleeping.
How many cases of "TMJ" pain are not fibromyalgia?
....David DiBenedetto, DMD....practicing dentist and author, "Insider's
guide to gum disease, orthodontics, and dentistry. What is not taught
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:18 pm |
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:02:34 -0700 (PDT), oralhealth at (no spam) comcast.net
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Quote: ...David DiBenedetto, DMD....practicing
....idot
Go away, no one wants your ego stroker. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:33 pm |
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On Jul 15, 6:59 pm, "news.chi.sbcglobal.net"
<kureforcro... at (no spam) sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Quote: An opinion from a non-practicing idiot. I think Fibro-myalgia is an
offshoot of crohns disease. Not sure, as I am basing it on only one
incident. The person involved thought she had fibro-myalgia from the
silver fillings she had and replaced them all with other fillings.
Claimed she felt better. We had a mutual friend on anti-depressants she
was quite friendly with at the time and then the friendship faded
somewhat. Complicated world on the subject of drugs and consequences.
Gail
Dear Gail,
Of my 1/2 dozen Crohn's patients, only one has tmj symptoms. Her
TMJ symptoms today are not that bad. Interesting observation. She
has anterior guidance with a somehwhat small lower jaw. Maybe
Crohn's patients have a higher incidence of TMJ problems than the
general public. None of my patients who have fibromyalgia have
Crohn's disease.
But, A patient I saw last week, who suffered from TMJ sympyoms in the
past, I treated her over a year ago for tmj by adjusting her bite,
removing group and balancing side function and putting her into
anterior guidance. She had tremendous relief then, and came back for
a broken filling last week, and she presented with the symptoms of
fibromyalgia, pressure points, taking sleep medicine all the time,
cold sensitivity but she had thyroid cancer a year ago and she said
her pressure points pain began about 10 years ago after she was in a
car accident.
....David DiBenedetto, DMD |
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An opinion from a non-practicing idiot. I think Fibro-myalgia is an
offshoot of crohns disease. Not sure, as I am basing it on only one
incident. The person involved thought she had fibro-myalgia from the
silver fillings she had and replaced them all with other fillings.
Claimed she felt better. We had a mutual friend on anti-depressants she
was quite friendly with at the time and then the friendship faded
somewhat. Complicated world on the subject of drugs and consequences.
Gail |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:17 pm |
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This post includes some reference to crohns disease, so the persons that
object to this may wish to bypasss this post. Thank You
Dr. DiBenedetto,
I cannot say for certain, but I doubt TMJ is associated with crohns disease.
At the same time, nothing can be excluded from crohns as it has multiple
symptoms, many not recognized, being a very weird and strange non
nmainstream illness about which very little is known. (except for
treatment) But in all discussions here, TMJ was not mentioned in the same
bracket as crohns disease. Fibromyalgia is usually, (far as I know)
diagnosed as a separate illness than crohns. My discussion of crohns
disease is not popular on this group, so I hesitate to go further. But
desire overcomes me to tell you what I think crohns is caused by briefly.
It is caused by stimulants, anti-depressants being the most. When one
person is on a stimulant, there is the uncanny ability unknown to all
parties, to send harm in the form of crohns from the user of the stimulant
to a person he knows by mind/body connection, literally. I know it is hard
to believe that what one person ingests can harm another. The harm
continues in spite of distance, the two or more persons can be miles and
miles apart, still the damage continues. Only the mind and stimulant is at
work. Physicians do not know this, and dentists do not. To both,
everything is a natural progression of what must be of organic origin. I
see differently and experience differently and I am certain of what I know.
There is a blog? under my screen name KUREFORCROHNS on aol
search. Apparently, they do not think (is it google) it too strange to
print. They perhaps use it to advertise products for crohns disease.
Since the discussion of crohns or any related comment about it is unwelcome
here, I will end my post. That it does affect teeth and gums does not
alter the unwelcome aspect of acceptance. Actually, how would the dentist
know what the reason is for sudden bleeding gums or other symptoms.
Sincerely
Gail Michael |
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"news.chi.sbcglobal.net" <kureforcrohns at (no spam) sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:sZ9fk.8463$L_.5528 at (no spam) flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com...
Quote: An opinion from a non-practicing idiot. I think Fibro-myalgia is an
offshoot of crohns disease. Not sure, as I am basing it on only one
incident. The person involved thought she had fibro-myalgia from the
silver fillings she had and replaced them all with other fillings.
Claimed she felt better. We had a mutual friend on anti-depressants she
was quite friendly with at the time and then the friendship faded
somewhat. Complicated world on the subject of drugs and consequences.
Gail
That should be *mercury amalgram* fillings. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:13 am |
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Quote: That should be *mercury amalgram* fillings.
Posted from the department of redundancy department.
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That should be *mercury amalgram* fillings.
Posted from the department of redundancy department.
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"news.chi.sbcglobal.net" <kureforcrohns at (no spam) sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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An opinion from a non-practicing idiot. I think Fibro-myalgia is an
offshoot of crohns disease. Not sure, as I am basing it on only one
incident. The person involved thought she had fibro-myalgia from the
silver fillings she had and replaced them all with other fillings.
Claimed she felt better. We had a mutual friend on anti-depressants
she was quite friendly with at the time and then the friendship faded
somewhat. Complicated world on the subject of drugs and consequences.
Gail
That should be *mercury amalgram* fillings. |
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<cda2be93-e1d9-4b58-a023-5a774d2a0cfa at (no spam) f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
oralhealth at (no spam) comcast.net wrote:
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How many cases of "TMJ" pain are not fibromyalgia?
One that I know of.
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