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Candide...
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:21 pm
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In an ever increasing effort to do more with less RNs and LPNs, more and
more clinical settings are turning to various unlicensed personnel to
perform specific duties and tasks, formerly reserved for licensed
nurses.

Besides CNAs or NAs, we have a litany of positions, some old, some
recently created such as:

OR Techs
IV Techs
Trach Techs
Catheter and NG Insertion

And so on.

The newest addition, and the one causing furore in the ranks are
"Medication Nurse Assistants". That is right folks, states are starting
to allow unlicensed persons, with about 20 hours of training to hand out
some types of meds.

Thing about all these positions is more often than not, such
"assistants" or "technicians" are working under a RN's license. To me
this seems like a formulae for disaster.

Candide
"Never keep up with the Joneses. Drag them down to your level. It's
cheaper."
Quentin Crisp 1908 - 1999
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Marcus Aurelius...
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:41 pm
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Generally, an R.N. is required to make some form of assesment of a
patient before initiating any procedure such as to insure that the
patient intervention in question is appropriate, timely, and to
promulgate further interventions, if necessary.
If non R.N. personnel take over responsibilities formerly assumed by
R.N.'s, it can be reasonably assumed that the quality of care for
patients will be significantly adversely affected, given the
aforementioned and the original post, because non-R.N. personnel do
not have the theoretical and practical training and experience to do
the same .
Truckdude...
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:37 pm
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"Candide" <PityMePines at (no spam) anywhere.com> wrote in message
news:NKyek.184$gH4.39 at (no spam) trnddc05...
Quote:

In an ever increasing effort to do more with less RNs and LPNs, more and
more clinical settings are turning to various unlicensed personnel to
perform specific duties and tasks, formerly reserved for licensed
nurses.

Besides CNAs or NAs, we have a litany of positions, some old, some
recently created such as:

OR Techs
IV Techs
Trach Techs
Catheter and NG Insertion

And so on.

The newest addition, and the one causing furore in the ranks are
"Medication Nurse Assistants". That is right folks, states are starting
to allow unlicensed persons, with about 20 hours of training to hand out
some types of meds.

Thing about all these positions is more often than not, such
"assistants" or "technicians" are working under a RN's license. To me
this seems like a formulae for disaster.


It sure does. Sounds like you have identified another upside to my being
part of an all RN staff.
cat...
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:23 pm
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"Candide" <PityMePines at (no spam) anywhere.com> wrote in message

Quote:
The newest addition, and the one causing furore in the ranks are
"Medication Nurse Assistants". That is right folks, states are starting
to allow unlicensed persons, with about 20 hours of training to hand out
some types of meds.

Unfortunately, it's nothing new. When I was teaching LPN students ten years
ago, some of them (all CNAs) made a point of telling me that they were
already certified to hand out meds. Their lack of pharmacology knowledge
was staggering.

Without the patient assessment, I don't know how they can tell whether a
patient should or shouldn't receive a given medication. Almost every day, I
have issues regarding one or another med that someone is supposed to
receive.
 
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