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David Ames...
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:38 am
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Several years ago I gave up on Wisk detergent. It seemed to me that
the liquid had become thicker, so that a greater amount poured out of
the container onto the same surface area of clothing.

Now I see Tide detergent advertising itself as "2x" with apparently
the same object and result. I's like to ask you knowledgeable people
if I have a correct understanding of the matter.

David Ames
N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc)...
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:04 pm
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Dear David Ames:

"David Ames" <worldrecord at (no spam) juno.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Several years ago I gave up on Wisk detergent.
It seemed to me that the liquid had become
thicker, so that a greater amount poured out
of the container onto the same surface area
of clothing.

When the water get in with the wash, the detergent is uniformly
distributed... in the water.

Quote:
Now I see Tide detergent advertising itself
as "2x" with apparently the same object and
result.

Yes. They can tie up less fossil fuels in a smaller package, and
waste less fossil fuel trucking "water" across the country. A
win-win.

Quote:
I's like to ask you knowledgeable people
if I have a correct understanding of the matter.

It does not change how the detergent works. They could send you
a "tablespoon" of solid detergent, and you'd get the same
cleaning effect as you are getting now... but someone would add
more.

I kept one of the old detergent bottles that allows me to measure
a capful, and I dilute the 2x solution into that bottle. Because
I hate those dispenser bottles that really need a diaper around
them... they leak worse than I do.

David A. Smith
David Ames...
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:27 pm
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On Jun 15, 4:04 pm, "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)" <dl... at (no spam) cox.net>
wrote:
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Dear David Ames:

"David Ames" <worldrec... at (no spam) juno.com> wrote in message

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Several years ago I gave up on Wisk detergent.
It seemed to me that the liquid had become
thicker, so that a greater amount poured out
of the container onto the same surface area
of clothing.

When the water get in with the wash, the detergent is uniformly
distributed... in the water.

It seems to me that you are not answering the question, but

reinterpreting the question in order to present your particular
knowledge. The question does not concern what happens upon dilution,
but rather concerns trying to put an effective amount of cleansing
agent on the article to be cleansed. It seems to me that "Tide 2x"
must be more viscous than "Tide" and that pouring the *least feasible*
volume of detergent onto the area to be cleansed must cause a greater
*effective* amount to be poured onto the spot/stain/whatever. This
perception is what caused me to give up on Wisk several years ago.

David Ames
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:11 pm
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Dear David Ames:

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Dear David Ames:

"David Ames" <worldrec... at (no spam) juno.com> wrote in message

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Several years ago I gave up on Wisk detergent.
It seemed to me that the liquid had become
thicker, so that a greater amount poured out
of the container onto the same surface area
of clothing.

When the water get in with the wash, the
detergent is uniformly distributed... in the water.

It seems to me that you are not answering the
question,

Did you see a question mark in the above text?

Quote:
but reinterpreting the question in order to
present your particular knowledge. The
question does not concern what happens
upon dilution, but rather concerns trying to
put an effective amount of cleansing
agent on the article to be cleansed. It
seems to me that "Tide 2x" must be more
viscous than "Tide"

Yes, it is.

Quote:
and that pouring the *least feasible* volume
of detergent onto the area to be cleansed
must cause a greater *effective* amount to
be poured onto the spot/stain/whatever.

Methods have to be changed. Note that you are much more clear
about your "question" now.

Quote:
This perception is what caused me to give
up on Wisk several years ago.

Prepare to give up on all of them, because low volume washers are
becoming the norm, and it costs too much to simply ship the extra
water.

I'd recommend you pick a brand you like, use a baster to draw up
a known amount of detergent, and thin it yourself into a jar of
"pretreater solution".

How did you handle using powder detergent? That sems to be
making a comeback too.

David A. Smith
Herman Family...
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:38 pm
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"Mark Thorson" <nospam at (no spam) sonic.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
David Ames wrote:

It seems to me that you are not answering the question,
but
reinterpreting the question in order to present your
particular
knowledge. The question does not concern what happens
upon dilution,
but rather concerns trying to put an effective amount of
cleansing
agent on the article to be cleansed. It seems to me that
"Tide 2x"
must be more viscous than "Tide" and that pouring the
*least feasible*
volume of detergent onto the area to be cleansed must
cause a greater
*effective* amount to be poured onto the
spot/stain/whatever. This
perception is what caused me to give up on Wisk several
years ago.

What's viscosity got to do with it, except
for shaping consumer preferences? It's not
like there's some master stock solution somewhere,
and the more runny your portion is, the more
dilute it is. Viscosity is not necessarily
an indication of strength for these products.
I can give you any viscosity you want! Smile

Higher viscosity may mean that they just added more
thickener. That would be to help everyone think that it was
more concentrated.

Michael
 
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