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| Claudius Denk... |
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:44 am |
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On Jun 7, 5:50 am, Lee Olsen <paleoc... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: "If you were among the unfortunate crowd who spent a good amount of
time listening to visiting lecturer Elaine Morgan recently,
regarding the 'Aquatic Ape Theory', be advised of the following
points.
1. Aquatic Ape Theory has been scientifically reviewed, and, despite
what was presented at this lecture, it has been found to be severely
wanting. AAT is not a 'credible alternative theory';
Nor is conventional theory.
Quote: it is what is
known as a post-hoc accommodative argument. Strictly speaking AAT does
not really have a coherent body of theory, only a few disassociated
(non)explanations for a few biological characteristics of the genus
Homo.
Ditto.
Quote: People should be aware that AAT is NOT 'mainstream' or 'a viable
alternative' as claimed at the lecture.
Alternative to what?
Quote: 2. AAT is poorly regarded because it is a poor explanatory device. It
is poorly regarded because it has been examined and found to be
invalid. It is not poorly regarded because of some scientific cover-up
or paranoia.
Agreed.
Quote: It is not poorly regarded because scientists cannot
accept change.
Modern PA is only slightly less absurd than AAT.
Quote: Scientific knowledge does change, all the time, and it
has been pointed out that science is the worst place to try to hide
anything because fraud will be exposed through experiment. AAT is
simply a theory that has been evaluated (and ditched) by most serious
anthropologists.
Anthropologists are so collectively ignorant about biological
evolution that it hardly matters that they've gotten it right about
AAT.
Quote:
3. The presentation on 14 October is an embarrassment to Simon Fraser
University, and the sponsoring hosts. How this pop/crypto/science
'theory' was given equal billing with real research efforts is beyond
me.
If you have no alternative you have nothing to whine about.
Quote: The fact that the 'theory' was included in a series of lectures
dealing with darwinian processes (The Institute of Humanities' 'Old
Minds and Bodies in New Worlds: A Darwinian Perspective on Our Past,
Present and Future' lectures) is a travesty, as AAT crumbles when
examined for internal darwinian logic.
Internal darwinian logic? This is pure propaganda.,
Unfortunately, having the
Quote: speaker lecture on AAT was akin to having SFU sponsor Erich von
Daniken to speak about spaceship depictions in Maya tombs.
Here's a point to consider when evaluating AAT. I did not learn this
point from some academic overlord with an anti-AAT agenda; I learned
it while trying to avoid becoming crocodile food in Africa. When I
spent several months with a team at Lake Turkana, Kenya, investigating
some of the most important early hominid sites in the world, one of
our overriding concerns -- while swimming, bathing, or catching fish
with a net -- was to watch out for crocodiles in the shallows. A croc
can be on you, crush your legs in its jaws, and drag you under to
drown before you have time to screech for help.
The same can be said for the predators in treeless savanna habitat.
Quote: The fact that crocodiles co-existed in time and space with early
hominids is a colossal blow to AAT,
What about sabre-toothed cats and bear-sized hyena?
which does not explain what
Quote: advantages early humans would have gained by spending time in
crocodile-populated waters; an environment where they could not make
fires, throw stones or sticks, use other tools,
Why not?
or have any hope
Quote: whatever of escaping the most common predator. A troop of early
hominids wading in a lakeshore or swampy forest would best be
described as a crocodile banquet. The cute, feel-good images of babies
swimming freely in a pool, shown in the AAT video, have nothing to do
with the real situation of predator avoidance in Africa. Ask the
Dasenich or Turkana people who live around Lake Turkana: only visiting
maniacs swim in that lake.
There's much else to say, but I have a 650-word limit. Please keep in
mind, the 'savanna hypothesis' has indeed been largely abandoned,
And it's been replaced with . . . what? The fact that AAT is wrong
does not mean that your vague nonsense becomes valid by default. The
truth is tha conventional theorist have no coherent theory.
but
Quote: that does NOT validate AAT a priori. Neither is AAT validated because
of the common sentiment that 'it is someone's opinion, and everyone is
entitled to an opinion'. Opinion is not the same thing as scientific
theory.
The damage of this lecture was to those who came to the lecture
expecting, and possibly believing, that AAT was a viable body of
theory. It is not, and it does not deserve that label."
Disproving AAT does not validate conventional vagueness.
Quote: Cheers,
Cameron M. Smith
http://biz.yahoo.com/wallstreet/080522/sb121141083022412295_id.html?.v=2
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