SF:

1. Aquatic Ape Theory has been scientifically reviewed

by netloons like olson...??  

luckily serious PAs know the savanna was correct all along.

  Tobias 1995

1. Aquatic Ape Theory has been scientifically reviewed

http://biz.yahoo.com/wallstreet/080522/sb121141083022412295_id.html?.v=2
"According to a new report from the Consumer Product Safety
Commission, the average annual
number of drowning deaths involving children younger than five in
pools and spas has increased
from 267 for 2002-2004 to 283 for 2003-2005. The majority of deaths
and injuries occur in
residential settings and involve children ages one to two, according
to the commission.
"We have to make sure that parents and caregivers understand when
you've got a child around
a body of water, you can't take it lightly," says acting commission
chairman Nancy Nord. "You
have to be vigilant."

OT, troll.
This isn't exactly OT, Jerry.  Nor is Lee a troll.

:-D

What else??

SF:

1. Aquatic Ape Theory has been scientifically reviewed
by netloons like olson...??   :-D

SF:

Asks the wetloon verhaegin who doesn't know a mountain beaver from a
capybara.
luckily serious PAs know the savanna was correct all along.
  Tobias 1995

SF snipped argupment of leading PAs.

SF:

Retired when???

has darwin retired IYO, my little boy

SF:

1. Aquatic Ape Theory has been scientifically reviewed
by netloons like olson...??   :-D

SF:

Asks the wetloon verhaegin who doesn't know a mountain beaver from a
capybara.
luckily serious PAs know the savanna was correct all along.
  Tobias 1995
SF snipped argupment of leading PAs.

SF:

Leading PAs don't have an argument until they come to the realization
that the first stone tools did not get out on the savanna by
themselves.


:-D

My little boy,

humans are fat & naked & need lots of water & DHA & iodine
these are facts.
Stone tools near water in savannas or elsewhere on confirm that our
ancestors have always been waterside.

Verhaegen et al. (TREE 2002) Page 213:
"Our extensive survey of the literature [17]"

ROFL

Sigh. Why done't you inform a little bit, my little boy,

before opening you
big mouth:

At Gona, Ethiopia, 2.5 Ma-old stone tools were deposited in ³floodplain
environments, close to margins of channels that carried the volcanic cobbles
used as raw materials for tool manufacture² (Semaw et al. 1997: 333).

1. Aquatic Ape Theory has been scientifically reviewed

by netloons like olson...??  

Asks the wetloon verhaegin who doesn't know a mountain beaver from a
capybara.

luckily serious PAs know the savanna was correct all along.
  Tobias 1995

SF snipped argupment of leading PAs.

Leading PAs don't have an argument until they come to the realization
that the first stone tools did not get out on the savanna by
themselves.

Verhaegen et al. (TREE 2002) Page 213:
"Our extensive survey of the literature [17]"

ROFL

SF:

Leading PAs don't have an argument until they come to the realization
that the first stone tools did not get out on the savanna by
themselves.

:-D

My little boy, humans are fat & naked & need lots of water & DHA & iodine
these are facts.
Stone tools near water in savannas or elsewhere on confirm that our
ancestors have always been waterside.

SFs are stupid stupid stupid.

Op 09-06-2008 00:33, in artikel
766c1477-21e1-42b1-a9f9-d223c21c4... at (no spam) q27g2000prf.googlegroups.com, Lee Olsen
paleoc... at (no spam) hotmail.com> schreef:





On Jun 8, 2:47 pm, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae... at (no spam) skynet.be> wrote:
Verhaegen et al. (TREE 2002) Page 213:
"Our extensive survey of the literature [17]"

ROFL

Sigh. Why done't you inform a little bit, my little boy,

Still lusting after little boys, pervert?

before opening you
big mouth:

At Gona, Ethiopia, 2.5 Ma-old stone tools were deposited in ³floodplain
environments, close to margins of channels that carried the volcanic cobbles
used as raw materials for tool manufacture² (Semaw et al. 1997: 333).

The tools were not deposited when it was flooding, proven by lack of
rolling
evidence on the tools. Flood plains are BONE dry most of the year.

Now is not then,

my little boy:

At Gona, Ethiopia, 2.5 Ma-old stone tools were deposited in “floodplain
environments, close to margins of channels that carried the volcanic cobbles
used as raw materials for tool manufacture” (Semaw et al. 1997: 333).

Nearby, in the Hata Member of the Bouri Formation, hominid fossils of a
similar age to the Gona deposits were discovered in sediments containing
sandstone with bivalve and gastropod shells “deposited by fluvial processes
associated with floodplains along distributary channels close to a shallow
fluctuating lake” (de Heinzelin et al. 1999: 625).

This Member also reveals
evidence of cut and percussion marks on bones of medium and large-sized
bovids, though stone tools have so far not been discovered.

The Homo maxilla AL 666, dated to 2.3 Ma, along with a stone tool assemblage
(though no signs of butchering), was recovered from deposits of the Hadar
Formation, suggesting a landscape which was “predominantly open, with
wetlands and bushed or wooded grasslands, and with stands of trees close to
the water source” (Kimbel et al. 1996: 559).

At Olduvai Gorge Plio-Pleistocene Homo remains are associated with deposits
containing “cemented aggregates of the small benthic, freshwater clam
Corbicula” as well as crocodiles, hippos and fish (Blumenschine et al. 2003:
1220).  Cut and percussion marks are found on a percentage (4.2 and 8.3%
respectively) of the long bones of larger mammals.

 Fish and gastropods,
judging by the remains of ‘living sites’, might have been consumed at
Olduvai Gorge, while the avian fauna included abundant waders (flamingoes,
herons, storks, rails, jacanas, plovers, sandpipers and stilts), swimmers
and divers (grebes, cormorants, pelicans and ducks) as well as marine birds
(gulls, terns and skimmers) (Leakey 1979).

The earliest occurrence of the genus Homo in the Turkana Basin is associated
with flood-plain deposits in which gastropods, fish, crocodiles, bovids,
equids, suids, cercopithecids and hippopotamids occur (Pratt et al. 2005).

During Plio-Pleistocene times the Turkana Basin contained a large lake
fringed by swampy wetlands as indicated by the numerous fossils of hippos,
crocodiles, fish (including a stingray, suggesting a marine connection at
the time), gastropods, bivalves, sponges and numerous ostracods.  Lung fish,
water bucks, cane rats, monkeys, giraffes, buffaloes, camels, rhinoceroses
and elephants suggest a rich mosaic of wet, dry, open and closed habitats in
the vicinity of an extensive lake, or large river (Feibel et al. 1991).

Table 6. Taxa found in Unit 2 at Nariokotome III (from Walker and Leakey
1993)

  Taxa   Lifestyle and habitat
  Pila ovata   Air-breathing, shallow-water swamp snail
  Claria sp.   Shallow-water catfish

humans are fat & naked & need lots of water & DHA & iodine
these are facts.

Stone tools near water in savannas or elsewhere on confirm that our
ancestors have always been waterside.

Stone tools are found all over the savannas,

On Jun 8, 2:47 pm, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae... at (no spam) skynet.be> wrote:
Verhaegen et al. (TREE 2002) Page 213:
"Our extensive survey of the literature [17]"

ROFL

Sigh. Why done't you inform a little bit, my little boy,

Still lusting after little boys, pervert?


before opening you
big mouth:

At Gona, Ethiopia, 2.5 Ma-old stone tools were deposited in ³floodplain
environments, close to margins of channels that carried the volcanic cobbles
used as raw materials for tool manufacture² (Semaw et al. 1997: 333).

The tools were not deposited when it was flooding, proven by lack of
rolling
evidence on the tools. Flood plains are BONE dry most of the year.

On Jun 9, 8:28?am, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae... at (no spam) skynet.be> wrote:
Op 09-06-2008 00:33, in artikel
766c1477-21e1-42b1-a9f9-d223c21c4... at (no spam) q27g2000prf.googlegroups.com, Lee Olsen
paleoc... at (no spam) hotmail.com> schreef:





On Jun 8, 2:47?pm, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae... at (no spam) skynet.be> wrote:
Verhaegen et al. (TREE 2002) Page 213:
"Our extensive survey of the literature [17]"

ROFL

Sigh. Why done't you inform a little bit, my little boy,

Still lusting after little boys, pervert?

before opening you
big mouth:

At Gona, Ethiopia, 2.5 Ma-old stone tools were deposited in ©øfloodplain
environments, close to margins of channels that carried the volcanic
cobbles
used as raw materials for tool manufacture©÷ (Semaw et al. 1997: 333).

The tools were not deposited when it was flooding, proven by lack of
rolling
evidence on the tools. Flood plains are BONE dry most of the year.

Now is not then,

What part of this are you too stupid to understand?

The tools were not deposited when it was flooding, proven by lack of
rolling evidence on the tools. Flood plains are BONE dry most of the
year.


my little boy:

Still lusting after little boys, pervert?


At Gona, Ethiopia, 2.5 Ma-old stone tools were deposited in ¡°floodplain
environments, close to margins of channels that carried the volcanic cobbles
used as raw materials for tool manufacture¡± (Semaw et al. 1997: 333).

Close to is not in.


Nearby, in the Hata Member of the Bouri Formation, hominid fossils of a
similar age to the Gona deposits were discovered in sediments containing
sandstone with bivalve and gastropod shells ¡°deposited by fluvial processes
associated with floodplains along distributary channels close to a shallow
fluctuating lake¡± (de Heinzelin et al. 1999: 625).

"fluctuating" thanks for proving my point above.

This Member also reveals
evidence of cut and percussion marks on bones of medium and large-sized
bovids, though stone tools have so far not been discovered.

Yep, no shell middens here, just as I thought. They were cutting
kudus, not algae,
what did you expect?


The Homo maxilla AL 666, dated to 2.3 Ma, along with a stone tool assemblage
(though no signs of butchering), was recovered from deposits of the Hadar
Formation, suggesting a landscape which was ¡°predominantly open, with
wetlands and bushed or wooded grasslands, and with stands of trees close to
the water source¡± (Kimbel et al. 1996: 559).

Great place to set up a hunting blind, bad place to camp.

Butchering

"Archaeological sites created as a result of of these activities
display several important
characteristics:
They are found near water points where Hazda never camp."

Camps

"The common presence of large
predators, especially in the late dry season,
makes them dangerous places, especially at
night, even for hunters in thorn-walled
blinds. Women and children rarely visit
these locations after dark. Among the
Hadza, base camps are almost always established
in other settings, 10¡©20 minutes
walk from permanent water, generally
outside riparian habitats, especially in the
dry season."


J. F. O¡¯Connell et al.

Male strategies and Plio-Pleistocene
archaeology
Journal of Human Evolution (2002) 43, 831¡©872




At Olduvai Gorge Plio-Pleistocene Homo remains are associated with deposits
containing ¡°cemented aggregates of the small benthic, freshwater clam
Corbicula¡± as well as crocodiles, hippos and fish (Blumenschine et al. 2003:
1220). ?Cut and percussion marks are found on a percentage (4.2 and 8.3%
respectively) of the long bones of larger mammals.

Cut marks again? Didn't they eat anything besides kudus?

?Fish and gastropods,
judging by the remains of ¡®living sites¡¯, might have been consumed at
Olduvai Gorge, while the avian fauna included abundant waders (flamingoes,
herons, storks, rails, jacanas, plovers, sandpipers and stilts), swimmers
and divers (grebes, cormorants, pelicans and ducks) as well as marine birds
(gulls, terns and skimmers) (Leakey 1979).

Yep, hard evidence the birds were eating the fish, thanks for that.

The earliest occurrence of the genus Homo in the Turkana Basin is associated
with flood-plain deposits in which gastropods, fish, crocodiles, bovids,
equids, suids, cercopithecids and hippopotamids occur (Pratt et al. 2005).

Too bad there is no evidence at all early Homo was eating an aquatic/
littoral diet.
But we do know from isotopes that they were eating C4 grass or eating
the animals that were eating C4 grass, evidenced by all the cut-marked
kudu bones.


http://www.scienceinafrica.co.za/2001/december/hominids.htm
"None of the hominids analysed so far ate a diet like that of the
modern chimpanzee, gorilla, or even orangutan, all of which eat nearly
100% C3 foods. This is not to say that they did not eat fruits and
leaves - they most probably did. But they also ate quantities of
actual grasses, or animals that ate the grasses, or both. Grass itself
is difficult to process and to extract the nutrients (unless one is
well-equipped to do so, like a cow), so it's difficult to visualise
how such a large ''grass" signature could occur unless the hominids
ate some animal foods. C4 -consuming invertebrate and vertebrate
animals were abundant and easily collected by hominids. Raymond Dart
was on the right track all those years ago, even if his environmental
scenario was not quite right!"



During Plio-Pleistocene times the Turkana Basin contained a large lake
fringed by swampy wetlands as indicated by the numerous fossils of hippos,
crocodiles, fish (including a stingray, suggesting a marine connection at
the time), gastropods, bivalves, sponges and numerous ostracods. ?Lung fish,
water bucks, cane rats, monkeys, giraffes, buffaloes, camels, rhinoceroses
and elephants suggest a rich mosaic of wet, dry, open and closed habitats in
the vicinity of an extensive lake, or large river (Feibel et al. 1991).

Vicinity????

"Apparently, early humans were in command of at least this portion of
the ancient lakeshore."

"One of the puzzles about Xiaochanglian is that fish fossils are
extremely rare in the sediments containing artifacts.
My guess is that the ancient lake, at least in this vicinity, was too
saline or alkaline for aquatic vertebrates,while
the streams that fed it, although fresh, may have been to ephermal
and shallow to support fish.
A study of the remains of microscopic crustaceans by Manuel Palacios,
of the University of Arizona, confirms that the lake was saline. "

"This kind of habitat---a brackish lake fed by freshwater--- has been
suggested for Olduvai Gorge and Lake Turkana."

Geoffrey G. Pope June 1993 Ancient Asia's Cutting Edge. Natural
History.

Table 6. Taxa found in Unit 2 at Nariokotome III (from Walker and Leakey
1993)

? Taxa ? Lifestyle and habitat
? Pila ovata ? Air-breathing, shallow-water swamp snail
? Claria sp. ? Shallow-water catfish

Shallow water says it all. The catfish minnows were eating T-boy, not
the other way around. So much for imaginary littoral lifestyles.