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The global food crisis demands that we recycle old ideas.
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Biodegradation of petroleum via fermentation.
Liu, D
Biotechnology (pp. 103-134)
1985
Cheremisinoff PN and Ouellette RP (Eds)
The growth of microorganisms on petroleum hydrocarbons has received
considerably attention because of the possibility of producing
single-cell-protein from petroleum for animal feed or human food uses.
Moreover, the prospects of utilizing hydrocarbon-degrading microorganisms
for the treatment of refinery waste as well as for the clean-up of oil spill
have promoted research endeavors in various aspects of petroleum
biodegradation. Because of the voluminous research on the subject of
petroleum biodegradation, no attempt will be made to carry out an exhaustive
search and review of all the literature. Instead, this chapter will focus on
the practical aspects of petroleum biodegradation and the related processes.
The literature data will be presented in 12 tables and it is hoped that this
approach will assist in coalescing the diverse subjects into a coherent
framework, which will be useful to scientists and engineers in the field of
petroleum fermentation.
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The current craze to turn food stock into fuel is evocative of some kinds of
metabolic disregulation. Enzymatic evolution eliminated such useless cycles
eons ago. Mother Gaia is surely displeased with the current generation of
environmentalists. Maybe she will cleanse the earth with fire or ice, this
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:10 am |
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On May 18, 11:39 am, "kiloVolts" <spamt... at (no spam) nospam.com> wrote:
Quote: Why not just recycle SUV's into guns? That would solve the overpopulation
problem. I presume there is no shotage of bullets. Am I wrong?- Hide quoted text -
NO! You have all wrong. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
The problem with your thesis that guns can be used as a means of
population contol is that there is grave planetary shortage of cold
blooded killers. The only hope to control population is birth control.
The only acceptable contraception is the pill. Have you ever tried to
get it up or keep it up inside a rubber? The problem with chemical
contraception is that there is a grave planetary shortage of chemists
and pharamceutical companies. Also there is way to much regulation of
the pharmaceutical industry, inhibiting brave chemists from producing
drugs for the needy population of the world. WTO be damned! |
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| Bill Penrose... |
| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 11:44 am |
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On May 18, 1:10 pm, nico... at (no spam) hushmail.com wrote:
Quote: ...The only hope to control population is birth control.
The only acceptable contraception is the pill.
Seems to be working so far...
The chief hindrance to population control is organized religion.
All major religions oppose birth control. It's bad for recruitment and
political power.
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:15 pm |
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On May 18, 2:44 pm, Bill Penrose <penr... at (no spam) iit.edu> wrote:
Quote: The chief hindrance to population control is organized religion.
All major religions oppose birth control. It's bad for recruitment and
political power.
Realistically, environmentalism is a religion. They not only promote
population control through contraception and sterilization, they are
tolerant of and accept homosexuality. I suppose all major religions of
which you speak would denounce environmentalism as a false religion
and the work of the devil.
I suspect that all major religions would support turning petroleum
into food but that it would be denounced by environmentalists because
it would add fossil CO2 to the atmosphere. Let them denounce a good
idea in the face of a grave humanitarian global food crisis. I want to
see more strife between environmentalism and all other major
religions. It warms the cockles of my black heart. |
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| Robert S... |
| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:23 pm |
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2 wrote:
Quote: The global food crisis demands that we recycle old ideas.
http://md1.csa.com/partners/viewrecord.php?requester=gs&collection=TRD&recid=20070650244928MT&q=&uid=791974967&setcookie=yes
Biodegradation of petroleum via fermentation.
Liu, D
Biotechnology (pp. 103-134)
1985
Cheremisinoff PN and Ouellette RP (Eds)
The growth of microorganisms on petroleum hydrocarbons has received
considerably attention because of the possibility of producing
single-cell-protein from petroleum for animal feed or human food uses.
Moreover, the prospects of utilizing hydrocarbon-degrading microorganisms
for the treatment of refinery waste as well as for the clean-up of oil spill
have promoted research endeavors in various aspects of petroleum
biodegradation. Because of the voluminous research on the subject of
petroleum biodegradation, no attempt will be made to carry out an exhaustive
search and review of all the literature. Instead, this chapter will focus on
the practical aspects of petroleum biodegradation and the related processes.
The literature data will be presented in 12 tables and it is hoped that this
approach will assist in coalescing the diverse subjects into a coherent
framework, which will be useful to scientists and engineers in the field of
petroleum fermentation.
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The current craze to turn food stock into fuel is evocative of some kinds of
metabolic disregulation. Enzymatic evolution eliminated such useless cycles
eons ago. Mother Gaia is surely displeased with the current generation of
environmentalists. Maybe she will cleanse the earth with fire or ice, this
time.
This suggests a new pinnacle of environmental achievement: turning
petroleum into biomass, converting that into petroleum and that in
turn back into biomass...etc unto infinity.
Each stage of the process would of course be heavily subsidized by tax-
payers, and it could continue forever without producing anything of
value, save an inelegant thermodynamic downward spiral. |
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:56 pm |
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"Bill Penrose" <penrose at (no spam) iit.edu> wrote
Quote: On May 17, 4:11 pm, "2" <non... at (no spam) anon.com> wrote:
The global food crisis demands that we recycle old ideas.
This month, the 6,666,666,666th person was born on earth.
What the earth needs is a way to turn people into oil.
Please feed my SUV.
DB
The cycle is almost complete. Remember "Soylent Green" starring Charlatan
Heston? The technology to turn people into food is now an "emergent
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 1:39 pm |
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"2" <noname at (no spam) anon.com> wrote in message
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Quote: "Bill Penrose" <penrose at (no spam) iit.edu> wrote
On May 17, 4:11 pm, "2" <non... at (no spam) anon.com> wrote:
The global food crisis demands that we recycle old ideas.
This month, the 6,666,666,666th person was born on earth.
What the earth needs is a way to turn people into oil.
Please feed my SUV.
DB
The cycle is almost complete. Remember "Soylent Green" starring Charlatan
Heston? The technology to turn people into food is now an "emergent
technology".
Why not just recycle SUV's into guns? That would solve the overpopulation
problem. I presume there is no shotage of bullets. Am I wrong? |
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 1:42 pm |
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Neuron # "2" <noname at (no spam) anon.com> wrote in message
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Quote: "Bill Penrose" <penrose at (no spam) iit.edu> wrote
Neuron # "2" <non... at (no spam) anon.com> wrote:
The global food crisis demands that we recycle old ideas.
hanson wrote:
Your "recycled old idea" under food crisis conditions is
known as "REVOLUTION". You don't wanna be around
when that happens in your own neighborhood.
== Be careful what you wish for -- you just might get it ==
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"Bill Penrose" <penrose at (no spam) iit.edu> wrote to Neuron #2
This month, the 6,666,666,666th person was born on earth.
What the earth needs is a way to turn people into oil.
Please feed my SUV.
DB
Neuron # 2 wrote:
The cycle is almost complete. Remember "Soylent Green" starring Charlatan
Heston? The technology to turn people into food is now an "emergent
technology".
hanson wrote:
ahahahaha.. if Heston was a Charlatan then you are
a little green idiot, a class 3 enviro, of the worst kind.
Tell me now for how many weeks your proposed
cannibalization would furnish food for the starving.
...... ... ... ... until it's their turn on the butcher's block.
Do not watch any movies if they have such a bad
influence on you... especially avoid seeing Al Gore's.
But thanks for the laughs... ahahaha... ahahanson |
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 2:39 pm |
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There's a whole book on this subject.
Synthetic Food
Magnus Pyke
London: John Murray, 1970
New York: St. Martin's Press, 1971 |
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 5:28 pm |
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"Bill Penrose" <penrose at (no spam) iit.edu> wrote in message
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Quote: On May 18, 1:10 pm, nico... at (no spam) hushmail.com wrote:
...The only hope to control population is birth control.
The only acceptable contraception is the pill.
Seems to be working so far...
Homosexuality also works, until partners decide they still want
children.
Also tsunamis, hurricanes / cyclone, earthquakes, war, famine,
pestilence and video games do a pretty good job.
Quote: The chief hindrance to population control is
organized religion.
All major religions oppose birth control. It's bad for
recruitment and political power.
Its bad for a lot of things. Who will take care of you in your
old age, if not someone else's (or your own) grandchildren?
Where does most economic growth come from if not population
growth? If you don't grow new "suckers"; the grifters, thieves,
rapists, and murders can only concentrate on *you*.
All pretty much meaninginless to "Adam and Eve". But we have
obviously passed that point...
If population control is not a viable solution, then what is
left? Expansion from our crib, perhaps?
David A. Smith |
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 11:15 pm |
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nicovar at (no spam) hushmail.com wrote:
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On May 18, 11:39 am, "kiloVolts" <spamt... at (no spam) nospam.com> wrote:
Why not just recycle SUV's into guns? That would solve the overpopulation
problem. I presume there is no shotage of bullets. Am I wrong?- Hide quoted text -
NO! You have all wrong. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
Generally speaking, people with guns.
And, of course, it's not guns that kill people.
It's bullets! Go ahead and give everybody a gun,
just lock up all the bullets!
-- paraphrased from Pat Paulsen |
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