On Apr 30, 2:54 pm, "Bill Habr" <billh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
"Roger Coppock" <rcopp...@adnc.com> wrote in message

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On Apr 30, 8:09 am, "Bill Habr" <billh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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The GISS data are not directly observed but adjusted data.

They are not proxy data, they are directly observed.
Adjustment has nothing to do with this.

What you use are not the observed data but the adjusted data, to not make the
distinction
is to mislead.

That you claim not to know the difference
between directly observed and proxy data,
is either stupidity, or lying just to make
a tempest in a teapot,

On Apr 29, 2:08 pm, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:
Roger Coppock wrote:
The Sunspot Scapegoat
Fossil fools, in their never ending search for something
other than their master's oil and coal products that is
the major cause of global warming, often blame sunspots.
They produce cherry picked proxy series and collections
of anecdotes to try to support this. However, directly
observed data tell a different story. Actual sunspot
count data barely show any correlation with the observed
global land and sea surface temperature from 1880 to
today.
...
Then do you dispute the basis that the Maunder Minimum was in part a
cause of the Little Ice Age?

Yes or No?

Do you dispute that ice cream is the cause of
polo ponies?

Yes or No?

The sun has dimmed slightly over the last several solar cycles (33
years)
while global temperatures have continued to rise.

As for the claim of a recent plateau. Well that is just a lie of
course.

Here are the figures for the last decade.

1998 14.57 *********************o*****
1999 14.33 *****************>>>>o
2000 14.33 *****************>>>>>o
2001 14.48 ************************o
2002 14.56 *************************o**
2003 14.55 **************************o*
2004 14.49 *************************>>o
2005 14.63 *****************************o**
2006 14.54 ***************************>>>o
2007 14.57 *****************************

Showing a warming of roughly 2'C per century...

Whose data set was that ? GISS/NASA? Hadley CRUT? MSU?

ASCII is no way to discuss this.