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Mike Jr.
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 2:30 am
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LOL!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/sci/tech/7376301.stm

How does the BBC manage to keep a straight face?

--Mike Jr.
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Mike Jr.
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 2:59 am
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On May 1, 8:30 am, "Mike Jr." <n00s...@comcast.net> wrote:
Quote:
LOL!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/sci/tech/7376301.stm

How does the BBC manage to keep a straight face?

--Mike Jr.

Extra for experts:
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=18012

--Mike Jr.
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Mike Jr.
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:59 am
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On May 1, 12:09 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
Quote:
"Mike Jr." wrote:

LOL!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/sci/tech/7376301.stm

How does the BBC manage to keep a straight face?

The BBC is cognizant of politically heretical observed fact.

Gore investment body closes $683m fund
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f78fbec2-161b-11dd-880a-0000779fd2ac.html?n...

  (1) Gore launches a major campaign to make society go Green,
posturing himself as on a noble cause to save the planet;
  (2) Gore personally invests in businesses designed to reap profit
from the Green movement.
  (3) Gore is a liar and a crook, and an arbitrageur for the flow
in-between.

Funny how money is always at the bottom.

Quote:

Religion: "WE MUST DO SOMETHING!
Engineering: "We must do something pertinent."

a href="http://www.fourmilab.ch/fourmilog/
 25 April 2008
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/images/longrange/butterfly.jpg

All the social activism in the world plus near-infinite sheaves of
parameterized non-linear differential equations cannot overrule the
implacable reality of mere arithmetic,

http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/arith.htm

(0.99)^4 =  96.06%
(1.01)^4 = 104.06%
=================> 0.12% imbalance (less the mean)

No sunspots --> Ice Age.  That fractional percent is enough to decide
between the Garden of Eden and glaciation.  The test is in progress.

Yes, the test is in progress. Because the oceans are heat sinks it
may take a while for the full effects to show up; one reason why it is
so hard to match up the earth's mean temperature to current sun spot
activity. By analogy, the most energy arrives from the sun at noon
but 2 PM is the hottest part of the day.

See http://icecap.us/images/uploads/ANURGENTSIGNALFORTHECOMINGICEAGE.pdf


Quote:
Patience.  Little fluctuations along the slide do not matter.  BURN
COAL.  Hell, burn anything!  WE'RE GONNA FREEZE!

I hope not. I live outside of Washington, DC so I am counting on the
glaciers not getting this far south. :-)

Quote:

--
Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
 (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
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Paul Cardinale
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:37 am
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On May 1, 10:02 am, "Robert J. Kolker" <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote:
Quote:
Uncle Al wrote:

No sunspots --> Ice Age.  That fractional percent is enough to decide
between the Garden of Eden and glaciation.  The test is in progress.
Patience.  Little fluctuations along the slide do not matter.  BURN
COAL.  Hell, burn anything!  WE'RE GONNA FREEZE!

How about burning environmentalists and liberals?


Well, that would help to reduce their lifetime carbon emissions; so
they ought to be agreeable to it.
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Mike Jr.
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:38 am
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On May 1, 11:36 am, "Robert J. Kolker" <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote:
Quote:
Mike Jr. wrote:
LOL!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/sci/tech/7376301.stm

How does the BBC manage to keep a straight face?

--Mike Jr.

Bottom line. There is no Climate Science. There are a lot of model which
are tailored to fit the data and the point of view of the various parties.

Might be worse than that. See:
http://met.hu/doc/idojaras/vol111001_01.pdf

According to Miskolczi, global climate change modelers relied upon
equations derived in 1922 by Arthur Milne that ignored boundary
conditions by assuming an "infinitely thick" atmosphere. When
Miskolczi corrected for a 100 km thick atmosphere, the predictions
changed - dramatically.

This could be why global change models consistently predict more
warming than actually measured.

See also http://www.ecd.bnl.gov/steve/pubs/HeatCapacity.pdf

--Mike Jr.
-
Quote:

Bob Kolker
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Mike Jr.
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:16 am
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On May 1, 2:38 pm, "Mike Jr." <n00s...@comcast.net> wrote:
Quote:
On May 1, 11:36 am, "Robert J. Kolker" <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote:

Mike Jr. wrote:
LOL!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/sci/tech/7376301.stm

How does the BBC manage to keep a straight face?

--Mike Jr.

Bottom line. There is no Climate Science. There are a lot of model which
are tailored to fit the data and the point of view of the various parties.

Might be worse than that.  See:http://met.hu/doc/idojaras/vol111001_01.pdf

According to Miskolczi, global climate change modelers relied upon
equations derived in 1922 by Arthur Milne that ignored boundary
conditions by assuming an "infinitely thick" atmosphere. When
Miskolczi corrected for a 100 km thick atmosphere, the predictions
changed - dramatically.

Here is a pointer to a presentation given by Dr. Ferenc M. Miskolczi
at 2008 International Conference on Climate Change, New York City, New
York, USA

http://www.heartland.org/newyork08/PowerPoint/Tuesday/miskolczi.pdf

Quote:

This could be why global change models consistently predict more
warming than actually measured.

See alsohttp://www.ecd.bnl.gov/steve/pubs/HeatCapacity.pdf

--Mike Jr.
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Robert J. Kolker
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:35 am
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Mike Jr. wrote:

Quote:
LOL!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/sci/tech/7376301.stm

How does the BBC manage to keep a straight face?

--Mike Jr.

If things cool off it is the fault of the Capitalist Bastards. If things
warm up it is the fault of the Capitalist Bastards. If things don't
change it is the fault of the Capitalist Bastards.

Bob Kolker
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Robert J. Kolker
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:36 am
Guest
Mike Jr. wrote:

Quote:
LOL!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/sci/tech/7376301.stm

How does the BBC manage to keep a straight face?

--Mike Jr.

Bottom line. There is no Climate Science. There are a lot of model which
are tailored to fit the data and the point of view of the various parties.

Bob Kolker
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Uncle Al
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:09 am
Guest
"Mike Jr." wrote:
Quote:

LOL!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/sci/tech/7376301.stm

How does the BBC manage to keep a straight face?

The BBC is cognizant of politically heretical observed fact.

Gore investment body closes $683m fund
<http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f78fbec2-161b-11dd-880a-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1>

(1) Gore launches a major campaign to make society go Green,
posturing himself as on a noble cause to save the planet;
(2) Gore personally invests in businesses designed to reap profit
from the Green movement.
(3) Gore is a liar and a crook, and an arbitrageur for the flow
in-between.

Religion: "WE MUST DO SOMETHING!
Engineering: "We must do something pertinent."

<a href="http://www.fourmilab.ch/fourmilog/>
25 April 2008
<http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/images/longrange/butterfly.jpg>

All the social activism in the world plus near-infinite sheaves of
parameterized non-linear differential equations cannot overrule the
implacable reality of mere arithmetic,

<http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/arith.htm>

(0.99)^4 = 96.06%
(1.01)^4 = 104.06%
==================
0.12% imbalance (less the mean)

No sunspots --> Ice Age. That fractional percent is enough to decide
between the Garden of Eden and glaciation. The test is in progress.
Patience. Little fluctuations along the slide do not matter. BURN
COAL. Hell, burn anything! WE'RE GONNA FREEZE!

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
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tadchem
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:23 am
Guest
On May 1, 12:59 pm, "Mike Jr." <n00s...@comcast.net> wrote:
Quote:
On May 1, 12:09 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:



"Mike Jr." wrote:

LOL!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/sci/tech/7376301.stm

How does the BBC manage to keep a straight face?

The BBC is cognizant of politically heretical observed fact.

Gore investment body closes $683m fund
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f78fbec2-161b-11dd-880a-0000779fd2ac.html?n...

(1) Gore launches a major campaign to make society go Green,
posturing himself as on a noble cause to save the planet;
(2) Gore personally invests in businesses designed to reap profit
from the Green movement.
(3) Gore is a liar and a crook, and an arbitrageur for the flow
in-between.

Funny how money is always at the bottom.





Religion: "WE MUST DO SOMETHING!
Engineering: "We must do something pertinent."

a href="http://www.fourmilab.ch/fourmilog/
25 April 2008
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/images/longrange/butterfly.jpg

All the social activism in the world plus near-infinite sheaves of
parameterized non-linear differential equations cannot overrule the
implacable reality of mere arithmetic,

http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/arith.htm

(0.99)^4 = 96.06%
(1.01)^4 = 104.06%
==================
0.12% imbalance (less the mean)

No sunspots --> Ice Age. That fractional percent is enough to decide
between the Garden of Eden and glaciation. The test is in progress.

Yes, the test is in progress. Because the oceans are heat sinks it
may take a while for the full effects to show up; one reason why it is
so hard to match up the earth's mean temperature to current sun spot
activity. By analogy, the most energy arrives from the sun at noon
but 2 PM is the hottest part of the day.

Seehttp://icecap.us/images/uploads/ANURGENTSIGNALFORTHECOMINGICEAGE.pdf

Patience. Little fluctuations along the slide do not matter. BURN
COAL. Hell, burn anything! WE'RE GONNA FREEZE!

I hope not. I live outside of Washington, DC so I am counting on the
glaciers not getting this far south. :-)



--
Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2

You will please let us know when they get to you, I hope. I live down
I-95 in Richmond, and I could use a little head start (I can't run as
fast as I used to). :-)

Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
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Robert J. Kolker
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 12:02 pm
Guest
Uncle Al wrote:



Quote:

No sunspots --> Ice Age. That fractional percent is enough to decide
between the Garden of Eden and glaciation. The test is in progress.
Patience. Little fluctuations along the slide do not matter. BURN
COAL. Hell, burn anything! WE'RE GONNA FREEZE!

How about burning environmentalists and liberals?

Bob Kolker

>
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Robert J. Kolker
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 2:23 pm
Guest
Paul Cardinale wrote:

Quote:
Well, that would help to reduce their lifetime carbon emissions; so
they ought to be agreeable to it.

Cut off their feet and reduce their carbon footpring.

Bob Kolker
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Mike Jr.
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:23 pm
Guest
On May 1, 5:23 pm, tadchem <tadc...@comcast.net> wrote:
Quote:
On May 1, 12:59 pm, "Mike Jr." <n00s...@comcast.net> wrote:



On May 1, 12:09 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:

"Mike Jr." wrote:

LOL!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/sci/tech/7376301.stm

How does the BBC manage to keep a straight face?

The BBC is cognizant of politically heretical observed fact.

Gore investment body closes $683m fund
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f78fbec2-161b-11dd-880a-0000779fd2ac.html?n...

(1) Gore launches a major campaign to make society go Green,
posturing himself as on a noble cause to save the planet;
(2) Gore personally invests in businesses designed to reap profit
from the Green movement.
(3) Gore is a liar and a crook, and an arbitrageur for the flow
in-between.

Funny how money is always at the bottom.

Religion: "WE MUST DO SOMETHING!
Engineering: "We must do something pertinent."

a href="http://www.fourmilab.ch/fourmilog/
25 April 2008
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/images/longrange/butterfly.jpg

All the social activism in the world plus near-infinite sheaves of
parameterized non-linear differential equations cannot overrule the
implacable reality of mere arithmetic,

http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/arith.htm

(0.99)^4 = 96.06%
(1.01)^4 = 104.06%
==================
0.12% imbalance (less the mean)

No sunspots --> Ice Age. That fractional percent is enough to decide
between the Garden of Eden and glaciation. The test is in progress.

Yes, the test is in progress. Because the oceans are heat sinks it
may take a while for the full effects to show up; one reason why it is
so hard to match up the earth's mean temperature to current sun spot
activity. By analogy, the most energy arrives from the sun at noon
but 2 PM is the hottest part of the day.

Seehttp://icecap.us/images/uploads/ANURGENTSIGNALFORTHECOMINGICEAGE.pdf

Patience. Little fluctuations along the slide do not matter. BURN
COAL. Hell, burn anything! WE'RE GONNA FREEZE!

I hope not. I live outside of Washington, DC so I am counting on the
glaciers not getting this far south. :-)

--
Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2

You will please let us know when they get to you, I hope. I live down
I-95 in Richmond, and I could use a little head start (I can't run as
fast as I used to). Smile

Me neither but I promise to give a holler if I see one rolling down
I-95.

--Mike Jr.

Quote:

Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
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