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| Duan Vukoti |
 Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:56 am |
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http://www.jat.com/active/en/home/main_menu/travel_info/jat_review/fabruar_2006/homolje.html
The rough meaning of Gon-Bel-Gon is "roundness, round heap, clod,
cloud, ample, oval object, egg-like" etc. Gon-Bel is a part of my HSF
Xur-Bel-Gon "well-spring" or "generator" of speech. Bel-Gon form is
intrinsically connected to the sun and to the sun-divinity - Bel (Zeus
Belos, Jupiter Belus; Celtic divinity Bel, Semitic divinity Bel,
Belanus etc.). There is an enormous number of words that are derived
from Gon-Bel-Gon basis, where the syllable Gon represents any kind of
movement (phisical as well as mental). Maybe the ancient people
realized that the whole life BEGAN thanks to the sun's activity; so we
could say that "in the beginning was the sun beam" instead of
biblical "word". Probably, it is the reason why we have words "begin"
- Serb. početak, počinjati, pogoniti, polaziti /begin/, Lat. pello,
pellare, pulsus, Gr. βαινω; βάσις /any basis is a "beginning"/;
επικινέω /to be moved/, πολυ-κίνητος, αποκινέω /remove/; Ger.
Beginn, Anfang /beginning/.
Following the above logic of the "beginning" we can easily understand
the further "branching" of words and their meanings: pello => expell,
pulso => expulsio => explosion; Serb. polaziti/pogoniti (start to go;
Beginn), poleteti (fly; Ger. Fliegen; iz-leteti from iz-(po)leteti,
aus-fliegen), ispaliti (shoot); pogoniti (drive) => puknuti (explode).
Nevertheless, let us go back to the "basic" meaning of Gon-Bel-Gon -
roundness, heap! While comparing English heap (Ger. Haufe), inhabit
and heaven with the Slavic words zemlja (earth), gomila (heap; also
known in its metathesized form "mogila"), nebo (heaven, sky) and selo
(village) we can hardly understand the exact relation among all these
word, especially if we try to solve this problem using the standard
linguistic methods. Although the Slavic word zemlja (earth) and
English heaven have different but similar "roots" (g^hðem- and *ke-
men-; Germanic *hibin-, *himin-), there is a small chance that anyone
would say that "zemlja" and "heaven" originated from the same
"source". Everybody can see that English "heap" has a close meaning to
"accumulation", but there are rare people who are able to understand
that this words are the closest cognates. Is there any possibility to
prove that "accumulation" is closely related to "hamlet", "home" and
Serbian "selo" (village)? Who would ever believe you if you said that
English "home" is related to Slavic "dom" or that Latin humus (ground,
earth, soil; cf. Serb. hum /mound/, humka /tomb/) is a counterpart
word for Slavic "gomila" (heap; mogila) and "zemlja" (earth).
Latin globus (globe, ball) is the cognate of the Serbian word lopta
(ball), but if we compare Serb. lopta and Lat. globus with words as
Serb. oblina (roundness; from h/oblina) or M. Lat. ovalis (egg-like;
Lat. volubilitas, probably from h/uolubilita; cf. Serb. uobliti /make
round/) we shall clearly see that all this words are derived from the
Gon-Bel-Gon basis.
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| VK |
| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:14 pm |
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On Apr 29, 8:21 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote:
Quote: It turns out that he operates strictly on semantic similarity and has
no interest in surface form at all.
He does, but in his very particular way: "die Sprache spricht" with
him. I already once mentioned possible grounds of his writings at
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.lang/msg/e2de51919be1c971
This way his etymology is not an explanation of the current form out
of previous sources. His etymology is an explanation of the current
form as a reflection of the "unpacking senses" of the infospace.
The often source of irritation with Dusan is that he still cannot take
a decision what does he want to be: a philosopher or a PIE specialist.
Sometimes he changes his mind several times on the run of a single
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:49 pm |
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On Apr 30, 11:14 am, VK <schools_r...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: The often source of irritation with Dusan is that he still cannot take
a decision what does he want to be: a philosopher or a PIE specialist.
Sometimes he changes his mind several times on the run of a single
post.
It would be nice if he could make up his mind and go into philosophy.
That's where all the kooks should head anyway. They would fit in well,
nobody would see any difference between them and the average academic.
But then, it is possible that they all started there... |
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| Duan Vukoti |
| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:15 am |
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On Apr 30, 10:14am, VK <schools_r...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: On Apr 29, 8:21 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote:
It turns out that he operates strictly on semantic similarity and has
no interest in surface form at all.
He does, but in his very particular way: "die Sprache spricht" with
him. I already once mentioned possible grounds of his writings athttp://groups.google.com/group/sci.lang/msg/e2de51919be1c971
This way his etymology is not an explanation of the current form out
of previous sources. His etymology is an explanation of the current
form as a reflection of the "unpacking senses" of the infospace.
The often source of irritation with Dusan is that he still cannot take
a decision what does he want to be: a philosopher or a PIE specialist.
Sometimes he changes his mind several times on the run of a single
post.
VK would you mind telling us your name and gander. Where are you from?
I hope you are not ashamed of your mental and physical appearance.
Generally, I do not like to "debate" with "nameless" people. Even if
you do not want to be "recognized" as a man of flesh and blood, you
can still chose some other (fake) human name instad of these ghostlike
VK initials.
I see you are obssesed with Nalimov (the post you indicated above) and
his crappy philosophy. What is the meaning of "infospace" and, do you
know what the syntagm "unpacked senses" is aiming at? If Nalimov had
not been the "enemy" of the "Evil Empire" nobody in the West would
have ever heard of him. He made his own kind of psycho-philosophical
"borshch" of Jung's "collective unconscious" and Heideger's "unhidden"
and "hidden" (senses, dimensions or godknowswhat).
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