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| Brad Velander |
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:46 pm |
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Hi Peter,
What about all of the ini and rcs files that reside in the WINDOWS
directory? I would think that Vista would restrict them also and you can't
very well move them. Just wondering if you have heard anything about them or
are they okay because it's the program accesses/writes them?
From everything I have heard or read I certainly hope to never upgrade
to Vista.
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Sincerely,
Brad Velander.
"Peter Bennett" <peterbb@somewhere.invalid> wrote in message
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Quote: On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:45:16 GMT, "Rodo" <noway@youwish.com> wrote:
I couldn't find the setting for the folder library in Protel so I'm tring
to
change the permission but ... there are sooooo many of them is ...
annoying.
So far I've changed the Protel security settings inside Program Files and
no
luck. The folder is set to read-only. I changed that but it keeps
defaulting
to read-only.... ARGH! ... as I said .... annoying. I'll let you know what
happens later.
As far as I know, Protel doesn't have any setting for file locations -
whenever I want to open a file of any sort, Protel just starts looking
in the last directory I used. If the last file I opened was a drawing
in c:\My Documents\Projects\ and I want to open a library, I have to
navigate from that directory to C:\Program Files\Protel\Libraries\Sch.
From my very limited understanding of Vista, you _will_ have to move
the library files out of C:\Program Files\...
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Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
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| Rodo |
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:18 am |
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[snip]
Quote: Let's see, control panel, user accounts , clear check box, restart, wait
for reboot .... run Protel, add library and .... ARGH!... Nope, that
didn't work either.
Thanks
really, Maybe you're over looking something because i know it works.
Did you go and check to make sure the folders were not read only
afterwards ?
Yeap. They're not read-only.
Quote: Did you check the UAC to make sure the took place after reboot ?
Yeap. There is an icon in the tray bar warning me about it.
Quote: P.S.
It's very possible a install that went bad when the access was
set to read only .?
dunno!
Quote: Or you need to reconfigure the program?
Not fun.
Quote: Are we really trying hard enough?
???
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| Rodo |
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:20 am |
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"Peter Bennett" <peterbb@somewhere.invalid> wrote in message
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Quote: On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:45:16 GMT, "Rodo" <noway@youwish.com> wrote:
I couldn't find the setting for the folder library in Protel so I'm tring
to
change the permission but ... there are sooooo many of them is ...
annoying.
So far I've changed the Protel security settings inside Program Files and
no
luck. The folder is set to read-only. I changed that but it keeps
defaulting
to read-only.... ARGH! ... as I said .... annoying. I'll let you know what
happens later.
As far as I know, Protel doesn't have any setting for file locations -
whenever I want to open a file of any sort, Protel just starts looking
in the last directory I used. If the last file I opened was a drawing
in c:\My Documents\Projects\ and I want to open a library, I have to
navigate from that directory to C:\Program Files\Protel\Libraries\Sch.
From my very limited understanding of Vista, you _will_ have to move
the library files out of C:\Program Files\...
I did. I put them under my user name account "Documents". It didn't work.
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| Rodo |
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:24 am |
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"Brad Velander" <bveland@SpamThis.com> wrote in message
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Quote: Hi Peter,
What about all of the ini and rcs files that reside in the WINDOWS
directory? I would think that Vista would restrict them also and you can't
very well move them. Just wondering if you have heard anything about them
or are they okay because it's the program accesses/writes them?
From everything I have heard or read I certainly hope to never upgrade
to Vista.
Try to get a new computer without Vista. Not impossible but it would cost
you a few more bucks for the XP installation if available. I bought this
laptop in the summer of 2007 and the only place I found offering WinXP was
Gateway2K ... for an extra $200 of course. I imagine now is nearly
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| David Brown |
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:25 am |
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Rodo wrote:
Quote: "Peter Bennett" <peterbb@somewhere.invalid> wrote in message
news:34g914980gs7sdh81dntchinel3t83fgd6@news.supernews.com...
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:45:16 GMT, "Rodo" <noway@youwish.com> wrote:
I couldn't find the setting for the folder library in Protel so I'm tring
to
change the permission but ... there are sooooo many of them is ...
annoying.
So far I've changed the Protel security settings inside Program Files and
no
luck. The folder is set to read-only. I changed that but it keeps
defaulting
to read-only.... ARGH! ... as I said .... annoying. I'll let you know what
happens later.
As far as I know, Protel doesn't have any setting for file locations -
whenever I want to open a file of any sort, Protel just starts looking
in the last directory I used. If the last file I opened was a drawing
in c:\My Documents\Projects\ and I want to open a library, I have to
navigate from that directory to C:\Program Files\Protel\Libraries\Sch.
From my very limited understanding of Vista, you _will_ have to move
the library files out of C:\Program Files\...
I did. I put them under my user name account "Documents". It didn't work.
Thanks
I don't use Vista (we tell our computer supplier to stick to XP for
desktops and blank for servers (I prefer to set up Linux myself), so
it's their problem to find a manufacturer that provides XP. There are
actually more that provide XP now than about six months ago.)
However, I had the same problem years ago when I tried to install a
single copy of Protel on a server. It's not the schematic library files
that are the problem - its parts of the program files themselves that
need to be writeable. Don't ask me why - Protel doesn't actually write
to the files, but it opens some in writeable mode.
Try installing the whole suite again, but this time to a directory
completely outside of Program Files, Documents and Settings, or any
other windows-specific directory (I put virtually nothing inside these
directories). |
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| Brad Velander |
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:45 am |
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David,
Not sure if you are talking about the same files I mentioned but Protel
does definitely write to the .ini and .rcs files in the Windows directory.
That is where they store all of their configuration and options details for
each particular functional module, i.e. schematic, pcb, router, synthesis,
etc.. Just run a search for *99SE.* and you will find them, approx. 17 files
in the Windows directory and approx. 4 other config/ini type files scattered
elsewhere.
But no matter where you install the software, the install will put these
files right into the Windows directory everytime. And it wouldn't know where
they are if they could be put elsewhere.
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Sincerely,
Brad Velander.
"David Brown" <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> wrote in message
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Quote: Rodo wrote:
"Peter Bennett" <peterbb@somewhere.invalid> wrote in message
news:34g914980gs7sdh81dntchinel3t83fgd6@news.supernews.com...
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:45:16 GMT, "Rodo" <noway@youwish.com> wrote:
I couldn't find the setting for the folder library in Protel so I'm
tring to
change the permission but ... there are sooooo many of them is ...
annoying.
So far I've changed the Protel security settings inside Program Files
and no
luck. The folder is set to read-only. I changed that but it keeps
defaulting
to read-only.... ARGH! ... as I said .... annoying. I'll let you know
what
happens later.
As far as I know, Protel doesn't have any setting for file locations -
whenever I want to open a file of any sort, Protel just starts looking
in the last directory I used. If the last file I opened was a drawing
in c:\My Documents\Projects\ and I want to open a library, I have to
navigate from that directory to C:\Program Files\Protel\Libraries\Sch.
From my very limited understanding of Vista, you _will_ have to move
the library files out of C:\Program Files\...
I did. I put them under my user name account "Documents". It didn't work.
Thanks
I don't use Vista (we tell our computer supplier to stick to XP for
desktops and blank for servers (I prefer to set up Linux myself), so it's
their problem to find a manufacturer that provides XP. There are actually
more that provide XP now than about six months ago.)
However, I had the same problem years ago when I tried to install a single
copy of Protel on a server. It's not the schematic library files that are
the problem - its parts of the program files themselves that need to be
writeable. Don't ask me why - Protel doesn't actually write to the files,
but it opens some in writeable mode.
Try installing the whole suite again, but this time to a directory
completely outside of Program Files, Documents and Settings, or any other
windows-specific directory (I put virtually nothing inside these
directories).
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| David Brown |
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:31 am |
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Brad Velander wrote:
Quote: David,
Not sure if you are talking about the same files I mentioned but Protel
does definitely write to the .ini and .rcs files in the Windows directory.
That is where they store all of their configuration and options details for
each particular functional module, i.e. schematic, pcb, router, synthesis,
etc.. Just run a search for *99SE.* and you will find them, approx. 17 files
in the Windows directory and approx. 4 other config/ini type files scattered
elsewhere.
But no matter where you install the software, the install will put these
files right into the Windows directory everytime. And it wouldn't know where
they are if they could be put elsewhere.
Yes, the ini and rcs files always go in the windows directory. I'm
talking about the program files themselves - the exe and dll files, and
other files in those directories. Protel needs write access to those
files and directories (don't ask me why). |
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| TT_Man |
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:52 am |
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"David Brown" <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> wrote in message
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Quote: Brad Velander wrote:
David,
Not sure if you are talking about the same files I mentioned but
Protel does definitely write to the .ini and .rcs files in the Windows
directory. That is where they store all of their configuration and
options details for each particular functional module, i.e. schematic,
pcb, router, synthesis, etc.. Just run a search for *99SE.* and you will
find them, approx. 17 files in the Windows directory and approx. 4 other
config/ini type files scattered elsewhere.
But no matter where you install the software, the install will put
these files right into the Windows directory everytime. And it wouldn't
know where they are if they could be put elsewhere.
Yes, the ini and rcs files always go in the windows directory. I'm
talking about the program files themselves - the exe and dll files, and
other files in those directories. Protel needs write access to those
files and directories (don't ask me why).
They go where you install the software. Mine is installed at C:/CLIENT. His
is probably installed in C/program files/protel99se |
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