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0NBZ0
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:26 pm
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Lawrence Solomon

April 26, 2008



http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2008/04/26/the-real-climate-martians-solomon.aspx



Fred Singer, one of the world's renowned scientists, believes in
Martians. I discovered this several weeks ago while reading his
biography on Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia. "Do you really believe
in Martians?" I asked him last week, at a chance meeting at a Washington
event. The answer was "No."



Wikipedia's error was neither isolated nor inadvertent. The page that
Wikipedia devotes to what is ostensibly Fred Singer's biography is
designed to trivialize his long and outstanding scientific career by
painting him as a political partisan and someone who "is best known as
president and founder (in 1990) of the Science & Environmental Policy
Project, which disputes the prevailing scientific views of climate
change, ozone depletion, and second-hand smoke and is science advisor to
the conservative journal NewsMax."



Innocent Wikipedia readers would be surprised to learn that Dr. Singer
is no conservative kook but the first director of the U.S. National
Weather Satellite Center; the recipient of a White House commendation
for his early design of space satellites; the recipient of a
commendation from the National Aeronautics and Space Administration for
research on particle clouds; and the recipient of a U.S. Department of
Commerce Gold Medal Award for the development and management of weather
satellites.

He is, in short, a scientist of the highest calibre, with a long list of
major scientific achievements, including the first measurements, with
V-2 and Aerobee rockets, of primary cosmic radiation in space, the
design of the first instruments for measuring ozone, and the authorship
of the first publications predicting the existence of trapped radiation
in the earth's magnetic field to explain the magnetic-storm ring
current.

Honest accounts of Fred Singer and his accomplishments have been
available on Wikipedia, and on hundreds of occasions. Those occasions
don't last long, however - often just minutes - before the honest
accounts are discovered and reverted by Wikipedians who troll the site.
Such trolls continually monitor Wikipedia's 10 million pages to erase
any hint that the science is not settled on climate change. Dissenters
by the dozens have been likewise demeaned - to check for yourself, just
look up Richard Lindzen, Paul Reiter, or any of the other scientists or
organizations that have questioned the orthodoxy on climate change.

In contrast to the high-handed treatment that greet global warming
skeptics, those who support the orthodoxy are puffed up and protected
from criticism, their errors erased and their controversies hushed.

This is the case with Naomi Oreskes, a scientist with a PhD who had
arrived at an absurd finding: That no studies in a major scientific
database questioned the UN view of climate change. To bolster her
standing, those who troll for Wikipedia have done their best to dress up
her CV - they note that she won a National Science Foundation's Young
Investigator Award in 1994, that she has been a consultant for various
government agencies, and that in July she will become provost of an
as-yet unnamed college of the University of California, San Diego. While
these accomplishments are nothing to sneeze at, she is no Fred Singer.

In any event, her Wikipedia page is not really about her but her study,
which has been thoroughly discredited by credible journalists and
scientists. To suppress these critiques, the trollers apply Wikipedia's
bewildering rules as to what can and can't appear, and when the rules
are inadequate, the trollers make up new ones on the fly.

Several weeks ago, as I described in an earlier column, I attempted to
correct passages on the Oreskes page that would lead readers to think
her study had been vindicated and also to think that U.K. scientist
Benny Peiser, one of her critics, had abjectly withdrawn his criticisms.
Wikipedia's rules thwarted me, used to revert my corrections, again and
again. Those who came before me in attempting to make corrections, and,
I would find out, those who came after, were similarly thwarted.

Wikipedia refused to accept Peiser's critique, or his interpretation of
his own views, or an account of his views that he had provided to me, or
an account of his views published in a peer-reviewed journal, or an
account of his views published in The Wall Street Journal, or an account
of his views published by the U.S. Senate committee on environment and
public works.

Instead, the Wikipedia trollers insisted that all of the above sources
were disqualified or irrelevant under Wikipedia rules, and that the
trollers' own understanding of Peiser's views trumped all others.

Just as the trollers insist on characterizing Fred Singer as believing
in Martians. When it is the Wickipedian trollers who are from Mars.
--



Warmest Regards

Bonzo


"America in Longest Warm Spell Since 1776; Temperature Line Records a
25-year Rise" New York Times, March 27, 1933
Lloyd
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:47 am
Guest
On Apr 28, 10:26 pm, "0NBZ0" <0N...@doooooooooooooooodoooooooooo.com>
wrote:
Quote:
Lawrence Solomon

April 26, 2008

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2008/04/26...

Fred Singer, one of the world's renowned scientists, believes in
Martians. I discovered this several weeks ago while reading his
biography on Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia. "Do you really believe
in Martians?" I asked him last week, at a chance meeting at a Washington
event. The answer was "No."

Wikipedia's error was neither isolated nor inadvertent. The page that
Wikipedia devotes to what is ostensibly Fred Singer's biography is
designed to trivialize his long and outstanding scientific career by
painting him as a political partisan and someone who "is best known as
president and founder (in 1990) of the Science & Environmental Policy
Project, which disputes the prevailing scientific views of climate
change, ozone depletion, and second-hand smoke and is science advisor to
the conservative journal NewsMax."

Innocent Wikipedia readers would be surprised to learn that Dr. Singer
is no conservative kook but the first director of the U.S. National
Weather Satellite Center; the recipient of a White House commendation
for his early design of space satellites; the recipient of a
commendation from the National Aeronautics and Space Administration for
research on particle clouds; and the recipient of a U.S. Department of
Commerce Gold Medal Award for the development and management of weather
satellites.

He misrepresented himself as speaking on behalf of the NAS --
unethical. He claims smoking does not cause cancer -- either stupid
or prostitution.

Quote:
He is, in short, a scientist of the highest calibre, with a long list of
major scientific achievements, including the first measurements, with
V-2 and Aerobee rockets, of primary cosmic radiation in space, the
design of the first instruments for measuring ozone, and the authorship
of the first publications predicting the existence of trapped radiation
in the earth's magnetic field to explain the magnetic-storm ring
current.

Honest accounts of Fred Singer and his accomplishments have been
available on Wikipedia, and on hundreds of occasions. Those occasions
don't last long, however - often just minutes - before the honest
accounts are discovered and reverted by Wikipedians who troll the site.
Such trolls continually monitor Wikipedia's 10 million pages to erase
any hint that the science is not settled on climate change. Dissenters
by the dozens have been likewise demeaned - to check for yourself, just
look up Richard Lindzen, Paul Reiter, or any of the other scientists or
organizations that have questioned the orthodoxy on climate change.


How about ones who support dowsing?

Quote:
In contrast to the high-handed treatment that greet global warming
skeptics, those who support the orthodoxy are puffed up and protected
from criticism, their errors erased and their controversies hushed.

This is the case with Naomi Oreskes, a scientist with a PhD who had
arrived at an absurd finding: That no studies in a major scientific
database questioned the UN view of climate change. To bolster her
standing, those who troll for Wikipedia have done their best to dress up
her CV - they note that she won a National Science Foundation's Young
Investigator Award in 1994, that she has been a consultant for various
government agencies, and that in July she will become provost of an
as-yet unnamed college of the University of California, San Diego. While
these accomplishments are nothing to sneeze at, she is no Fred Singer.

In any event, her Wikipedia page is not really about her but her study,
which has been thoroughly discredited by credible journalists and
scientists. To suppress these critiques, the trollers apply Wikipedia's
bewildering rules as to what can and can't appear, and when the rules
are inadequate, the trollers make up new ones on the fly.

Several weeks ago, as I described in an earlier column, I attempted to
correct passages on the Oreskes page that would lead readers to think
her study had been vindicated and also to think that U.K. scientist
Benny Peiser, one of her critics, had abjectly withdrawn his criticisms.
Wikipedia's rules thwarted me, used to revert my corrections, again and
again. Those who came before me in attempting to make corrections, and,
I would find out, those who came after, were similarly thwarted.

Wikipedia refused to accept Peiser's critique, or his interpretation of
his own views, or an account of his views that he had provided to me, or
an account of his views published in a peer-reviewed journal, or an
account of his views published in The Wall Street Journal, or an account
of his views published by the U.S. Senate committee on environment and
public works.

Translation -- a far-right wing Republican and a far-right wing
newspaper.

Quote:

Instead, the Wikipedia trollers insisted that all of the above sources
were disqualified or irrelevant under Wikipedia rules, and that the
trollers' own understanding of Peiser's views trumped all others.

Just as the trollers insist on characterizing Fred Singer as believing
in Martians. When it is the Wickipedian trollers who are from Mars.
--

Warmest Regards


Uh, Science stands behind Oreski.

Where are YOUR scientific sources? You cite blogs, newspapers, etc.
Never any science. You are pathetic.

Quote:
Bonzo

"America in Longest Warm Spell Since 1776; Temperature Line Records a
25-year Rise" New York Times, March 27, 1933
Roger Coppock
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:17 am
Guest
On Apr 28, 7:26 pm, "0NBZ0" <0N...@doooooooooooooooodoooooooooo.com>
wrote:
Quote:
Lawrence Solomon

April 26, 2008

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2008/04/26...

Fred Singer, one of the world's renowned scientists, believes in
Martians. I discovered this several weeks ago while reading his
biography on Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia. "Do you really believe
in Martians?" I asked him last week, at a chance meeting at a Washington
event. The answer was "No."

Wikipedia's error was neither isolated nor inadvertent. The page that
Wikipedia devotes to what is ostensibly Fred Singer's biography is
designed to trivialize his long and outstanding scientific career by
painting him as a political partisan and someone who "is best known as


Now, an encyclopedia is biased?
What's next, the telephone book?

To the truly paranoid, even reality is a conspiracy.
Ouroboros_Rex
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:34 pm
Guest
0NBZ0 wrote:
Quote:
Lawrence Solomon

April 26, 2008



http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2008/04/26/the-real-climate-martians-solomon.aspx



Fred Singer, one of the world's renowned scientists,

ROFLMMFAO
0BZN0
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:32 pm
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"Roger Coppock" <rcoppock@adnc.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 28, 7:26 pm, "0NBZ0" <0N...@doooooooooooooooodoooooooooo.com>
wrote:
Quote:
Lawrence Solomon

April 26, 2008

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2008/04/26...

Fred Singer, one of the world's renowned scientists, believes in
Martians. I discovered this several weeks ago while reading his
biography on Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia. "Do you really
believe
in Martians?" I asked him last week, at a chance meeting at a
Washington
event. The answer was "No."
Wikipedia's error was neither isolated nor inadvertent. The page that
Wikipedia devotes to what is ostensibly Fred Singer's biography is
designed to trivialize his long and outstanding scientific career by
painting him as a political partisan and someone who "is best known as
Now, an encyclopedia is biased?

What's next, the telephone book?
******************


ROTFLMAO
An "encyclopaedia" "edited" by loony, leftie, socialist, AGW zealots is
not biassed????
Telephone books are not freely "edited" by loonies!
ROTFLMAO





Warmest Regards

Bonzo


"America in Longest Warm Spell Since 1776; Temperature Line Records a
25-year Rise" New York Times, March 27, 1933
V-for-Vendicar
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:12 pm
Guest
"0NBZ0" <0NBZ0@doooooooooooooooodoooooooooo.com> wrote
Quote:
Lawrence Solomon
April 26, 2008
http://network.nationalpost.com

If you read it in Conrad Black's (Convicted Felon) National Post, you know
it's a lie.

Here, let me demonstrate.... Line 1

Quote:
Fred Singer, one of the world's renowned scientists

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahha

First line is a lie. Singer has never been a renouned scientist. Fuck,
he has barely been a scientist.

MMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNN
V-for-Vendicar
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:14 pm
Guest
"Roger Coppock" <rcoppock@adnc.com> wrote
Quote:
Now, an encyclopedia is biased?
What's next, the telephone book?

WikiPedia is #10 on Bonzo's list of Communist Conspirators.


A current list of the stated Global Warming Conspirators.


01) The New York Times
02) Virtually Every Scientist on earth
03) all of the scientific press, both journals and textbooks
04) All Environmentalists
05) the vast majority of anyone with an advanced degree
06) the UN
07) the IPCC
0Cool All professional scientific societies, but the Petroleum Institute
09) U.S. Defense Department
10) Wikipedia
11) The World Meteorological Organization (WMO)
12) The National Auronautics and Space Administration (NASA)
13) The British Antarctic Survey
14) The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)
15) Realclimate.org
16) The Hadley Center
17) The Royal Society
1Cool The Royal Astronomical Society
19) The National Academy of Sciences
20) The American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS)
21) The American Physical Society
22) The American Institute of Physics
23) The Woods Hole Research Centre
24) The American Chemical Society (ACS)
25) The American Geophysical Union (AGU)
26) The U.S. Geophysical Service (USGS)
27) The National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR)
2Cool The National Resources Defense Council (NRDC)
29) The Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS)
30) The National Wildlife Federation (NWF)
31) The World Wildlife Federation (WWF)
32) The Audubon Society
33) The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)
34) Accuweather
35) Greenpiece
36) The world Conservation Union
37) The Sierra Club.
3Cool The board and article reviewers of the journal Nature
39) The board and article reviewers of the journal Science
40) The staff of Scientific American magazine
41) The staff of New Scientist Magazine.
42) The Queen of England
43) Michael Gorbachev
44) Maurece Strong
45) Bill Gates
46) Ted Turner
47) Warren Buffet
4Cool Rupert Murdoch
49) Bill Moyers
50) Dr. David Suzuki
51) Stephen Hawking
52) ABC News
53) NBC News
54) CBS News
55) The Public Broadcasting system

56) And lets not forget - Al Gore.
V-for-Vendicar
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:33 pm
Guest
"0BZN0" <0BZN0@ddo.com> wrote
Quote:
An "encyclopaedia" "edited" by loony, leftie, socialist, AGW zealots is
not biassed????


A current list of the stated Global Warming Conspirators.


01) The New York Times
02) Virtually Every Scientist on earth
03) all of the scientific press, both journals and textbooks
04) All Environmentalists
05) the vast majority of anyone with an advanced degree
06) the UN
07) the IPCC
0Cool All professional scientific societies, but the Petroleum Institute
09) U.S. Defense Department
10) Wikipedia
11) The World Meteorological Organization (WMO)
12) The National Auronautics and Space Administration (NASA)
13) The British Antarctic Survey
14) The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)
15) Realclimate.org
16) The Hadley Center
17) The Royal Society
1Cool The Royal Astronomical Society
19) The National Academy of Sciences
20) The American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS)
21) The American Physical Society
22) The American Institute of Physics
23) The Woods Hole Research Centre
24) The American Chemical Society (ACS)
25) The American Geophysical Union (AGU)
26) The U.S. Geophysical Service (USGS)
27) The National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR)
2Cool The National Resources Defense Council (NRDC)
29) The Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS)
30) The National Wildlife Federation (NWF)
31) The World Wildlife Federation (WWF)
32) The Audubon Society
33) The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)
34) Accuweather
35) Greenpiece
36) The world Conservation Union
37) The Sierra Club.
3Cool The board and article reviewers of the journal Nature
39) The board and article reviewers of the journal Science
40) The staff of Scientific American magazine
41) The staff of New Scientist Magazine.
42) The Queen of England
43) Michael Gorbachev
44) Maurece Strong
45) Bill Gates
46) Ted Turner
47) Warren Buffet
4Cool Rupert Murdoch
49) Bill Moyers
50) Dr. David Suzuki
51) Stephen Hawking
52) ABC News
53) NBC News
54) CBS News
55) The Public Broadcasting system

56) And lets not forget - Al Gore.
 
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