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0NBZ0
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:42 pm
Guest
April 22, 2008



http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/warming_worriers_snowed_under/



So how did global warmenists in Canada celebrate Earth Day?:



So much for global warming. Earth Day festivities went ahead despite the
blast of frigid weather yesterday. Vendors and presenters from various
eco-friendly groups, including Bullfrog Power, CO2 Reduction Edmonton
and the local solar energy society, crammed into a lone tent in Hawrelak
Park after a blizzard forced them to abandon their original locations.



That was Edmonton.



At Vancouver:



The flakes that fell across the Vancouver region Friday night and
Saturday represent the latest snowfall ever on record.



But the warmeners refused to let the weather have the last say in this
debate:



"Obviously we'll have fewer people than we would have liked, but to
cancel an Earth Day event because of weather would kind of be the
antithesis of what this is all about," said organizer Janice Boudreau.



Lorne Gunter would be glad. He was so looking forward to the show, even
as the show started to fall:



In the past, Edmonton's one-day Earth Day has been one of the biggest
enviro-festivals in the country. So perhaps scores of local advocacy
groups and "green" businesses managed to erect their tents and displays,
and tens of thousands of Edmontonians trudged through knee-deep snow to
visit them, eat "Earth-friendly food" and sit in on lectures about stuff
like composting your own human waste and applying used engine oil as a
night-time facial moisturizer.



But it seems the weather is just not doing what all the climate models
predicted. Gunter again:



Indeed, if you use 1998 as the base year, the Earth has cooled in the
last decade. Even if you use 2002 as Year Zero, there has been no
discernable warming. We have entered a "temperature plateau" so far this
decade. Even Rajendra Pachauri, chairman of the Intergovernmental Panel
on Climate Change, grudgingly had to admit as much a couple of months
ago.



Talking with Britain's Guardian newspaper in January, Dr. Pachauri
admitted he and the UN climate body he heads are looking into the
flat-lining temperatures. All the computer models of climate say we
should still be warming, but we're not.



UPDATE

Meanwhile, a calm exposition from Professor Bob Carter on whether global
warming has been cancelled:



And here is the impressive list of signatories so far to the Manhattan
Declaration that Carter helped to draft, which among other things
asserts:



that there is no convincing evidence that CO2 emissions from modern
industrial activity has in the past, is now, or will in the future cause
catastrophic climate change.
--







Warmest Regards

Bonzo


The Fourth Report of the IPCC might just as well decree the
suppression of all climatology textbooks, and replace them in our
schools with press communiqués. ... Day after day, the same mantra -
that 'the Earth is warming up' - is churned out in all its forms. As
'the
ice melts' and 'sea level rises' the Apocalypse looms ever nearer!
Without realizing it, or perhaps without wishing to, the average
citizen in bamboozled, lobotomized, and lulled into mindless acceptance.
.... Non-believers in the greenhouse scenario are in the
position of those long ago who doubted the existence of God ...
Marcel Leroux

It should be abundantly clear by now that the AGW hypothesis is
contradicted by the facts/measurements/observations and should
therefore be abandoned and be substituted by a hypothesis which
better matches the facts.
- Hans Labohm
Lloyd
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:19 am
Guest
On Apr 21, 9:42 pm, "0NBZ0" <0N...@doooooooooooooooodoooooooooo.com>
wrote:
Quote:
April 22, 2008

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/com...

So how did global warmenists in Canada celebrate Earth Day?:

So much for global warming. Earth Day festivities went ahead despite the
blast of frigid weather yesterday.

Hmmm... in the upper 70s here.

Quote:
Vendors and presenters from various
eco-friendly groups, including Bullfrog Power, CO2 Reduction Edmonton
and the local solar energy society, crammed into a lone tent in Hawrelak
Park after a blizzard forced them to abandon their original locations.

That was Edmonton.

At Vancouver:

The flakes that fell across the Vancouver region Friday night and
Saturday represent the latest snowfall ever on record.

But the warmeners refused to let the weather have the last say in this
debate:

"Obviously we'll have fewer people than we would have liked, but to
cancel an Earth Day event because of weather would kind of be the
antithesis of what this is all about," said organizer Janice Boudreau.

Lorne Gunter would be glad. He was so looking forward to the show, even
as the show started to fall:

In the past, Edmonton's one-day Earth Day has been one of the biggest
enviro-festivals in the country. So perhaps scores of local advocacy
groups and "green" businesses managed to erect their tents and displays,
and tens of thousands of Edmontonians trudged through knee-deep snow to
visit them, eat "Earth-friendly food" and sit in on lectures about stuff
like composting your own human waste and applying used engine oil as a
night-time facial moisturizer.

But it seems the weather is just not doing what all the climate models
predicted. Gunter again:

Indeed, if you use 1998 as the base year, the Earth has cooled in the
last decade.

Lie #38

Quote:
Even if you use 2002 as Year Zero, there has been no
discernable warming.

Lie #39

Quote:
We have entered a "temperature plateau" so far this
decade.

Lie #40

Quote:
Even Rajendra Pachauri, chairman of the Intergovernmental Panel
on Climate Change, grudgingly had to admit as much a couple of months
ago.

Talking with Britain's Guardian newspaper in January, Dr. Pachauri
admitted he and the UN climate body he heads are looking into the
flat-lining temperatures. All the computer models of climate say we
should still be warming, but we're not.

UPDATE

Meanwhile, a calm exposition from Professor Bob Carter on whether global
warming has been cancelled:

And here is the impressive list of signatories so far to the Manhattan
Declaration that Carter helped to draft, which among other things
asserts:

that there is no convincing evidence that CO2 emissions from modern
industrial activity has in the past, is now, or will in the future cause
catastrophic climate change.

Lie #41

Quote:
--

Warmest Regards

Bonzo

The Fourth Report of the IPCC might just as well decree the
suppression of all climatology textbooks, and replace them in our
schools with press communiqués. ... Day after day, the same mantra -
that 'the Earth is warming up' - is churned out in all its forms. As
'the
ice melts' and 'sea level rises' the Apocalypse looms ever nearer!
Without realizing it, or perhaps without wishing to, the average
citizen in bamboozled, lobotomized, and lulled into mindless acceptance.
... Non-believers in the greenhouse scenario are in the
position of those long ago who doubted the existence of God ...
Marcel Leroux

It should be abundantly clear by now that the AGW hypothesis is
contradicted by the facts/measurements/observations and should
therefore be abandoned and be substituted by a hypothesis which
better matches the facts.
- Hans Labohm
V-for-Vendicar
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:28 am
Guest
"0NBZ0" <0NBZ0@doooooooooooooooodoooooooooo.com> wrote
Quote:
So how did global warmenists in Canada celebrate Earth Day?:

I spent it positing the temperature profile of the earth over the last 10
years.

Here it is...



1998 14.57 *********************o*****
1999 14.33 *****************>>>>o
2000 14.33 *****************>>>>>o
2001 14.48 ************************o
2002 14.56 *************************o**
2003 14.55 **************************o*
2004 14.49 *************************>>o
2005 14.63 *****************************o**
2006 14.54 ***************************>>>o
2007 14,57 *****************************

Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.
Guest
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:24 am
On Apr 25, 8:35 am, Polly the Parrot <flatulantdi...@deadspam.com>
wrote:
Quote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:28:47 -0400 "V-for-Vendicar"

Just...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.

Hardly scientific over a span of 10 years. Try 200 years or so to be
more accurate in the scheme of things.

I would be interested in the result.

Would about 150 years be sufficient?
http://hadobs.metoffice.com/hadcrut3/diagnostics/global/nh%2Bsh/index.html
Polly the Parrot
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:35 am
Guest
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:28:47 -0400 "V-for-Vendicar"
<Justice@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:

Quote:
Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.

Hardly scientific over a span of 10 years. Try 200 years or so to be
more accurate in the scheme of things.

I would be interested in the result.
Robert Blass
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:36 pm
Guest
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:24:22 -0700 (PDT), neutralino@gmail.com sayd
the following:



LOL that is a 'cycle' that will soon show temps going down again.

You guys are pretty fun to watch play.
V-for-Vendicar
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:53 pm
Guest
"Polly the Parrot" <flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote
Quote:
Hardly scientific over a span of 10 years.

True. But the claim has been made that over those 10 years the earth has
been cooling.

Thos KKKonservative Calaims are cleraly lies.
Polly the Parrot
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:55 pm
Guest
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:53:48 -0400 "V-for-Vendicar"
<Justice@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:

Quote:
Thos KKKonservative Calaims are cleraly lies.

Based on what?
V-for-Vendicar
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:55 pm
Guest
"Polly the Parrot" <flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote
Quote:
Try 200 years or so to be more accurate in the scheme of things.

I would be interested in the result.

Here you go

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Instrumental_Temperature_Record.png
V-for-Vendicar
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:00 pm
Guest
news:a59414dia6dl8scii9rifv0r2ul9ktm7oc@xxx.org...
Quote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:24:22 -0700 (PDT), neutralino@gmail.com sayd
the following:

Would about 150 years be sufficient?
http://hadobs.metoffice.com/hadcrut3/diagnostics/global/nh%2Bsh/index.html


"Robert Blass" <blame@messenger.xcx> wrote in message
Quote:
LOL that is a 'cycle' that will soon show temps going down again.

y = k*x + k1*rnd(0)

Looks like a cycle to you does it?

Ahahahahahaha MMMMMMMMMOOOOOORRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOONNN
Polly the Parrot
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:10 pm
Guest
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:55:57 -0400 "V-for-Vendicar"
<Justice@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:

Quote:
I would be interested in the result.

Here you go

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Instrumental_Temperature_Record.png

Thanks.

Since 1940 it seems to have increased by only 0.45 Celsius, unless I am
reading this wrong? Since 1860 still even less than one (1) degree
Celsius?

Hardly warming?
V-for-Vendicar
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:14 pm
Guest
Quote:
Thos KKKonservative Calaims are cleraly lies.


"Polly the Parrot" <flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote
Quote:
Based on what?

The data just presented. MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNN



Meanwhile... Global Temperatuers continue to rise

Here are the figures for the last decade.

1998 14.57 *********************o*****
1999 14.33 *****************>>>>o
2000 14.33 *****************>>>>>o
2001 14.48 ************************o
2002 14.56 *************************o**
2003 14.55 **************************o*
2004 14.49 *************************>>o
2005 14.63 *****************************o**
2006 14.54 ***************************>>>o
2007 14.57 *****************************

Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.
Whata Fool
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:37 am
Guest
Polly the Parrot <flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:55:57 -0400 "V-for-Vendicar"
Justice@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:

I would be interested in the result.

Here you go

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Instrumental_Temperature_Record.png

Thanks.

Since 1940 it seems to have increased by only 0.45 Celsius, unless I am
reading this wrong? Since 1860 still even less than one (1) degree
Celsius?

Hardly warming?

Well, according to that graph, between 1877 and 1977 there was near
zero warming, so it must be all in the last 30 years, a whole 0.6 degrees,
really scary, good thing we now have digital thermometers, or we would
never been aware of the horrors of a 0.6 degree warming.

But the 1960s were a full 10 degrees colder in some large regions,
maybe that is the thing to fear with the higher prices of home heating.
Guest
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:57 am
On Apr 25, 11:36 am, Robert Blass <bl...@messenger.xcx> wrote:
Quote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:24:22 -0700 (PDT), neutral...@gmail.com sayd
the following:

Would about 150 years be sufficient?
http://hadobs.metoffice.com/hadcrut3/diagnostics/global/nh%2Bsh/index...

LOL that is a 'cycle' that will soon show temps going down again.

So tell me, where did you get the temperature measurements for 2009,
2010, and 2011 to be able to determine that? Or will you admit that
you have no evidence to support your position at all.

And maybe if you read the text above the graph (did you look at it at
all?), you would have noticed...

"We have recently changed the way that the smoothed time series of
data were calculated. Data for 2008 were being used in the smoothing
process as if they represented an accurate esimate of the year as a
whole. This is not the case and owing to the unusually cool global
average temperature in January 2008, it looked as though smoothed
global average temperatures had dropped markedly in recent years,
which is misleading."
V-for-Vendicar
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:57 pm
Guest
"Polly the Parrot" <flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote
Quote:
Since 1940 it seems to have increased by only 0.45 Celsius, unless I am
reading this wrong?

You are reading wrong.

What is the trend in this time series.

0 *
1 ****
0 *
2 *******
0 *
3 ***********
0 *
4 *************
0 *
5 ****************
0 *

Is it zero?

If you think so then you should review remedial statistics.

What is the trend in this time series?

0 *
1 **
2 ***
3 ****
4 *****
5 ******
6 *******
0 *

If you think it is zero then you need to review some remedial statistics.

You can't compute a trend by arbitrarily selecting two end points and then
drawing a line between them.
 
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