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stryped
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:39 am
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By the way, if a person needed to drill about 12 holes about 3/8-5/8
in
Quote:
diameter in 3x3 square tubing, what would be the best way without
investing too much?
stryped
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:03 am
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On Apr 16, 12:58 pm, Grant Erwin <gr...@NOSPAMkirkland.net> wrote:
Quote:
stryped wrote:
By the way, if a person needed to drill about 12 holes about 3/8-5/8
in

diameter in 3x3 square tubing, what would be the best way without
investing too much?

Borrow a mag drill.

WHat is a mag drill?
Grant Erwin
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:58 pm
Guest
stryped wrote:
Quote:
By the way, if a person needed to drill about 12 holes about 3/8-5/8
in

diameter in 3x3 square tubing, what would be the best way without
investing too much?

Borrow a mag drill.
johnnytorch
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:22 pm
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"Grant Erwin" <grant@NOSPAMkirkland.net> wrote in message
news:T6rNj.6477$eg2.2872@trndny06...

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Borrow a mag drill.

Agreed. Buddy with a mag drill.

http://www.hougen.com/mag_drills/mag_drill_index.html
Grant Erwin
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:36 pm
Guest
stryped wrote:

Quote:
On Apr 16, 12:58 pm, Grant Erwin <gr...@NOSPAMkirkland.net> wrote:

stryped wrote:

By the way, if a person needed to drill about 12 holes about 3/8-5/8
in

diameter in 3x3 square tubing, what would be the best way without
investing too much?

Borrow a mag drill.


WHat is a mag drill?

It's a small light but powerful drill press mounted on a magnetic base.

To drill a hole in your 3x3" square tube, start by laying out the hole and
centerpunching it. With the magnet off, slide the drill into position until
the tit on the end of the cutter locates in your centerpunch, then click on
the magnet. Then apply coolant and drill the hole. To eject the slug,
fully retract the spindle.

There are several excellent brands of mag drills. I like Ernie's Jancy Slugger
No. 101; it's very light. I also like Hougen drills - they are very well
designed. I own a Steelmax mag drill, which I bought because it was cheap, but
it works well and has a 2MT tapered spindle and comes with a Weldon shank
adapter. If I want to use a drill bit (as opposed to a rotabroach-type cutter) I
can just pop in a drill chuck with a 2MT shank. I think Milwaukee mag drills are
too heavy.

Grant Erwin
Tinyisland Forge
Kirkland, Washington
stryped
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:32 am
Guest
On Apr 16, 4:36 pm, Grant Erwin <gr...@NOSPAMkirkland.net> wrote:
Quote:
stryped wrote:
On Apr 16, 12:58 pm, Grant Erwin <gr...@NOSPAMkirkland.net> wrote:

stryped wrote:

By the way, if a person needed to drill about 12 holes about 3/8-5/8
in

diameter in 3x3 square tubing, what would be the best way without
investing too much?

Borrow a mag drill.

WHat is a mag drill?

It's a small light but powerful drill press mounted on a magnetic base.

To drill a hole in your 3x3" square tube, start by laying out the hole and
centerpunching it. With the magnet off, slide the drill into position until
the tit on the end of the cutter locates in your centerpunch, then click on
the magnet. Then apply coolant and drill the hole. To eject the slug,
fully retract the spindle.

There are several excellent brands of mag drills. I like Ernie's Jancy Slugger
No. 101; it's very light. I also like Hougen drills - they are very well
designed. I own a Steelmax mag drill, which I bought because it was cheap, but
it works well and has a 2MT tapered spindle and comes with a Weldon shank
adapter. If I want to use a drill bit (as opposed to a rotabroach-type cutter) I
can just pop in a drill chuck with a 2MT shank. I think Milwaukee mag drills are
too heavy.

Grant Erwin
Tinyisland Forge
Kirkland, Washington

How much are they?
Al Patrick
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:45 pm
Guest
stryped wrote:
Quote:
On Apr 16, 4:36 pm, Grant Erwin <gr...@NOSPAMkirkland.net> wrote:
stryped wrote:
On Apr 16, 12:58 pm, Grant Erwin <gr...@NOSPAMkirkland.net> wrote:
stryped wrote:
By the way, if a person needed to drill about 12 holes about 3/8-5/8
in
diameter in 3x3 square tubing, what would be the best way without
investing too much?
Borrow a mag drill.
WHat is a mag drill?
It's a small light but powerful drill press mounted on a magnetic base.

To drill a hole in your 3x3" square tube, start by laying out the hole and
centerpunching it. With the magnet off, slide the drill into position until
the tit on the end of the cutter locates in your centerpunch, then click on
the magnet. Then apply coolant and drill the hole. To eject the slug,
fully retract the spindle.

There are several excellent brands of mag drills. I like Ernie's Jancy Slugger
No. 101; it's very light. I also like Hougen drills - they are very well
designed. I own a Steelmax mag drill, which I bought because it was cheap, but
it works well and has a 2MT tapered spindle and comes with a Weldon shank
adapter. If I want to use a drill bit (as opposed to a rotabroach-type cutter) I
can just pop in a drill chuck with a 2MT shank. I think Milwaukee mag drills are
too heavy.

Grant Erwin
Tinyisland Forge
Kirkland, Washington

How much are they?

You know the old saying, "If you have to ask the price...."

They are NOT cheap. Look into borrowing one from a friend or renting one.

http://www.mcmaster.com/

You may be able to find one cheaper, but these are $900 - $1300 range.
Harbor Freight probably won't have them, but may. If so expect
several hundred dollars anyway, ? $300 - $500.

Call an equipment rental place, if needed - or get someone else to drill
them for you.

Al
William Bagwell
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:41 pm
Guest
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 07:39:50 -0700 (PDT), stryped > wrote:

Quote:
By the way, if a person needed to drill about 12 holes about 3/8-5/8
in
diameter in 3x3 square tubing, what would be the best way without
investing too much?

What wall thickness?

Unless it is really thick I am going to disagree with the mag-base
suggestion. They do not hold well to thin stuff. I had a mag-base come
after me once:-( Very thin sheet metal on top of a frame and I was
using a 6 inch hole saw...

If you do borrow / rent one clamp a piece of (same size) tubing on each
side of the one you are drilling so the base is not hanging over. Been a
few years but I remember the bases being wider than 3 inches.
--
William
glyford@gmail.com
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:42 am
Guest
Quote:
By the way, if a person needed to drill about 12 holes about 3/8-5/8
in diameter in 3x3 square tubing, what would be the best way without
investing too much?

Buy a $50 cheap chinese benchtop drill press (or get a real drill
press off of eBay or craigslist, if you can afford to wait for a good
deal). If you can't get the metal to the workbench, try c-clamping
the drill press base or table to the metal instead.

You don't say anything about needed accuracy. If you don't need a lot
of precision, you could also use a good hand drill (I'd recommend a
1/2" drill, which will probably still cost you about $50) and step
drill these holes. Start off with something small, like 3/16 or so,
then drill with the size you need. Ease up on the pressure when
you're almost through, or the drill will catch, and the 1/2" electric
drills can throw you around a bit (use two hands). I've done holes
like this with a 3/8" drill, but it gets messy fast, since you have to
go up drill sizes in smaller increments and the drills don't cut as
cleanly when you do that--the holes can end up out of round or out of
position fairly easily. This will go faster if you use cutting oil,
but is still possible without. If you don't already have the
necessary twist drill bits new ones in the larger sizes can get pricy
fast, it may actually be cheaper to buy a good hole saw.

And last but not least, you could try eBay for a "cole drill". This
is a non-motorized hand powered drill which clamps onto the metal
being drilled, and has a nut that you turn as it drills to keep drill
pressure on the bit as you turn the crank. It probably won't take
much longer than using a 1/2" electric drill (though I wouldn't use it
with a hole saw).
--Glenn Lyford
Al Patrick
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:29 pm
Guest
glyford@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
By the way, if a person needed to drill about 12 holes about 3/8-5/8
in diameter in 3x3 square tubing, what would be the best way without
investing too much?

Buy a $50 cheap chinese benchtop drill press (or get a real drill
press off of eBay or craigslist, if you can afford to wait for a good
deal). If you can't get the metal to the workbench, try c-clamping
the drill press base or table to the metal instead.

You don't say anything about needed accuracy. If you don't need a lot
of precision, you could also use a good hand drill (I'd recommend a
1/2" drill, which will probably still cost you about $50) and step
drill these holes. Start off with something small, like 3/16 or so,
then drill with the size you need. Ease up on the pressure when
you're almost through, or the drill will catch, and the 1/2" electric
drills can throw you around a bit (use two hands). I've done holes
like this with a 3/8" drill, but it gets messy fast, since you have to
go up drill sizes in smaller increments and the drills don't cut as
cleanly when you do that--the holes can end up out of round or out of
position fairly easily. This will go faster if you use cutting oil,
but is still possible without. If you don't already have the
necessary twist drill bits new ones in the larger sizes can get pricy
fast, it may actually be cheaper to buy a good hole saw.

And last but not least, you could try eBay for a "cole drill". This
is a non-motorized hand powered drill which clamps onto the metal
being drilled, and has a nut that you turn as it drills to keep drill
pressure on the bit as you turn the crank. It probably won't take
much longer than using a 1/2" electric drill (though I wouldn't use it
with a hole saw).
--Glenn Lyford

That hole saw might be less likely to grab than the bit and thus less
likely to spin him around like a rag doll! Smile Those low speed high
torque drills can hurt a big strong fellow who doesn't handle it exactly
right!
 
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