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subhadip

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:02 am

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Hi,
Is there any website which publish data for schumann resonance? I
am doing researh on it. But not finding enough data. Can you please
provide me any information regarding this?
Thanks .
Subahdip

Weatherlawyer

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:06 pm

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On Mar 30, 5:02 pm, subhadip <subhadip...@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

Hi,
Is there any website which publish data for schumann resonance? I
am doing researh on it. But not finding enough data. Can you please
provide me any information regarding this?

http://plaza.ufl.edu/rakov/resources.htm
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=schumann+resonance&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a

I was looking at a pdf on this very subject a few days back but I
can't recall much about it. It was a paper submitted for a PhD in the
early 1990's I believe. I cleared my history shortly thereafter and
now it may have gorned.

I think I came across it following a search over something in this
PDF:
Modulation of African lightning and rainfall by the global five day
wave. (Submitted to MIT by Akash C Patel.)

I'm pretty sure the stuff I was reading was by a female Prof at that
uni (or subsequent research institute) circa 1994/5. Claire something
or other if memory serves. Sadly these days it plays tricks (and hide
and seek.)

Weatherlawyer

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:40 pm

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On Mar 31, 4:50 am, Aidan Karley <name1_na...@email.provider.invalid>
wrote:

Quote:

In article <500428c1-0735-4c49-9964-857957a95...@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, Subhadip wrote:
Is there any website which publish data for schumann resonance? I
am doing researh on it. But not finding enough data. Can you please
provide me any information regarding this?

The polite answer is that it's impossible to determine how far
you've "researched" and what sort of data you are looking for if you
don't tell us what you've already looked at and for. In short, you need
to give a brief summary of what work you've already done. I've spent a
whole minute on the subject and found more than sufficient information
to lead me in 4 different directions writing 4 different essays on the
subject for 4 different courses of study. While I've been typing this,
I've been getting into a second popular (and free-to-access) research
tool. That'll give me a few more things to follow up in the "formal
literature", once I get the results back ... which has gone over the 5
minutes I've allotted to it, so I'll drop the subject for now.
The impolite answer would be to suspect that you're wanting
someone else to do your homework for you. In which case, by not posting
the question you're going to guarantee that any assistance you do get
will be completely inappropriate to the question which you're meant to
answer.

If you're seriously wanting help on this subject, try telling
people what you've done so far. That's *much* more likely to elicit a
useful response.

You don't suspect his research is tending toward seismology rather
than meteorology then? I would have thought your first line of
reasoning would be to tell him the name of a more suitable newsgroup.

In which case why did he want the research for homework? What child
would be aware of the subject or its potential in this newsgroup?
Hells bells, there is only me that's even looked at that sort of thing
recently and I can't remember why.

I on't believe that I mentioned it on here.

He seems gifted at writing Java so maybe other programmes, as far as I
know this would explain why the posts don't appear to be cross posted.

This post is revealing:

Hi, http://simple-search.blogspot.com/. This blog contains 8 custom
search engines using Google's
feature . Search engines, each one is dedicated for a specific
purpose . This will make your life simple by giving you exactly what
you want very quickly. Search Engines Are For :- 0)JAVA 1)IBM
WEBSPHERE MQ , MQSeries 2)JAVA CODE 3)COMPUTER SCIENCE 4)EDUCATIONAL
VIDEO OR ENTERTAINMENT VIDEOS 5)HACKING 6)FREE SOFTWARE DOWNLOAD .
Regards
Subhadip

OTOH he has had employment at a major industrial plant and at a
sufficiently high enough rank to make one wonder.

I can't place his nationality from his grammar. His skill at English
is very good but it isn't his first language. Don't frighten him off.

Aidan Karley

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:50 pm

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In article <500428c1-0735-4c49-9964-
857957a95096@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, Subhadip wrote:

Quote:

Is there any website which publish data for schumann resonance? I
am doing researh on it. But not finding enough data. Can you please
provide me any information regarding this?

The polite answer is that it's impossible to determine how far

you've "researched" and what sort of data you are looking for if you
don't tell us what you've already looked at and for. In short, you need
to give a brief summary of what work you've already done. I've spent a
whole minute on the subject and found more than sufficient information
to lead me in 4 different directions writing 4 different essays on the
subject for 4 different courses of study. While I've been typing this,
I've been getting into a second popular (and free-to-access) research
tool. That'll give me a few more things to follow up in the "formal
literature", once I get the results back ... which has gone over the 5
minutes I've allotted to it, so I'll drop the subject for now.
The impolite answer would be to suspect that you're wanting
someone else to do your homework for you. In which case, by not posting
the question you're going to guarantee that any assistance you do get
will be completely inappropriate to the question which you're meant to
answer.

If you're seriously wanting help on this subject, try telling
people what you've done so far. That's *much* more likely to elicit a
useful response.

--
Aidan Karley, FGS
Aberdeen, Scotland
Message written at Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:20 +0100, now I'm back on
shore.

Weatherlawyer

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:52 am

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http://trmm.gsfc.nasa.gov/ is the modern home of what this site I was
talking about in the earlier post eventually became:
http://kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu/group/demott/research.html#Data

I don't think many of the links on the page work.

subhadip

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:37 pm

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On Mar 31, 8:50 am, Aidan Karley <name1_na...@email.provider.invalid>
wrote:

Quote:

In article <500428c1-0735-4c49-9964-857957a95...@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, Subhadip wrote:
Is there any website which publishdataforschumannresonance? I
am doing researh on it. But not finding enoughdata. Can you please
provide me any information regarding this?

The polite answer is that it's impossible to determine how far
you've "researched" and what sort ofdatayou are looking for if you
don't tell us what you've already looked at and for. In short, you need
to give a brief summary of what work you've already done. I've spent a
whole minute on the subject and found more than sufficient information
to lead me in 4 different directions writing 4 different essays on the
subject for 4 different courses of study. While I've been typing this,
I've been getting into a second popular (and free-to-access) research
tool. That'll give me a few more things to follow up in the "formal
literature", once I get the results back ... which has gone over the 5
minutes I've allotted to it, so I'll drop the subject for now.
The impolite answer would be to suspect that you're wanting
someone else to do your homework for you. In which case, by not posting
the question you're going to guarantee that any assistance you do get
will be completely inappropriate to the question which you're meant to
answer.

If you're seriously wanting help on this subject, try telling
people what you've done so far. That's *much* more likely to elicit a
useful response.

--
Aidan Karley, FGS
Aberdeen, Scotland
Message written at Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:20 +0100, now I'm back on
shore.

The name of my research work is " development of electrodynamical
coupled model usins schumann resonance and global electric ciecuit" .
My work place is kolkata,INDIA.I wish to work about schumann resonance
and thunder stomr link. but no such data is availble. I am puzzle.
Please help me to give information about this or tutorial.

Weatherlawyer

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:44 pm

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On Apr 4, 7:37 am, subhadip <subhadip...@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

On Mar 31, 8:50 am, Aidan Karley <name1_na...@email.provider.invalid
wrote:

In article <500428c1-0735-4c49-9964-857957a95...@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, Subhadip wrote:
Is there any website which publishdataforschumannresonance? I
am doing researh on it. But not finding enoughdata. Can you please
provide me any information regarding this?

The polite answer is that it's impossible to determine how far
you've "researched" and what sort ofdatayou are looking for if you
don't tell us what you've already looked at and for. In short, you need
to give a brief summary of what work you've already done. I've spent a
whole minute on the subject and found more than sufficient information
to lead me in 4 different directions writing 4 different essays on the
subject for 4 different courses of study. While I've been typing this,
I've been getting into a second popular (and free-to-access) research
tool. That'll give me a few more things to follow up in the "formal
literature", once I get the results back ... which has gone over the 5
minutes I've allotted to it, so I'll drop the subject for now.
The impolite answer would be to suspect that you're wanting
someone else to do your homework for you. In which case, by not posting
the question you're going to guarantee that any assistance you do get
will be completely inappropriate to the question which you're meant to
answer.

If you're seriously wanting help on this subject, try telling
people what you've done so far. That's *much* more likely to elicit a
useful response.

--
Aidan Karley, FGS
Aberdeen, Scotland
Message written at Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:20 +0100, now I'm back on
shore.

The name of my research work is " development of electrodynamical
coupled model usins schumann resonance and global electric ciecuit" .
My work place is kolkata,INDIA.I wish to work about schumann resonance
and thunder stomr link. but no such data is availble. I am puzzle.
Please help me to give information about this or tutorial.

I think that what you want is sci.geo.meteorology

Also write to the various universities in the USA that have a
Meteorology department. A lot of research in Alaska and Colorado has
been carried out fairly recently on lightning and its variations.

If you want a grounding in Meteorology you could do worse than read
the not all that frequently asked questions web-pages of the
uk.sci.weather newsgroup.

How much bandwidth do you have available to you? I would suggest the
websites that I post comments about but they are image intensive and
would cripple a poor connection.

If that is a problem for you and you are interested in my work I could
put it on CD for you or DVD if I can find out how to make my damned
disks work. (I think that's down to Sir William Gates III though, -not
entirely my fault.)

Weatherlawyer

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:09 pm

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On Apr 4, 9:44 am, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

The name of my research work is [" Development of Electro-Dynamically
Coupled Models using Schumann Resonance in a Global Electrical Circuit"]

My work place is Kolkata, India.

I wish to work on Schumann Resonance [with any links to] thunder stoms.
no such data is available. I am puzzled about [that]
Please help me to get information about this or a tutorial.

I think that what you want is sci.geo.meteorology.

Unfortunately as a discussion group it bends over to Global Warming
and a lot of sad losers post to there from the various environmental
groups.

The other alternative is to find non Usenet forums and discuss the
subject there.

When I was struggling like you are now, to find information on my
subject, one of my forst hits was the hurricane in the Bay of Bengal
after trying to tie in the dates of various lunar cycles with a rather
poor lisat of weather events.

I had it in mind that hurricanes occurred whenever there is a full or
new moon at 13:00. It just happened that the event recurred as I found
a set of matching dates. 1928 I think and 1991 or 2. I can't remember.
The list of events was identical but their timing, order and their
magnitudes were different.

Something else I misunderstood at the time was the effect of tides and
in fact the cause of them, which if contemporary ideals were true, put
Liverpool and Calcutta:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&q=Kolkata,+West+Bengal+India&um=1&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&resnum=1&ct=image
.....on the same tide line as Fiji and the place that used to be New
Orleans. (Sadly obliterated by a devious chimpanzee. You vote monkeys
and you get nuts. What else can one say?)

Skywise

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:36 pm

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Weatherlawyer <Weatherlawyer@hotmail.com> wrote in news:c373bd67-55b6-4661-
a879-3f1db275ecf6@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:

Quote:

Unfortunately as a discussion group it bends over to Global Warming
and a lot of sad losers post

You owe me a new keyboard.

Brian
--
http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html
Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

Aidan Karley

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:43 am

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In article <cfd0d1a4-de53-41d2-bf8f-
4c3dd5eb5412@r9g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, Subhadip wrote:

Quote:

I assume that you're familiar with Googling for information.
There's a modest amount there about Schumann Resonances, including how
people are trying to use them to estimate the global "thunderstorm
budget".
The next BIG resource to follow for scientific research topics is
ArXiv - an online preprint archive where a LOT of physics, astronomy and
maths research gets published. Your local mirror is
http://in.arxiv.org/, and includes a search engine. (The default of the
search is for author names, which isn't what people are normally doing ;
I normally start with a search on "Author/ title/ abstract", but that's
not turning up anything for "schumann resonance" which surprises me.
Next step is search on the full record, and to select for "all years"
and all of the subject areas.
Just running the search on the Indian ArXiv, and it's taking a
long time to come back with results from a full search. I'll leave that
running while I continue typing.

Wikipedia is also a useful place to get an overview of a topic.
But be prepared to find nothing, or something wrong. You absolutely must
follow up your references from here and go back to the original papers.
There's a lot of links back to ArXiv from Wikipedia, since papers on
ArXiv are free-to-access.

By the time you've selected a couple of dozen papers from ArXiv,
you should be in a position to determine who are the relevant
researchers to follow up more on - visit their institutional home pages
or use their publishing record (back to ArXiv as a back-up, if there's
no home page). After that, and once you've done the grind of going
through the papers, then you'll have the contact information to get in
with the people actually working on the problem.

The Indian ArXiv server is unable to give me a result for the
search I described. Which suggests that there's something wrong at their
end. ... very odd - I'm sure I got a set of results a couple of days ago
when I tried it.
Taking the back-door of searching ArXiv through Google (you can
specify a particular internet domain under the "Advanced Search" link
from the main search page, or you can use the appropriate codes in the
normal search page) ... and some decidedly kooky (weird!) stuff comes
up. But generally googling also leads me to
http://www.ravid.org/gilad/JAtTERPHYS-2005.pdf (which looks relatively
sane) and http://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/0506/0506077.pdf (also
relatively sane) ; between them you should be able to get a pile of
references to whatever journals your institution's library subscribes to
(or has an online subscription to).

Hope this helps. I thought that I got results from ArXiv a couple
of days ago, but something seems unhappy today. The Wikipedia route is
looking well-stocked with references and links to follow up. After that,
it's time to search the shelves I'd suspect. There is no real
alternative to getting into the library at the end of the day. Which
reminds me to renew my library membership in the next couple of months.

--
Aidan Karley, FGS
Aberdeen, Scotland
Message written at Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:52 +0100, now I'm back on
shore.

Aidan Karley

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:38 pm

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In article <cfd0d1a4-de53-41d2-bf8f-
4c3dd5eb5412@r9g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, Subhadip wrote:

Quote:

ArXiv, which is a little unusual. I'm taking a different tack and going
through the reference list from the Wikipedia article, looking for the
most-often appearing *unusual* author names and searching individually
for them on ArXiv. This looks to be an area of research where posting to
ArXiv just hasn't caught on.
There does seem to be some material (abstracts at least) on
NASA's ADS Abstracts service. Sounds like you're going to need to check
you library for the cited journals in hard copy, or go to your
institution's Inter-Library Loan service.

Sorry, I don't think I can help much more.

--
Aidan Karley, FGS
Aberdeen, Scotland
Message written at Mon, 07 Apr 2008 02:30 +0100, now I'm back on
shore.

subhadip

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:18 am

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Quote:

In article <cfd0d1a4-de53-41d2-bf8f-4c3dd5eb5...@r9g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, Subhadip wrote:
The name of my research work is " development of electrodynamical
coupled model usins schumann resonance and global electric ciecuit" .
My work place is kolkata,INDIA.I wish to work about schumann resonance
and thunder stomr link. but no such data is availble. I am puzzle.
Please help me to give information about this or tutorial.

I'm still having problems with getting anything out of this from
ArXiv, which is a little unusual. I'm taking a different tack and going
through the reference list from the Wikipedia article, looking for the
most-often appearing *unusual* author names and searching individually
for them on ArXiv. This looks to be an area of research where posting to
ArXiv just hasn't caught on.
There does seem to be some material (abstracts at least) on
NASA's ADS Abstracts service. Sounds like you're going to need to check
you library for the cited journals in hard copy, or go to your
institution's Inter-Library Loan service.

Sorry, I don't think I can help much more.

--
Aidan Karley, FGS
Aberdeen, Scotland
Message written at Mon, 07 Apr 2008 02:30 +0100, now I'm back on
shore.

David Saum

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:00 am

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check out

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ulfelf/

Description
This is a discussion group devoted to ULF and ELF radio waves with an
emphasis on the Schumann resonances, brain wave research, earthquake
precursors, the equipment necessary to receive them, and time domain
electromagnetics. Membership is open to everyone sharing this interest

Hope this helps,

Dave

"subhadip" <subhadip21a@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1b3673c4-39fc-4e01-8bda-ad1f5c11ce9b@q10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

Quote:

Thank you very much for your help.
Is There any place/web-site where I can can buy data related to
schumann resonance?
Thanks
On Apr 7, 6:38 am, Aidan Karley <name1_na...@email.provider.invalid
wrote:
In article
cfd0d1a4-de53-41d2-bf8f-4c3dd5eb5...@r9g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
Subhadip wrote:
The name of my research work is " development of electrodynamical
coupled model usins schumann resonance and global electric ciecuit" .
My work place is kolkata,INDIA.I wish to work about schumann resonance
and thunder stomr link. but no such data is availble. I am puzzle.
Please help me to give information about this or tutorial.

I'm still having problems with getting anything out of this from
ArXiv, which is a little unusual. I'm taking a different tack and going
through the reference list from the Wikipedia article, looking for the
most-often appearing *unusual* author names and searching individually
for them on ArXiv. This looks to be an area of research where posting to
ArXiv just hasn't caught on.
There does seem to be some material (abstracts at least) on
NASA's ADS Abstracts service. Sounds like you're going to need to check
you library for the cited journals in hard copy, or go to your
institution's Inter-Library Loan service.

Sorry, I don't think I can help much more.

--
Aidan Karley, FGS
Aberdeen, Scotland
Message written at Mon, 07 Apr 2008 02:30 +0100, now I'm back on
shore.

Weatherlawyer

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:50 am

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On Apr 10, 4:00 pm, "David Saum" <dsaumNOSPAMPLE...@infiltec.com>
wrote:

Quote:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ulfelf/

This is a discussion group devoted to ULF and ELF radio waves with an
emphasis on the Schumann resonances, brain wave research, earthquake
precursors, the equipment necessary to receive them, and time domain
electromagnetics. Membership is open to everyone sharing this interest

Some of the stuff you could apply to MIT for:

Are Global Lightning Activity and the Global Electrical Circuit
Responsive to Global Temperature Change?

Why is Lightning Activity so Strongly Concentrated over Land?

Are Lightning-Producing Volcanic Eruptions Just Dirty Thunderstorms?

What Lightning Type is Launching Gamma Radiation into Space?

What Lightning Type is Causing Red Sprites in the Mesosphere?

How Do Changes in Solar X-Radiation Modify the Resonant Frequencies of
the Earth-Ionosphere Cavity?

How Does the 5-Day Global Wave Modulate Lightning and Rainfall over
Africa?

Can Different Models of the Uniform Earth-Ionosphere Cavity be
Distinguished with Measured Schumann Resonance Spectra?

Can Severe Storms with Inverted Electrical Polarity be Explained by
Extreme Thermodynamics?

Why is Lightning More Prevalent in the Congo River Basin in Africa
than in the Amazon basin in South America?

http://cee.mit.edu/index.pl?iid=22059

Aidan Karley

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:00 am

Guest

In article <1b3673c4-39fc-4e01-8bda-
ad1f5c11ce9b@q10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, Subhadip wrote:

Quote:

Is There any place/web-site where I can can buy data related to
schumann resonance?

Sounds pretty esoteric to me - I think that you'd get more

mileage from reading up the papers cited in the Wikipedia page I said
(this will probably involve using an inter-library loan service for the
journal you can't get hold of otherwise ; in the UK that's about £3.50
per paper). That'll get your head around the topic. Then contact some
relevant researchers in the field (identified by your reading round the
subject ; most papers give an email address "for correspondence") and
ask sensible questions.
I would doubt that there's enough market to generate books on
the subject. Possibly books of conference proceedings/ papers, but
you'll identify those from your reading around.

--
Aidan Karley, FGS
Aberdeen, Scotland
Message written at Wed, 16 Apr 2008 05:34 +0100, now I'm back on
shore.

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