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sno
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:29 pm
Guest
Interesting simple analysis....

http://www.financialsense.com/Market/wrapup.htm

thank you for listening to my thoughts...have fun....sno
Guest
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:40 pm
On Apr 14, 3:29 pm, sno <s...@opelc.com> wrote:
Quote:
Interesting simple analysis....

http://www.financialsense.com/Market/wrapup.htm

thank you for listening to my thoughts...have fun....sno

Quite correct on nuclear energy, however.

David
Roland Mösl
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:56 pm
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"sno" <sno@opelc.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:4803DAC1.61BFB62F@opelc.com...
Quote:

Interesting simple analysis....

http://www.financialsense.com/Market/wrapup.htm

thank you for listening to my thoughts...have fun....sno

IEA, an organisation founded 1973 after the first oil crisis
publishes each year a WEO world energy outlook

All the time, steep increase of oil usage.

Now there is an interview with the IEA.

The WEO 2008 which will be published in November is
complete different. Steep decline in oil.

http://live.pege.org/2008-iea-weo/


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sno
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:28 am
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Roland Mösl wrote:
Quote:

"sno" <sno@opelc.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:4803DAC1.61BFB62F@opelc.com...

Interesting simple analysis....

http://www.financialsense.com/Market/wrapup.htm

thank you for listening to my thoughts...have fun....sno

IEA, an organisation founded 1973 after the first oil crisis
publishes each year a WEO world energy outlook

All the time, steep increase of oil usage.

Now there is an interview with the IEA.

The WEO 2008 which will be published in November is
complete different. Steep decline in oil.

http://live.pege.org/2008-iea-weo/

financialsense is a investor site...some of these sites have

a tendency to get analysis right, because they make money when
they do...financialsense has been about a year ahead of the
curve for more then ten years in regards to commodities/energy
so has a pretty good record....so I have a tendency to believe
their analysis...

have fun.....sno

to get analysis right...
Trakar
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:34 am
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"Roland Mösl" <founder@pege.org> wrote in message
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Quote:
"sno" <sno@opelc.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:4803DAC1.61BFB62F@opelc.com...

Interesting simple analysis....

http://www.financialsense.com/Market/wrapup.htm

thank you for listening to my thoughts...have fun....sno

IEA, an organisation founded 1973 after the first oil crisis
publishes each year a WEO world energy outlook

All the time, steep increase of oil usage.

Now there is an interview with the IEA.

The WEO 2008 which will be published in November is
complete different. Steep decline in oil.

http://live.pege.org/2008-iea-weo/


--
Roland Mösl
http://car.pege.org cars and traffic
http://live.pege.org building and live
http://www.pege.org

Whoever PEGE is, if they are going to produce a convincing english website,
they need to hire an educated, native english speaker to compose it for
them. The site comes across very poorly in its present form.
Roland Mösl
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:34 am
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"sno" <sno@opelc.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:48043CF8.521DCBC2@opelc.com...

Quote:
to get analysis right...

The consequences....

Increase photovoltaic world production as fast as possible
to replace oil by electric power

http://live.pege.org/2008-energy/difference-2018.htm

Change all cars to plug-in hybrid or electric only

http://car.pege.org/technic/plug-in-hybrid-vehicles.htm

Treat the litihum battery development like the Manhattan project


--
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http://live.pege.org building and live
http://www.pege.org
Roland Mösl
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:52 am
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"Trakar" <TShaitanaku-at-comcast-dot-net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Quote:
Whoever PEGE is, if they are going to produce a convincing english
website, they need to hire an educated, native english speaker to compose
it for them. The site comes across very poorly in its present form.

I know my English is far away from perfect

So I wrote this page

http://www.pege.org/support/correction.htm

So please help to improve

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http://live.pege.org building and live
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Poetic Justice
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:06 am
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Roland Mösl wrote:
Quote:
"sno" <sno@opelc.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:48043CF8.521DCBC2@opelc.com...

to get analysis right...

The consequences....

Increase photovoltaic world production as fast as possible
to replace oil by electric power

Cover the entire planet with photo cells and it won't be enough, half
will be in the dark 100% of the time.


Quote:
http://live.pege.org/2008-energy/difference-2018.htm

Change all cars to plug-in hybrid or electric only

Then they will run on coal....



Quote:
http://car.pege.org/technic/plug-in-hybrid-vehicles.htm

Treat the litihum battery development like the Manhattan project

If it's worth it then private industry will discover it, there was no
Manhattan project to discover manned flight.
Ouroboros_Rex
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:45 am
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Poetic Justice wrote:
Quote:
Roland Mösl wrote:
"sno" <sno@opelc.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:48043CF8.521DCBC2@opelc.com...

to get analysis right...

The consequences....

Increase photovoltaic world production as fast as possible
to replace oil by electric power

Cover the entire planet with photo cells and it won't be enough, half
will be in the dark 100% of the time.


http://live.pege.org/2008-energy/difference-2018.htm

Change all cars to plug-in hybrid or electric only

Then they will run on coal....



http://car.pege.org/technic/plug-in-hybrid-vehicles.htm

Treat the litihum battery development like the Manhattan project

If it's worth it then private industry will discover it, there was no
Manhattan project to discover manned flight.

As we see here, right wingers just make up lies off the top of their
heads. lol
Anthony Matonak
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:06 pm
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Poetic Justice wrote:
Quote:
Roland Mösl wrote:
....
Increase photovoltaic world production as fast as possible
to replace oil by electric power

Cover the entire planet with photo cells and it won't be enough, half
will be in the dark 100% of the time.

If I recall correctly, the United States is one of the more
energy consuming countries in the world and all of it's
energy needs could be met by covering an area equal to a
square measuring 200 miles on a side with current PV. This
is about 1/100th of the land area of this country.

You talk as if no one ever invented a way to store electricity.

I have heard of people who power their homes, business and
vehicles with solar energy so clearly it's possible.

Anthony
Poetic Justice
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:03 pm
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Anthony Matonak wrote:
Quote:
Poetic Justice wrote:
Roland Mösl wrote:
....
Increase photovoltaic world production as fast as possible
to replace oil by electric power

Cover the entire planet with photo cells and it won't be enough, half
will be in the dark 100% of the time.

If I recall correctly, the United States is one of the more
energy consuming countries in the world and all of it's
energy needs could be met by covering an area equal to a
square measuring 200 miles on a side with current PV. This
is about 1/100th of the land area of this country.

You talk as if no one ever invented a way to store electricity.

I have heard of people who power their homes, business and
vehicles with solar energy so clearly it's possible.

Anthony


Where did the energy come from to build that home, and all the energy to
do the rest of the things you need like make clothes water food and
transportation of such items.... Not enough space for enough photo cells
to power our planet.

It wouldn't even light all the light bulbs that currently run.
Ouroboros_Rex
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:16 pm
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"Poetic Justice" <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-Dog.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Anthony Matonak wrote:
Poetic Justice wrote:
Roland Mösl wrote:
....
Increase photovoltaic world production as fast as possible
to replace oil by electric power

Cover the entire planet with photo cells and it won't be enough, half
will be in the dark 100% of the time.

If I recall correctly, the United States is one of the more
energy consuming countries in the world and all of it's
energy needs could be met by covering an area equal to a
square measuring 200 miles on a side with current PV. This
is about 1/100th of the land area of this country.

You talk as if no one ever invented a way to store electricity.

I have heard of people who power their homes, business and
vehicles with solar energy so clearly it's possible.

Anthony


Where did the energy come from to build that home, and all the energy to
do the rest of the things you need like make clothes water food and
transportation of such items.... Not enough space for enough photo cells
to power our planet.

It wouldn't even light all the light bulbs that currently run.

Making up crazyass crap again, I see. lol
daestrom
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:22 pm
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"Poetic Justice" <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-Dog.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Anthony Matonak wrote:
Poetic Justice wrote:
Roland Mösl wrote:
....
Increase photovoltaic world production as fast as possible
to replace oil by electric power

Cover the entire planet with photo cells and it won't be enough, half
will be in the dark 100% of the time.

If I recall correctly, the United States is one of the more
energy consuming countries in the world and all of it's
energy needs could be met by covering an area equal to a
square measuring 200 miles on a side with current PV. This
is about 1/100th of the land area of this country.

You talk as if no one ever invented a way to store electricity.

I have heard of people who power their homes, business and
vehicles with solar energy so clearly it's possible.

Anthony


Where did the energy come from to build that home, and all the energy to
do the rest of the things you need like make clothes water food and
transportation of such items.... Not enough space for enough photo cells
to power our planet.

It wouldn't even light all the light bulbs that currently run.

Clearly you've never seriously looked at the energy consumption versus PV
output. Or you wouldn't be making such silly statements that are so easily
disproved.

daestrom
Roland Mösl
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:17 am
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"Poetic Justice" <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-Dog.com> schrieb im
Newsbeitrag news:Dv3Nj.150$3v1.67@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
Quote:
Roland Mösl wrote:
"sno" <sno@opelc.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:48043CF8.521DCBC2@opelc.com...

to get analysis right...

The consequences....

Increase photovoltaic world production as fast as possible
to replace oil by electric power

Cover the entire planet with photo cells and it won't be enough, half will
be in the dark 100% of the time.

70 m² per inhabitant are enough

It's seems You are unable for calulations


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http://live.pege.org building and live
http://www.pege.org
Roland Mösl
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:19 am
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"Poetic Justice" <@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-Dog.com> schrieb im
Newsbeitrag news:jZ6Nj.7980$DY1.2237@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
Quote:
Anthony Matonak wrote:
Poetic Justice wrote:
Roland Mösl wrote:
....
Increase photovoltaic world production as fast as possible
to replace oil by electric power

Cover the entire planet with photo cells and it won't be enough, half
will be in the dark 100% of the time.

If I recall correctly, the United States is one of the more
energy consuming countries in the world and all of it's
energy needs could be met by covering an area equal to a
square measuring 200 miles on a side with current PV. This
is about 1/100th of the land area of this country.

You talk as if no one ever invented a way to store electricity.

I have heard of people who power their homes, business and
vehicles with solar energy so clearly it's possible.

Anthony


Where did the energy come from to build that home, and all the energy to
do the rest of the things you need like make clothes water food and
transportation of such items.... Not enough space for enough photo cells
to power our planet.

When I calculate 10.000 kWh per inhabitatt of planet earth,
it's only 70 m² per inhabitant

That includes all like industrial produciton, traffic,
sea water desalination as large consumers


--
Roland Mösl
http://car.pege.org cars and traffic
http://live.pege.org building and live
http://www.pege.org
 
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