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Eeyore
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:57 pm
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Straydog wrote:

Quote:
On paper its a very nice idea: renewable source, no moving parts,
simple, eventually cheap.

However, I saw an article recently about solar cell manufacturing in
China and they make a ton of a solid waste byproduct that is toxic
and bad for the soil and lots of land in China is being made
permanently useless on account of this.

I can fully believe that. You rarely hear about the practical downsides of
allegedly 'green' ideas.

Graham
GeekBoy
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:50 pm
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"BradGuth" <bradguth@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 28, 10:09 am, "GeekBoy" <nos...@spamcop.net> wrote:
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BradGuth wrote:
On Mar 28, 8:29 am, Blattus Slafaly 0/00 ? ? ?
boobooililili...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
Sanny wrote:
Looks like Soon energy Problem will be solved, If the Solar Power
continues to drop as in this article.
http://www.getclub.com/Show/view.php?best=Articles&itemid=11
It suggests an efficient Solar Technology has been developed which
is
25% more efficient than previous generation. By 2011 Solar Energy
will
be as cheap as coal.
So we will have less polluted source of Energy which will be cheaper
and save Environment too.
Bye
Sanny
If I had solar power I would have frozen to death last winter.

--
Blattus Slafaly ? 3 Smile 7/8

Then you're way dumb and dumber, as well as snookered and dumbfounded
past the point of no return. Doesn't that make you feel all warm and
fuzzy?
. - Brad Guth
Sorry, but 3 nights and 2 days without sun freezes the water pipes.

Fire was discovered millions of years ago, or do you live in India?

--
Blattus Slafaly ? 3 Smile 7/8

Since local and much less imported fossil derived energy is simply not
an affordable option for many of us, and of anything nuclear simply
isn't there to behold either, are you talking about the burning of
food or perhaps human bodies in order to keep warm?
. - Brad Guth


Wood was also invented, but billion years before fire
William Mook
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:02 am
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"BradGuth" <bradguth@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Sanny wrote:
Looks like Soon energy Problem will be solved, If the Solar Power
continues to drop as in this article.

http://www.getclub.com/Show/view.php?best=Articles&itemid=11

It suggests an efficient Solar Technology has been developed which is
25% more efficient than previous generation. By 2011 Solar Energy will
be as cheap as coal.

So we will have less polluted source of Energy which will be cheaper
and save Environment too.

Bye
Sanny

Whatever you do, don't let William Mook know about any of this, and
for God's don't ever create any h2o2 (hydrogen peroxide) with the
surplus of such clean/renewable energy.
. - Brad Guth



Damn! What's wrong with you guys? Why you like to shit on me?

Willie.
BradGuth
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:48 am
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On Mar 28, 9:02 pm, "William Mook" <WilliamM...@Mook.com> wrote:
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"BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Sanny wrote:
Looks like Soon energy Problem will be solved, If the Solar Power
continues to drop as in this article.

http://www.getclub.com/Show/view.php?best=Articles&itemid=11

It suggests an efficient Solar Technology has been developed which is
25% more efficient than previous generation. By 2011 Solar Energy will
be as cheap as coal.

So we will have less polluted source of Energy which will be cheaper
and save Environment too.

Bye
Sanny

Whatever you do, don't let William Mook know about any of this, and
for God's don't ever create any h2o2 (hydrogen peroxide) with the
surplus of such clean/renewable energy.
. -BradGuth

Damn! What's wrong with you guys? Why you like to shit on me?

Willie.

Just put up, or shut up. That's all we ask of you, that is unless
you'd care to help any of us out with our research instead of making
everything under the sun into yet another all-or-nothing Mook agenda
of having to sustain your status quo or bust.
.. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:37 pm
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On Mar 29, 2:32 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Quote:
William Mook wrote:
Damn! What's wrong with you guys? Why you like to shit on me?

Because you tell lies and make stuff up maybe ?

Graham

Much of what lord Mook has to say isn't so much a lie, as much as it's
an informative rant worth of an ongoing ruse/sting kind of Zionist/
Hitler thing, on behalf of his global domination plot, or else.
Keeping the status quo, and without ever showing a speck of remorse,
is what our William Mook and company is all about.

Those MI5/CIA spooks and Skull and Bones puppeteers couldn't have
employed a better brown-nosed clown if they tried.
.. - Brad Guth
Eeyore
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:32 pm
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William Mook wrote:

Quote:
Damn! What's wrong with you guys? Why you like to shit on me?

Because you tell lies and make stuff up maybe ?

Graham
S F
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:19 pm
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<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:


Sanny wrote:

Looks like Soon energy Problem will be solved, If the Solar Power
continues to drop as in this article.

http://www.getclub.com/Show/view.php?best=Articles&itemid=11

It suggests an efficient Solar Technology has been developed which is
25% more efficient than previous generation. By 2011 Solar Energy will
be as cheap as coal.

So we will have less polluted source of Energy which will be cheaper
and save Environment too.

" 1366 Technologies has created solar cells in its lab that company
scientists are saying are 27% more efficient, bringing down the cost to
$1.30 a watt, beating the current best price of $2.10/watt by a country
mile."

Well ... Firstly the difference between $1.30 and $2.10 is SIXTY ONE
percent ! So for starters, the estimate of $1.30 is a straight LIE.

Also " in its lab " is a LONG way from being in production.

Just more of the usual wishful thinking I reckon.

Graham


There has been allot of Labs for years saying the cost is going down,
finally they all seem to disappear when no investment money flows their way.
Mauried
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:16 pm
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On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:19:01 -0500, "S F" <SF@tx.rr.com> wrote:

Quote:

rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Sanny wrote:

Looks like Soon energy Problem will be solved, If the Solar Power
continues to drop as in this article.

http://www.getclub.com/Show/view.php?best=Articles&itemid=11

It suggests an efficient Solar Technology has been developed which is
25% more efficient than previous generation. By 2011 Solar Energy will
be as cheap as coal.

So we will have less polluted source of Energy which will be cheaper
and save Environment too.

" 1366 Technologies has created solar cells in its lab that company
scientists are saying are 27% more efficient, bringing down the cost to
$1.30 a watt, beating the current best price of $2.10/watt by a country
mile."

Well ... Firstly the difference between $1.30 and $2.10 is SIXTY ONE
percent ! So for starters, the estimate of $1.30 is a straight LIE.

Also " in its lab " is a LONG way from being in production.

Just more of the usual wishful thinking I reckon.

Graham


There has been allot of Labs for years saying the cost is going down,
finally they all seem to disappear when no investment money flows their way.


There is too much confusion about exactly what is being costed.
Does $1 a watt Solar Cells mean Solar Cells that cost $1 a watt to
make , or $1 a watt Solar Cells wholesale price , or $1 a watt Solar
Cells Retail Price .
For example , what is the cost to make per watt of a conventional
Polysilicon Solar Cell, not the wholesale or retail sale cost.
Does anyone actually know , or is it all guesswork.

The other obvious question that no one seems to want to ask.
How many Solar Cells do I have to buy in order to get them for $1 a
watt.

>
BobG
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:52 am
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The guys that own the solar cell factories probably know within a few
cents what their production costs are per wafer, panel, watt, etc. If
they can sell as much as they can make at $5 a watt, there is no
reason to reduce price... when someone gets a warehouse full of panels
and decides to cut em loose for $3 a watt because he needs the storage
space for something more profitable, THEN you have some supply
incentives at work.
Solar Flare
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:11 pm
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Problem is pyramid scheme marketing to the customer.

"BobG" <bobgardner@aol.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
The guys that own the solar cell factories probably know within a few
cents what their production costs are per wafer, panel, watt, etc. If
they can sell as much as they can make at $5 a watt, there is no
reason to reduce price... when someone gets a warehouse full of panels
and decides to cut em loose for $3 a watt because he needs the storage
space for something more profitable, THEN you have some supply
incentives at work.
 
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