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SBC Yahoo
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:00 pm
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When the clinical epidemiologist John Ioannidis published a paper entitled
"Why most published research findings are false" in 2005, he made a lot of
scientists very uncomfortable. The study was the result of 15 years' work
cataloguing the factors that plague the interpretation of scientific
results, such as the misuse of statistics or poor experimental design.
Ioannidis tells Jim Giles why his conclusion is not as depressing as it
appeared, and what he is doing to improve matters

You've been described as the "man who would prove all studies wrong". What
was it like to find yourself in this role?

Overall, the reaction I got was very positive. People should not feel
threatened by me:science is an evolutionary process, and contradiction and
falsification are part of the game. We have tons of literature and a lot of
it will eventually be refuted, but that is not bad news. If a small
proportion is correct and survives then we will have progress.

How did you end up taking on the whole of science?

My parents were physicians and I trained in internal medicine. I wanted to
deal with people and feel that I could improve their health, but I liked
mathematics too. It was difficult for me to choose between the two. Then in
1993, I met Tom Chalmers and Joseph Lau. Tom was one of the first people to
run a clinical trial and probably the first physician to combine the results
of several studies in a meta-analysis - he and Joseph described cumulative
meta-analysis in 1992. They introduced me to the idea of evidence-based
medicine. That meeting had a great influence on me. It showed me how to
inject robust quantitative thinking into clinical work.

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/opinion/mg19726432.000-interview-the-man-who-would-prove-all-studies-wrong.html

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I suppose it all depends upon who the "peers" are that review scientific
papers. But I have said all along that most science is bad science.
Results that do not go along with the pre-conceived conclusion are ignored,
and only supporting ones are used. Sometimes, the facts are altered a bit,
to make the result favorable. Einstein even did this by manufacturing a
"constant" to make his second relativity equations appear to work. No
search for the truth, just a "what crap can we come up with to justify this"
paper.

I think all the peers reviewing scientific works, just like Rodney king,
just want to go along to get along, and science gets hosed in the end. (No
pun intended). Political correctness and don't make waves has combined with
the pressure to crank out volumes of scientific papers, and the credibility
factor has plummeted to near zero for most scientific "authors". From
global warming to wine causes cancer. Tomorrow, they say wine is good for
you, next week they will say beef causes cancer. A year from now they will
say beef does not cause cancer, it you consume less that half a cow a year
(entrails excepted). Society pays through the nose, following all of the
scientists recommendations based on voodoo science, and they change 180
degrees in a couple of years when another voodoo practitioner comes up with
the latest peer reviewed voodoo theory.

Since this guy is a MD/mathematician, he has not looked at geology, yet, I
don't think he understands it, but he may convert a few geo experts to use
his methods of analysis to question the validity of many theories in the
future.

"Of course it is the truth, I make up the truth, that is why it is true"

Augusto Pinochet, Presidente, Dictator, Senator, Chile

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Guest
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:04 pm
On 13 mar, 23:00, "SBC Yahoo" <atilla.the....@liberals.suck.net>
wrote:
Quote:
When the clinical epidemiologist John Ioannidis published a paper entitled
"Why most published research findings are false" in 2005, he made a lot of
scientists very uncomfortable. The study was the result of 15 years' work
cataloguing the factors that plague the interpretation of scientific
results, such as the misuse of statistics or poor experimental design.
Ioannidis tells Jim Giles why his conclusion is not as depressing as it
appeared, and what he is doing to improve matters

You've been described as the "man who would prove all studies wrong". What
was it like to find yourself in this role?

Overall, the reaction I got was very positive. People should not feel
threatened by me:science is an evolutionary process, and contradiction and
falsification are part of the game. We have tons of literature and a lot of
it will eventually be refuted, but that is not bad news. If a small
proportion is correct and survives then we will have progress.

How did you end up taking on the whole of science?

My parents were physicians and I trained in internal medicine. I wanted to
deal with people and feel that I could improve their health, but I liked
mathematics too. It was difficult for me to choose between the two. Then in
1993, I met Tom Chalmers and Joseph Lau. Tom was one of the first people to
run a clinical trial and probably the first physician to combine the results
of several studies in a meta-analysis - he and Joseph described cumulative
meta-analysis in 1992. They introduced me to the idea of evidence-based
medicine. That meeting had a great influence on me. It showed me how to
inject robust quantitative thinking into clinical work.

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/opinion/mg19726432.000-interview-...

- - - - -<><> - - - - -

I suppose it all depends upon who the "peers" are that review scientific
papers.  But I have said all along that most science is bad science.
Results that do not go along with the pre-conceived conclusion are ignored,
and only supporting ones are used.  Sometimes, the facts are altered a bit,
to make the result favorable.  Einstein even did this by manufacturing a
"constant" to make his second relativity equations appear to work.  No
search for the truth, just a "what crap can we come up with to justify this"
paper.

I think all the peers reviewing scientific works, just like Rodney king,
just want to go along to get along, and science gets hosed in the end.  (No
pun intended).  Political correctness and don't make waves has combined with
the pressure to crank out volumes of scientific papers, and the credibility
factor has plummeted to near zero for most scientific "authors".  From
global warming to wine causes cancer.  Tomorrow, they say wine is good for
you, next week they will say beef causes cancer.  A year from now they will
say beef does not cause cancer, it you consume less that half a cow a year
(entrails excepted).  Society pays through the nose, following all of the
scientists recommendations based on voodoo science, and they change 180
degrees in a couple of years when another voodoo practitioner comes up with
the latest peer reviewed voodoo theory.

Since this guy is a MD/mathematician, he has not looked at geology, yet, I
don't think he understands it, but he may convert a few geo experts to use
his methods of analysis to question the validity of many theories in the
future.

"Of course it is the truth, I make up the truth, that is why it is true"

Augusto Pinochet, Presidente, Dictator, Senator, Chile

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Most dizeazezz can be cured in 3 days flat including all types of
cancer ... your guy found nothing at all except the way not to shake
that very tree on which he was hanging !
don findlay
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:08 am
Guest
SBC Yahoo wrote:

Quote:
When the clinical epidemiologist John Ioannidis published a paper entitled
"Why most published research findings are false" in 2005, he made a lot of
scientists very uncomfortable. The study was the result of 15 years' work
cataloguing the factors that plague the interpretation of scientific
results, such as the misuse of statistics or poor experimental design.
Ioannidis tells Jim Giles why his conclusion is not as depressing as it
appeared, and what he is doing to improve matters

You've been described as the "man who would prove all studies wrong". What
was it like to find yourself in this role?

Overall, the reaction I got was very positive. People should not feel
threatened by me:science is an evolutionary process, and contradiction and
falsification are part of the game. We have tons of literature and a lot of
it will eventually be refuted, but that is not bad news. If a small
proportion is correct and survives then we will have progress.

How did you end up taking on the whole of science?

My parents were physicians and I trained in internal medicine. I wanted to
deal with people and feel that I could improve their health, but I liked
mathematics too. It was difficult for me to choose between the two. Then in
1993, I met Tom Chalmers and Joseph Lau. Tom was one of the first people to
run a clinical trial and probably the first physician to combine the results
of several studies in a meta-analysis - he and Joseph described cumulative
meta-analysis in 1992. They introduced me to the idea of evidence-based
medicine. That meeting had a great influence on me. It showed me how to
inject robust quantitative thinking into clinical work.

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/opinion/mg19726432.000-interview-the-man-who-would-prove-all-studies-wrong.html

- - - - -<><> - - - - -

I suppose it all depends upon who the "peers" are that review scientific
papers. But I have said all along that most science is bad science.
Results that do not go along with the pre-conceived conclusion are ignored,
and only supporting ones are used. Sometimes, the facts are altered a bit,
to make the result favorable. Einstein even did this by manufacturing a
"constant" to make his second relativity equations appear to work. No
search for the truth, just a "what crap can we come up with to justify this"
paper.

I think all the peers reviewing scientific works, just like Rodney king,
just want to go along to get along, and science gets hosed in the end. (No
pun intended). Political correctness and don't make waves has combined with
the pressure to crank out volumes of scientific papers, and the credibility
factor has plummeted to near zero for most scientific "authors". From
global warming to wine causes cancer. Tomorrow, they say wine is good for
you, next week they will say beef causes cancer. A year from now they will
say beef does not cause cancer, it you consume less that half a cow a year
(entrails excepted). Society pays through the nose, following all of the
scientists recommendations based on voodoo science, and they change 180
degrees in a couple of years when another voodoo practitioner comes up with
the latest peer reviewed voodoo theory.

Since this guy is a MD/mathematician, he has not looked at geology, yet, I
don't think he understands it, but he may convert a few geo experts to use
his methods of analysis to question the validity of many theories in the
future.

"Of course it is the truth, I make up the truth, that is why it is true"

Augusto Pinochet, Presidente, Dictator, Senator, Chile

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So, ..what are *you* saying?
Sunny
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:37 am
Guest
< Turcaud_Rubber_Room@Sainte_Anne_asylum.fr > wrote in message
news:4be0f4bd-9e31-4cc4-9c1d-51f1cfcaae88@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

Quote:
Most dizeazezz can be cured in 3 days flat including all types of
cancer ... <snip

Not by you, you lying fraud.
Timberwoof
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:59 am
Guest
In article <63pCj.25508$421.7193@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
"Sunny" <wombatlodge@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
Turcaud_Rubber_Room@Sainte_Anne_asylum.fr > wrote in message
news:4be0f4bd-9e31-4cc4-9c1d-51f1cfcaae88@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

Most dizeazezz can be cured in 3 days flat including all types of
cancer ... <snip

Not by you, you lying fraud.

Lying fraud? Or fraudulent liar?

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L.
Guest
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:45 pm
On 14 mar, 16:59, Timberwoof <timberwoof.s...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com>
wrote:
Quote:
In article <63pCj.25508$421.7...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,

 "Sunny" <wombatlo...@gmail.com> wrote:
Turcaud_Rubber_Room@Sainte_Anne_asylum.fr  > wrote in message
news:4be0f4bd-9e31-4cc4-9c1d-51f1cfcaae88@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

Most dizeazezz can be cured in 3 days flat including all types of
cancer ... <snip

Not by you, you lying fraud.

Lying fraud? Or fraudulent liar?

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L.

Did I insult you before, fucking little cunt of timberwood ... why
don't you go back hiding in your rat hole, thinking about yoru
relative idiocies & other evolutionnists mind boggling typically
imbecile theories ..

Replying to the Newmont / Newcrest BHP / Billtion Criminals ' Mole
now :

... not like your Tyrwhitt hero, you australian Manure ( aka sunny )
& Mining Criminals ' supporters !

If not by me by the way, none in the world can claim any such result,
by whom could it be ? By that Antipodean Cunt of Frazer & his cervical
cancer vaccine ?
But as it is none of this will come out by fear the australian manure
at large takes again advantage of it ...
No worry, you won't get it !

The Historical account of the Great Sandy Desert discoveries by the
way of the Mining Criminals as well as the documented answers from the
WA Whorehouse Headcunts : Gallop, Lawrence & Court indicate that the
official claim of the Tyrwhitt is still current ;
Quote
I spotted the site from the air and landed near by in the Desert to
take samples
Unquote

What a fucking Antipodean australian Manure it is indeed : Liars,
Thieves & Criminals

... of course Sir Turcaud found nothing at all in the Great Sandy
Desert, the Mining Criminals found it all from their Twin turboprop
Beech 90 .... and this why they paid me what they called Nonsense
money after having bought my US lawyer, who went immediately
afterwards to join their corporate legal team ... pity they paid so
much ( of which I cleared nothing in fact ) since I was going to sign
for one dollar only .... just to get the official relation of the
connection between the Newmont shit / Manure and Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
on paper


... of course the promised the Royal inquiry in the West Australia
Whorehouse did not take place, as I was expecting .... since the
australian convict rabble ( unknown to me) has no more moral standards
that the average bush fly !

I forgot :
I have developed 2 other interesting things direct application of the
True Geology
1) Prevention to building of the S waves in case of major quakes and
upgrading indeed of existent buildings at a very low cost .... could
save plenty of lives
2) Short term Prevention of tornadoes either from the air or from the
ground, which indeed could be brought to a halt in less than 15
minutes + long term prevention of such by addressing the cause of such
deregulation ( which thanks to the True Geology knowledge is
evident ) .... this could save as well plenty of lives


But due the australian Manure being around and going to jumping on
these inventions, grapping then and running away without a thanks in
their usual australian Criminals ' way .... such discoveries will be
NOT disclosed at all !!!

... pity for the others but this cannot be help since that australia
Criminal Convict Rabble is in ambush to steal, wound and insults in
return for any good



...
Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Discoverer of Telfer, Nifty & Kintyre mines in the Great Sandy Desert

Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant
Founder of the True Geology

~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One never Forgiven ~
Sunny
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:29 am
Guest
< Turcaud_Rubber_Room@Sainte_Anne_asylum.fr > wrote in message
news:b508f3af-cefb-4b48-9e86-86bd7c1c3dae@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On 14 mar, 16:59, Timberwoof <timberwoof.s...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com>
wrote:
Quote:
"Sunny" <wombatlo...@gmail.com> wrote:
Turcaud_Rubber_Room@Sainte_Anne_asylum.fr > wrote in message
Not by you, you lying fraud.

Lying fraud? Or fraudulent liar?

Did I insult you before, fucking little cunt of timberwood/

Jean-Paul Turcaud
Turcaud_Rubber_Room@Sainte_Anne_asylum.fr
Usenet.Kooks achievements :
Victor von Frankenstein "Weird Science" Award, August 2000
Kook of the Month, August 2001
Looney Maroon Award, August 2001
George Pickett Memorial Trophy Award August 2007
Unabomber Surprise runner up August 2007
Wannabe Australia Mining Pioneer
Discoverer of low grade copper ore
Sad embarrassment to all of France **
Founder and sole member of the True Geology
Inventor of UPL - Useless Pontificating Lunatic
DDD - Demented Delusional Drivel
Insane Celtic Lunatic
Self confessed farmer murderer
Psychotic French Spamming Twit
Failed Prediction Nutcase
Failed Drought Maker

QUACK and FRAUD CLAIMS :
water expert
Knight
Healer of all diseases
Mining Pioneer
diamond/gold expert
weather controller
"crop duster"
 
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