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Jean
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:30 am
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Some one with some extra time could download
File: 4969-06-NWNE.las NWNE 06-49N-69W from
http://www.minnelusa.com/sampledata.php
that is the
#31-6 Duvall 8420
and see what is the maximum porosity for the interval 8557 to 8590 feet.
With one method I
get 14% tMatric 54 usec/ft tFluid 200 usec/ft and with an other method
17%

JL
Robert Flory
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:12 pm
Guest
I'm retired and don't have any software handy to handle the data. What are
you looking at. The Minnalusa is tricky stuff for log analysis if you
aren't familiar with the high dead oil (asphalt/heavy asphaltic oil) often
present. Upwards to 35 % sometimes.

RFF
Formerly
Flory & Associates Inc, Gillette Wyoming


"Jean" <jean.lenior@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
news:47cab9f7$0$867$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr...
Quote:
Some one with some extra time could download
File: 4969-06-NWNE.las NWNE 06-49N-69W from
http://www.minnelusa.com/sampledata.php
that is the
#31-6 Duvall 8420
and see what is the maximum porosity for the interval 8557 to 8590 feet.
With one method I
get 14% tMatric 54 usec/ft tFluid 200 usec/ft and with an other
method
17%

JL

Jean
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:11 am
Guest
Robert Flory a écrit dans le message ...
Quote:
I'm retired and don't have any software handy to handle the data. What are
you looking at. The Minnalusa is tricky stuff for log analysis if you
aren't familiar with the high dead oil (asphalt/heavy asphaltic oil) often
present. Upwards to 35 % sometimes.

RFF
Formerly
Flory & Associates Inc, Gillette Wyoming



I have the software (wrote it). The first value I got was using Wylies
formula and the second the
Raymer-Hunt formula. Both return a value that I would guess is way low.
Many years ago I worked
a project west of this area on the folds (thrusts). The highs had been
drilled and pronounced dry until
someone came along with an air drill. The oil was very heavy with almost no
gas pressure and the drilling fluid
on the first attempt forced the oil back into the formation (theory). I was
working for Buttes out of Dallas at the
time and was enthusiastic about the project but the production department
was not saying there was
no refining available for the heavy oil. I wonder if that has now changed.
Did you notice those very high resistivity readings? Thin coal seams??
As an aside! I just got my pub. "1040 forms and instructions for overseas
filers". It was mailed out
of Auckland, New Zealand. Is the US Mail now being out sourced?


JL
limestone-cowboy
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:04 pm
Guest
"was not saying there was no refining available"

come on....get a grip!

"were saying that refining was available"
Robert Flory
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:17 am
Guest
"Jean" <jean.lenior@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
news:47cd0433$0$856$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr...
Quote:

Many years ago I worked > a project west of this area on the folds
(thrusts).
The highs had been drilled and pronounced dry until someone came along
with an air drill. The oil was very heavy with almost no gas pressure and
the drilling fluid on the first attempt forced the oil back into the
formation (theory).

Are we talking Powder River Basin Minnelusa here or overthrust?
I don't think I ever saw what could be called even slightly gasy Minnelusa
above 10,00 feet, never in the Duval Ranch Area. On the other hand that
area isn't really heavy oil either, just moderate PRB asphaltic crude.
Crook County, up the old "D" Road was heavy oil country. Except for the
stuff at 10K or deeper the Minnelusa is prety much water drive. Relative
viscosity makes coning a serious problem if you aren't careful.

Quote:
I was working for Buttes out of Dallas at the time and was enthusiastic
about
the project but the production department was not saying there was
no refining available for the heavy oil.

I'm sure someone takes it. The old Amoco Refinery in casper is no more,
Newcastle never was very big though it did do a good business selling JP-4
to the Air Firce in South Dakota.

Quote:
Did you notice those very high resistivity readings? Thin coal
seams??

No coal in the Minnelusa. Lots of hard dense dolomite, though. Nice sand,
I've seen it so porous (25+) it would wash out when you tried to core it.
That was the same stuff that flowed in on the "anchor" when you tested
water.

Take care when trying to do Minnelusa log interpretation if you don't have
someone who knows the area. There is often a lot of "Dead Oil" that will
screw up interpretation, even when you have moveable oil. I lost track of
the number of times clients let investors from south of Denver push them in
testing "Log Shows" and then couldn't understand why we got thousands of
feet of water and no oil.

At least with new technology the dry hole ratio isn't as high as it was in
the 90's.

Have fun and take care if you want to get into the Minnelusa.

Bob
Jean
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:28 am
Guest
Robert Flory a écrit dans le message ...
Quote:

"Jean" <jean.lenior@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
news:47cd0433$0$856$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr...

Many years ago I worked > a project west of this area on the folds
(thrusts).
The highs had been drilled and pronounced dry until someone came along
with an air drill. The oil was very heavy with almost no gas pressure
and
the drilling fluid on the first attempt forced the oil back into the
formation (theory).

Are we talking Powder River Basin Minnelusa here or overthrust?
I don't think I ever saw what could be called even slightly gasy Minnelusa
above 10,00 feet, never in the Duval Ranch Area. On the other hand that
area isn't really heavy oil either, just moderate PRB asphaltic crude.
Crook County, up the old "D" Road was heavy oil country. Except for the
stuff at 10K or deeper the Minnelusa is prety much water drive. Relative
viscosity makes coning a serious problem if you aren't careful.

I was working for Buttes out of Dallas at the time and was enthusiastic
about
the project but the production department was not saying there was
no refining available for the heavy oil.

I'm sure someone takes it. The old Amoco Refinery in casper is no more,
Newcastle never was very big though it did do a good business selling JP-4
to the Air Firce in South Dakota.

Did you notice those very high resistivity readings? Thin coal
seams??

No coal in the Minnelusa. Lots of hard dense dolomite, though. Nice sand,
I've seen it so porous (25+) it would wash out when you tried to core it.
That was the same stuff that flowed in on the "anchor" when you tested
water.

Take care when trying to do Minnelusa log interpretation if you don't have
someone who knows the area. There is often a lot of "Dead Oil" that will
screw up interpretation, even when you have moveable oil. I lost track of
the number of times clients let investors from south of Denver push them in

testing "Log Shows" and then couldn't understand why we got thousands of
feet of water and no oil.

At least with new technology the dry hole ratio isn't as high as it was in
the 90's.

Have fun and take care if you want to get into the Minnelusa.

Bob




"Are we talking Powder River Basin Minnelusa here or overthrust?"
Overthrust!!
It has been many years so my memory is some what blury! I'm not so much
interested in the Minnelusa but in the well data format. I wrote a program
to load and evaluate data from the *.Las format and those example logs were
available.
Just curious with the new (sky high) price of oil if those areas
(Overthrust) are now worth a re-look.

JL
Robert Flory
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:13 pm
Guest
"Jean" <jean.lenior@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
news:47d795bd$0$899$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr...
Quote:
Overthrust!!
It has been many years so my memory is some what blury! I'm not so much
interested in the Minnelusa but in the well data format. I wrote a
program
to load and evaluate data from the *.Las format and those example logs
were
available.
Just curious with the new (sky high) price of oil if those areas
(Overthrust) are now worth a re-look.

JL
The overthrust is too new to have had everything found. It's an expensive

place to drill. The Bigger play in Wyoming is the deep gas in the greater
Green River Basin.

Bob
 
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