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Ron Gibbs
Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:53 am
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I'm working on the design of solar collection optics, and trying to
calculate the meridional and sagittal angles of the sun (for a given
altitude & elevation) relative to a tilted plane. My brain hurts!

Has anyone out there (maybe working with imaging astronomical objects with a
stationary optical system) done this and/or can point me towards useful
texts/online resources to help with the trigonometry?

TIA
Ron
Ron Gibbs
Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:47 am
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"Ron Gibbs" <ron.gibbs@physics.org> wrote in message
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Quote:
I'm working on the design of solar collection optics, and trying to
calculate the meridional and sagittal angles of the sun (for a given
altitude & elevation) relative to a tilted plane. My brain hurts!

Has anyone out there (maybe working with imaging astronomical objects with
a stationary optical system) done this and/or can point me towards useful
texts/online resources to help with the trigonometry?

TIA
Ron
I now think I can do this, using 3D rotation matrices, and transforms

between spherical polar and cartesian coordinates.
Ron
Phil Hobbs
Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:29 am
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Ron Gibbs wrote:
Quote:
"Ron Gibbs" <ron.gibbs@physics.org> wrote in message
news:47c7f237$0$521$c5fe31e7@reader.usenet4all.se...
I'm working on the design of solar collection optics, and trying to
calculate the meridional and sagittal angles of the sun (for a given
altitude & elevation) relative to a tilted plane. My brain hurts!

Has anyone out there (maybe working with imaging astronomical objects with
a stationary optical system) done this and/or can point me towards useful
texts/online resources to help with the trigonometry?

TIA
Ron
I now think I can do this, using 3D rotation matrices, and transforms
between spherical polar and cartesian coordinates.
Ron


That's how I've done it in the past. It's worth wasting a few cycles to

avoid blunders.

Cheers,

Phil Hobbs
Ron Gibbs
Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:36 am
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"Phil Hobbs" <pcdh@SpamMeSenseless.pergamos.net> wrote in message
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Ron Gibbs wrote:
"Ron Gibbs" <ron.gibbs@physics.org> wrote in message
news:47c7f237$0$521$c5fe31e7@reader.usenet4all.se...
I'm working on the design of solar collection optics, and trying to
calculate the meridional and sagittal angles of the sun (for a given
altitude & elevation) relative to a tilted plane. My brain hurts!

Has anyone out there (maybe working with imaging astronomical objects
with a stationary optical system) done this and/or can point me towards
useful texts/online resources to help with the trigonometry?

TIA
Ron
I now think I can do this, using 3D rotation matrices, and transforms
between spherical polar and cartesian coordinates.
Ron
That's how I've done it in the past. It's worth wasting a few cycles to
avoid blunders.

Cheers,

Phil Hobbs

Thanks Phil. That gives me some confidence I am on the right path, give or
take a few blunders.

Ron
Richard J Kinch
Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:14 pm
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Ron Gibbs writes:

Quote:
Has anyone out there (maybe working with imaging astronomical objects
with a stationary optical system) done this and/or can point me
towards useful texts/online resources to help with the trigonometry?

NOAA has done this for you already. See:

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneYear.html

Part of my astronomic timing project at:

http://www.truetex.com/poolcontrol.htm
Ron Gibbs
Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:18 pm
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"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Ron Gibbs writes:

Has anyone out there (maybe working with imaging astronomical objects
with a stationary optical system) done this and/or can point me
towards useful texts/online resources to help with the trigonometry?

NOAA has done this for you already. See:

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneYear.html

Part of my astronomic timing project at:

http://www.truetex.com/poolcontrol.htm

Thanks, but I found many resources with suchlike solar path calculations
(and more relevant than this one).

I have now solved the coordinate rotation problem, and tested the solution
thoroughly (and invoiced the client!). Busy day.

Ron
 
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