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Guest
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:47 am
http://www.commoninterest.info

Both Parties are controlled by the same international elites, and in
this new, Aquarian Age, we have to meditate, read worthwhile history
(like the Mencken book alluded to below), and make our own informed
choices. And today, the San Francisco Chronicle has exposed the
NeoCon Elite's scheme to use fear and control to centralize power.
Have you ever read anything as Orwellian as this?

"Beginning in 1999, the government has entered into a series of
single-bid contracts with Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and
Root (KBR) to build detention camps at undisclosed locations within
the United States. The government has also contracted with several
companies to build thousands of railcars, some reportedly equipped
with shackles, ostensibly to transport detainees."

And for what reason are concentration camps needed in each state of
the Union?

Sect. 1042 of the 2007 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA),
"Use of the Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies," gives the
executive the power to invoke martial law. For the first time in more
than a century, the president is now authorized to use the military in
response to "a natural disaster, a disease outbreak, a terrorist
attack or any other condition in which the President determines that
domestic violence has occurred to the extent that state officials
cannot maintain public order."

The Military Commissions Act of 2006, rammed through Congress just
before the 2006 midterm elections, allows for the indefinite
imprisonment of anyone who donates money to a charity that turns up on
a list of "terrorist" organizations, or who speaks out against the
government's policies. The law calls for secret trials for citizens
and noncitizens alike.

Also in 2007, the White House quietly issued National Security
Presidential Directive 51 (NSPD-51), to ensure "continuity of
government" in the event of what the document vaguely calls a
"catastrophic emergency." Should the president determine that such an
emergency has occurred, he and he alone is empowered to do whatever he
deems necessary to ensure "continuity of government." This could
include everything from canceling elections to suspending the
Constitution to launching a nuclear attack. Congress has yet to hold a
single hearing on NSPD-51.

And to fill those camps with dissidents, er, I mean, terrorists:

U.S. Rep. Jane Harman, D-Venice (Los Angeles County) has come up
with a new way to expand the domestic "war on terror." Her Violent
Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007, which
passed the House by the lopsided vote, would set up a commission to
"examine and report upon the facts and causes" of so-called violent
radicalism and extremist ideology, then make legislative
recommendations on combatting it.

A clue as to where Harman's commission might be aiming is the
Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act, a law that labels those who "engage
in sit-ins, civil disobedience, trespass, or any other crime in the
name of animal rights" as terrorists. Other groups in the crosshairs
could be anti-abortion protesters, anti-tax agitators, immigration
activists, environmentalists, peace demonstrators, Second Amendment
rights supporters ... the list goes on and on. According to author Naomi
Wolf, the National Counterterrorism Center holds the names of roughly
775,000 "terror suspects" with the number increasing by 20,000 per
month.

The San Francisco Chronicle is a mainstream media company, so no one
can call this conspiracy theory.

There will be more and more dissidents subject to these Police State
laws as dissidents are created by Elite funding of both sides of
advocacy fights. Take the immigration battle: both sides are
controlled. Immigration shouldn't be an issue - our Constitution
grants no Power for the federal govt to interfere in human movement in
or out of the border. All the Founders wanted was a system of
Naturalization by which immigrants could become citizens, and
otherwise Free Trade to make sure no foreigner wanted to kill us and
to ensure a growing economy to employ all the newcomers.
Guest
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:10 pm
On Feb 22, 2:16 pm, Fred Kasner <fkas...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Quote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
http://www.commoninterest.info

Both Parties are controlled by the same international elites, and in
this new, Aquarian Age, we have to meditate, read worthwhile history
(like the Mencken book alluded to below), and make our own informed
choices. And today, the San Francisco Chronicle has exposed the
NeoCon Elite's scheme to use fear and control to centralize power.
Have you ever read anything as Orwellian as this?

"Beginning in 1999, the government has entered into a series of
single-bid contracts with Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and
Root (KBR) to build detention camps at undisclosed locations within
the United States. The government has also contracted with several
companies to build thousands of railcars, some reportedly equipped
with shackles, ostensibly to transport detainees."

And for what reason are concentration camps needed in each state of
the Union?

Sect. 1042 of the 2007 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA),
"Use of the Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies," gives the
executive the power to invoke martial law. For the first time in more
than a century, the president is now authorized to use the military in
response to "a natural disaster, a disease outbreak, a terrorist
attack or any other condition in which the President determines that
domestic violence has occurred to the extent that state officials
cannot maintain public order."

The Military Commissions Act of 2006, rammed through Congress just
before the 2006 midterm elections, allows for the indefinite
imprisonment of anyone who donates money to a charity that turns up on
a list of "terrorist" organizations, or who speaks out against the
government's policies. The law calls for secret trials for citizens
and noncitizens alike.

Also in 2007, the White House quietly issued National Security
Presidential Directive 51 (NSPD-51), to ensure "continuity of
government" in the event of what the document vaguely calls a
"catastrophic emergency." Should the president determine that such an
emergency has occurred, he and he alone is empowered to do whatever he
deems necessary to ensure "continuity of government." This could
include everything from canceling elections to suspending the
Constitution to launching a nuclear attack. Congress has yet to hold a
single hearing on NSPD-51.

And to fill those camps with dissidents, er, I mean, terrorists:

U.S. Rep. Jane Harman, D-Venice (Los Angeles County) has come up
with a new way to expand the domestic "war on terror." Her Violent
Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007, which
passed the House by the lopsided vote, would set up a commission to
"examine and report upon the facts and causes" of so-called violent
radicalism and extremist ideology, then make legislative
recommendations on combatting it.

A clue as to where Harman's commission might be aiming is the
Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act, a law that labels those who "engage
in sit-ins, civil disobedience, trespass, or any other crime in the
name of animal rights" as terrorists. Other groups in the crosshairs
could be anti-abortion protesters, anti-tax agitators, immigration
activists, environmentalists, peace demonstrators, Second Amendment
rights supporters ... the list goes on and on. According to author Naomi
Wolf, the National Counterterrorism Center holds the names of roughly
775,000 "terror suspects" with the number increasing by 20,000 per
month.

The San Francisco Chronicle is a mainstream media company, so no one
can call this conspiracy theory.

There will be more and more dissidents subject to these Police State
laws as dissidents are created by Elite funding of both sides of
advocacy fights. Take the immigration battle: both sides are
controlled. Immigration shouldn't be an issue - our Constitution
grants no Power for the federal govt to interfere in human movement in
or out of the border. All the Founders wanted was a system of
Naturalization by which immigrants could become citizens, and
otherwise Free Trade to make sure no foreigner wanted to kill us and
to ensure a growing economy to employ all the newcomers.

But you never addressed the evidence provided by those who went to the
locations where you previously said there were such "camps" and found
nothing. You shut up after that about that issue. What unmitigated gall
to bring it up again. Chutzpah!
FK


The SF Chronical did it not me.
If at first you do not succeed.....
The slime with the Chutzpuh is the one who signed it into law.
Now we have to fight fire with fire.
Too bad old farts you likely won't be around for the fireworks.
Lucky you.
Fred Kasner
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:16 pm
Guest
knews4u2chew@yahoo.com wrote:
Quote:
http://www.commoninterest.info

Both Parties are controlled by the same international elites, and in
this new, Aquarian Age, we have to meditate, read worthwhile history
(like the Mencken book alluded to below), and make our own informed
choices. And today, the San Francisco Chronicle has exposed the
NeoCon Elite's scheme to use fear and control to centralize power.
Have you ever read anything as Orwellian as this?

"Beginning in 1999, the government has entered into a series of
single-bid contracts with Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and
Root (KBR) to build detention camps at undisclosed locations within
the United States. The government has also contracted with several
companies to build thousands of railcars, some reportedly equipped
with shackles, ostensibly to transport detainees."

And for what reason are concentration camps needed in each state of
the Union?

Sect. 1042 of the 2007 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA),
"Use of the Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies," gives the
executive the power to invoke martial law. For the first time in more
than a century, the president is now authorized to use the military in
response to "a natural disaster, a disease outbreak, a terrorist
attack or any other condition in which the President determines that
domestic violence has occurred to the extent that state officials
cannot maintain public order."

The Military Commissions Act of 2006, rammed through Congress just
before the 2006 midterm elections, allows for the indefinite
imprisonment of anyone who donates money to a charity that turns up on
a list of "terrorist" organizations, or who speaks out against the
government's policies. The law calls for secret trials for citizens
and noncitizens alike.

Also in 2007, the White House quietly issued National Security
Presidential Directive 51 (NSPD-51), to ensure "continuity of
government" in the event of what the document vaguely calls a
"catastrophic emergency." Should the president determine that such an
emergency has occurred, he and he alone is empowered to do whatever he
deems necessary to ensure "continuity of government." This could
include everything from canceling elections to suspending the
Constitution to launching a nuclear attack. Congress has yet to hold a
single hearing on NSPD-51.

And to fill those camps with dissidents, er, I mean, terrorists:

U.S. Rep. Jane Harman, D-Venice (Los Angeles County) has come up
with a new way to expand the domestic "war on terror." Her Violent
Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007, which
passed the House by the lopsided vote, would set up a commission to
"examine and report upon the facts and causes" of so-called violent
radicalism and extremist ideology, then make legislative
recommendations on combatting it.

A clue as to where Harman's commission might be aiming is the
Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act, a law that labels those who "engage
in sit-ins, civil disobedience, trespass, or any other crime in the
name of animal rights" as terrorists. Other groups in the crosshairs
could be anti-abortion protesters, anti-tax agitators, immigration
activists, environmentalists, peace demonstrators, Second Amendment
rights supporters ... the list goes on and on. According to author Naomi
Wolf, the National Counterterrorism Center holds the names of roughly
775,000 "terror suspects" with the number increasing by 20,000 per
month.

The San Francisco Chronicle is a mainstream media company, so no one
can call this conspiracy theory.

There will be more and more dissidents subject to these Police State
laws as dissidents are created by Elite funding of both sides of
advocacy fights. Take the immigration battle: both sides are
controlled. Immigration shouldn't be an issue - our Constitution
grants no Power for the federal govt to interfere in human movement in
or out of the border. All the Founders wanted was a system of
Naturalization by which immigrants could become citizens, and
otherwise Free Trade to make sure no foreigner wanted to kill us and
to ensure a growing economy to employ all the newcomers.

But you never addressed the evidence provided by those who went to the
locations where you previously said there were such "camps" and found
nothing. You shut up after that about that issue. What unmitigated gall
to bring it up again. Chutzpah!
FK
JackneySneeb@gmail.com
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:04 am
Guest
The US set up concentration camps for Japanese Americans
rather hastily, and it could do it again to isolate "dissidents."
JackneySneeb@gmail.com
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:44 am
Guest
On Feb 23, 12:17 pm, Fred Kasner <fkas...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Quote:
I look forward to dancing
on your grave.
FK

Don't worry about me dancing on your grave. When I left the army,
I promised myself not to stand in any more lines.
Fred Kasner
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:17 pm
Guest
.... snip ...
Quote:

The SF Chronical did it not me.
If at first you do not succeed.....
The slime with the Chutzpuh is the one who signed it into law.
Now we have to fight fire with fire.
Too bad old farts you likely won't be around for the fireworks.
Lucky you.

Actually they closed down the "camps" long ago and dumped the "camp"
inhabitants on the streets. They were called "asylums" in those days.
And nuts like you inhabited them. Since you were never a threat to
anyone you were not sent to one. But the delusional who were threats
were kept in those "camps" and I suspect that we will, one day, lock up
the delusionals again. I strongly suspect that at that time they will
also scoop up the political delusionals as well as those who are are so
naive that they support all sorts of conspiracy theories. That is when
you get sent to one of the "camps". They will use the excuse that you
are threatening armed resistance to being incarcerated. Don't worry
about me, I may very well be around longer than you. Longevity is great
in my father's side of the family. His father a man who although
apparently not a drunk (seemed sober all the time) consumed large
quantities of the stuff and lived to the age of 86 when his liver
failed. My father's mother while a diabetic still lived to the age of
103. Her mother had made it to 113. My mother while a generally sick
person with many ailments still made it to 92. I look forward to dancing
on your grave.
FK
Fred Kasner
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:59 pm
Guest
JackneySneeb@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
On Feb 23, 12:17 pm, Fred Kasner <fkas...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I look forward to dancing
on your grave.
FK

Don't worry about me dancing on your grave. When I left the army,
I promised myself not to stand in any more lines.


Yeah I made that same promise to my self when I left the army. Found it
impossible to keep the promise to myself.

I doubt that there will be many aware of my demise as I have outlived
most of my friends and almost all of my enemies.
FK
tankfixer
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:09 pm
Guest
In article <47deea51-ed50-4ca8-a55f-
c38813f6ad9f@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, knews4u2chew@yahoo.com
says...
Quote:
On Feb 22, 2:16 pm, Fred Kasner <fkas...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
http://www.commoninterest.info

Both Parties are controlled by the same international elites, and in
this new, Aquarian Age, we have to meditate, read worthwhile history
(like the Mencken book alluded to below), and make our own informed
choices. And today, the San Francisco Chronicle has exposed the
NeoCon Elite's scheme to use fear and control to centralize power.
Have you ever read anything as Orwellian as this?

"Beginning in 1999, the government has entered into a series of
single-bid contracts with Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and
Root (KBR) to build detention camps at undisclosed locations within
the United States. The government has also contracted with several
companies to build thousands of railcars, some reportedly equipped
with shackles, ostensibly to transport detainees."

And for what reason are concentration camps needed in each state of
the Union?

Sect. 1042 of the 2007 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA),
"Use of the Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies," gives the
executive the power to invoke martial law. For the first time in more
than a century, the president is now authorized to use the military in
response to "a natural disaster, a disease outbreak, a terrorist
attack or any other condition in which the President determines that
domestic violence has occurred to the extent that state officials
cannot maintain public order."

The Military Commissions Act of 2006, rammed through Congress just
before the 2006 midterm elections, allows for the indefinite
imprisonment of anyone who donates money to a charity that turns up on
a list of "terrorist" organizations, or who speaks out against the
government's policies. The law calls for secret trials for citizens
and noncitizens alike.

Also in 2007, the White House quietly issued National Security
Presidential Directive 51 (NSPD-51), to ensure "continuity of
government" in the event of what the document vaguely calls a
"catastrophic emergency." Should the president determine that such an
emergency has occurred, he and he alone is empowered to do whatever he
deems necessary to ensure "continuity of government." This could
include everything from canceling elections to suspending the
Constitution to launching a nuclear attack. Congress has yet to hold a
single hearing on NSPD-51.

And to fill those camps with dissidents, er, I mean, terrorists:

U.S. Rep. Jane Harman, D-Venice (Los Angeles County) has come up
with a new way to expand the domestic "war on terror." Her Violent
Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007, which
passed the House by the lopsided vote, would set up a commission to
"examine and report upon the facts and causes" of so-called violent
radicalism and extremist ideology, then make legislative
recommendations on combatting it.

A clue as to where Harman's commission might be aiming is the
Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act, a law that labels those who "engage
in sit-ins, civil disobedience, trespass, or any other crime in the
name of animal rights" as terrorists. Other groups in the crosshairs
could be anti-abortion protesters, anti-tax agitators, immigration
activists, environmentalists, peace demonstrators, Second Amendment
rights supporters ... the list goes on and on. According to author Naomi
Wolf, the National Counterterrorism Center holds the names of roughly
775,000 "terror suspects" with the number increasing by 20,000 per
month.

The San Francisco Chronicle is a mainstream media company, so no one
can call this conspiracy theory.

There will be more and more dissidents subject to these Police State
laws as dissidents are created by Elite funding of both sides of
advocacy fights. Take the immigration battle: both sides are
controlled. Immigration shouldn't be an issue - our Constitution
grants no Power for the federal govt to interfere in human movement in
or out of the border. All the Founders wanted was a system of
Naturalization by which immigrants could become citizens, and
otherwise Free Trade to make sure no foreigner wanted to kill us and
to ensure a growing economy to employ all the newcomers.

But you never addressed the evidence provided by those who went to the
locations where you previously said there were such "camps" and found
nothing. You shut up after that about that issue. What unmitigated gall
to bring it up again. Chutzpah!
FK


The SF Chronical did it not me.

Dodging responsibility now eh ?

Besides, they didnt confirm squat. they simply reguritated the loon
stories.

Quote:
If at first you do not succeed.....
The slime with the Chutzpuh is the one who signed it into law.
Now we have to fight fire with fire.
Too bad old farts you likely won't be around for the fireworks.
Lucky you.
 
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