On Feb 4, 2:22 am, Curly Surmudgeon <Curly.is....@home.com> wrote:
On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:32:42 -0800, hhc314 wrote:
On Feb 2, 8:35 pm, Curly Surmudgeon <Curly.is....@home.com> wrote:
On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 11:35:05 -0800, knews4u2chew wrote:
http://podblanc.com/?q=node/13519
The inmates are running the Asylum.
Natural progression when the police become militarized. Nobody
should be surprised. Beat cops aren't hired for intelligence, to
the contrary they are hired for obedience. Again, don't blame the
grunts, blame the policy makers and leaders.
-- Regards, Curly
Curly, I tend to agree with your post, but do not fail to realize that
many of those beat cops become more savy than many technical
professionals about what takes place on the streets. I seriously
admire the vast majority of them, since they are the very first to
come to your help when you seriously need help.
"IS," Intelligence Savy, is different than Intelligence Quotient or
Emotional Quotient. I'll agree that IS is an important tool in "law"
enforcement and that the majority of cops are trying to do the right
thing as they believe it to be.
Three of my cousins were cops, good cops, now retired. One has been
shot another lost 85% use of his left forearm in the line of duty. I'm
not anti-cop, I'm anti-cowboy.
With good leaders and direction this shit wouldn't be happening.
Boston's beat cops and traffic cops are noted for being tough, and not
good guys to fool around with. They seem to have this unique ability
to judge people by simply looking at them, than does a trained
psychologist with years of experience. I live in the 'burbs, but when
in Boston City (as we 'burb dwellers call it), our family has had only
3 encounters with the guys that police the streets...all beneficial.
The undercover police that protect the Farmer's Market and Quincy
Market are also spectacular. No need to go into the details.
Now I have not been able to view the link that knews4u2c posted, but I
am quite sure that what took place was appropriate to the
curcumstances at hand, since the press is notorious for not mentioning
all the details. This is not just on blind faith, but what police
officers are going to risk all of their career benefits (and frankly,
these are about as good as benefits and retirements get), for breaking
a rule. Quite likely, some factor that went unmentioned in the article
justified a strip search.
Perhaps I'm reading more into this than was implied but my take on the
video was that they though she was suicidal and removed her clothing to
prevent hanging herself. That's a ridiculous assumption but the kind
that might cause such a scenario. Then they fucked up the proceedure
by using force and male officers with other males looking on.
Remember, this lady _called_ the police _herself_! Her "crime" was
giving the office her dead sister's drivers license when asked for hers.
Given that she was already terrified (she called 911 remember) and
probably not thinking clearly her explanation was reasonable and she had
no reason to lie about her identity, she was a wife and homemaker.
The cops made a huge blunder, they became a mob attacking a 125lb woman.
Those cops, their department, the municipality, the mayor, and the
janitor are going to pay big-time.
This is a natural outcome with recent moves by the feds to militarize
our local police forces. Arming them with helicopters, chemical
weapons, rubber bullets, tazers, bean bag shotguns, stun grenades,
M-14's, warranteless searches, and training to abuse all these new toys.
This kind of crime was/is inevitable, pre-ordained. It's not the cops
fault, its the leaders who put draconian laws into effect, fascists into
office, and use fear to cow the populace. Illegal laws too, nobody
should submit to bad law or police authority misused or misplaced.
Ultimately the fault is those who voted these politicians into power.
I have no way of knowing if it did, but I do have a neighbor who is a
police officer, and he definitely hold the view that you never want to
get closer to an offender than duty requires. This risk of contracting
some disease or being charged with abuse of authority is simply too
great. That makes simple sense to me.
I had a cop neighbor too, the bad kind. Had the whole neighborhood
intimidated. No longer do I want one as a neighbor. The risk of
peace and tranquility is just too great.
Let's not be inclined to pass judgement until we know ALL of the
facts, and right now I know none of them except knews4u2c's headline,
which if it is similar to the majority of his posts is not very
credible.
Harry C.
In this case police action is so over the top that facts aren't
relevant. There is no excuse for this brutality.
-- Regards, Curly
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Curly, that may very well be true, but I have not yet read the police
reports, only the reports from the mediat which have been knon to tend to
spin and distort the facts.
Before passing judgement, I would prefer to know what ALL of the facts
are.
Harry C.
