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respite

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:15 am

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Hello

I'm french farmer and I have a lot of difficulty to find information
about drying corn with corn residues. Why ? Because I can't translate
the "thing" that rest when there are no more grains on a corn cob ! My
aim is to burn this thing (Can anybody tell me how it is called in
english ? French is "Rafle") for drying my corn.

Thanks

Dean Hoffman

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:35 am

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In article
<621a9ce7-ec26-4e16-b2f7-ddf7d9645fd7@g30g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
respite <larespite@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

The online translators say the English word is "raid". That's not
part of a corn plant at least in American. British English and American
English don't always match up word for word.
A couple online translators here: http://tinyurl.com/47b
http://tinyurl.com/7ng2x
The crop residue left in the field after harvest is generally called
"corn stover".

Dean

respite

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:00 am

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On 29 nov, 14:35, Dean Hoffman <dh0496@ine&%bras#ka.com> wrote:

Quote:

In article
621a9ce7-ec26-4e16-b2f7-ddf7d9645...@g30g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,

respite <laresp...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello

I'm french farmer and I have a lot of difficulty to find information
about drying corn with corn residues. Why ? Because I can't translate
the "thing" that rest when there are no more grains on a corn cob ! My
aim is to burn this thing (Can anybody tell me how it is called in
english ? French is "Rafle") for drying my corn.

Thanks

The online translators say the English word is "raid". That's not
part of a corn plant at least in American. British English and American
English don't always match up word for word.
A couple online translators here: http://tinyurl.com/47bhttp://tinyurl.com/7ng2x
The crop residue left in the field after harvest is generally called
"corn stover".

Dean

Thanks for response. I supposed it was "stover" but I didn't find
information on drying corn with corn stover so that I wasn't sure
about translation. Do you know this type of dryer?

Dean Hoffman

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:30 pm

Guest

In article
<1a2028db-8bf3-4590-9c83-b264ad727e70@y20g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
respite <larespite@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

On 29 nov, 14:35, Dean Hoffman <dh0496@ine&%bras#ka.com> wrote:
In article
621a9ce7-ec26-4e16-b2f7-ddf7d9645...@g30g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,

respite <laresp...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello

I'm french farmer and I have a lot of difficulty to find information
about drying corn with corn residues. Why ? Because I can't translate
the "thing" that rest when there are no more grains on a corn cob ! My
aim is to burn this thing (Can anybody tell me how it is called in
english ? French is "Rafle") for drying my corn.

Thanks

The online translators say the English word is "raid". That's not
part of a corn plant at least in American. British English and American
English don't always match up word for word.
A couple online translators here:
http://tinyurl.com/47bhttp://tinyurl.com/7ng2x
The crop residue left in the field after harvest is generally called
"corn stover".

Dean

Thanks for response. I supposed it was "stover" but I didn't find
information on drying corn with corn stover so that I wasn't sure
about translation. Do you know this type of dryer?

No. I've never heard of it. Some corn stover here in the mid
U.S. is used as animal feed. There are some companies starting to use
it to make ethanol. It's pretty much still experimental, I think.
Most crop residue is just left out in the fields.
My parents talked of burning the kernel part in stoves during the
Great Depression (1930s) for home heating. Some modern stoves can burn
corn kernels or wood pellets.
Some farmers in my area rely on natural air drying. The ones that
use heat use propane or natural gas for fuel.
I'll crosspost this to the misc.rural group. There are a few
American farmers there in amongst all the garbage posters.

Dean

Neon John

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:19 pm

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Quote:

respite <laresp...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello

I'm french farmer and I have a lot of difficulty to find information
about drying corn with corn residues. Why ? Because I can't translate
the "thing" that rest when there are no more grains on a corn cob ! My
aim is to burn this thing (Can anybody tell me how it is called in
english ? French is "Rafle") for drying my corn.

Looks like "Rafle" means "cob" as in "corn cob". Here's a canadian patent title in
french and English that appears to reinforce my high school French Smile

"RAFLE DE
MAIS" appears to literally mean "cob of the corn".

http://patents.ic.gc.ca/cipo/cpd/en/patent/2277695/summary.html

The other parts of the ear of corn are the husks, the outer covering and the silk,
the reproductive fibers that run along the rows of kernels underneath the husks.

John
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Larry Caldwell

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:14 pm

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In article <dh0496-524BC9.19304529112007@news.inebraska.com>, dh0496
@ine&%bras#ka.com (Dean Hoffman) says...

Quote:

In article
1a2028db-8bf3-4590-9c83-b264ad727e70@y20g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
respite <larespite@gmail.com> wrote:

On 29 nov, 14:35, Dean Hoffman <dh0496@ine&%bras#ka.com> wrote:
In article
621a9ce7-ec26-4e16-b2f7-ddf7d9645...@g30g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,

respite <laresp...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello

I'm french farmer and I have a lot of difficulty to find information
about drying corn with corn residues. Why ? Because I can't translate
the "thing" that rest when there are no more grains on a corn cob ! My
aim is to burn this thing (Can anybody tell me how it is called in
english ? French is "Rafle") for drying my corn.

Thanks

The online translators say the English word is "raid". That's not
part of a corn plant at least in American. British English and American
English don't always match up word for word.
A couple online translators here:
http://tinyurl.com/47bhttp://tinyurl.com/7ng2x
The crop residue left in the field after harvest is generally called
"corn stover".

Dean

Thanks for response. I supposed it was "stover" but I didn't find
information on drying corn with corn stover so that I wasn't sure
about translation. Do you know this type of dryer?

No. I've never heard of it. Some corn stover here in the mid
U.S. is used as animal feed. There are some companies starting to use
it to make ethanol. It's pretty much still experimental, I think.
Most crop residue is just left out in the fields.
My parents talked of burning the kernel part in stoves during the
Great Depression (1930s) for home heating. Some modern stoves can burn
corn kernels or wood pellets.
Some farmers in my area rely on natural air drying. The ones that
use heat use propane or natural gas for fuel.
I'll crosspost this to the misc.rural group. There are a few
American farmers there in amongst all the garbage posters.

My mother tells me that they used to burn corn cobs in the wood stove in
the summer. Cobs gave a quick, hot fire, and went out quickly leaving
no coals. They had lots of cobs in the days before corn headers on
combines. They stored the dried corn on the cob in a "corn crib" in the
barn, and shelled it as needed.

I suppose dried corn stover would burn about the same as cobs. In the
right climate it would air dry. I don't know of anyone who uses stover
for fuel, because it would take a nearly continuous feed to keep it
burning. On a small scale, it would frequently plug the transport
system, though I can see how large scale burners could handle it.

I know of a coal fired power plant with fluid bed burners that is being
modified to accept 10% biomass. Just adding that 10% of biomass is
going to almost double the physical volume of fuel burned by the plant.
Handling the biomass, keeping it dry, and disposing of the extra ash
presents some non-trivial technical problems.

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respite

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:51 am

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Thanks everyone for your response. I was finishing haresting my corn
(with lot of problem of frozen corn grrrrr...).
Well I'm happy to see you are interested by this subject. I have some
trouble to translate your response but it's good to perform my
english.
I have to meet a business men this week to deal about this system. His
company has developped a biomass burner with which we can use the hot
air to dry corn and in paralell we can use biogaz to product
electricitie. I could inform you about that if you enjoy.

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