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Guest
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:36 am
On Oct 6, 11:21 pm, Dan Bloomquist <publi...@lakeweb.com> wrote:

It isn't repitition.
It's examples of different experimenters and aspects of the process.
Anyone can contact the issuers of the videos and ask how they obtained
their results.
Many of the experimenters are working together and are using forum
websites to post their results and help other experimenters.
Fred Kasner
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:44 pm
Guest
Bill Ward wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:47:07 -0500, Fred Kasner wrote:

hhc314@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 5, 10:54 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 5, 7:22 pm, hhc...@yahoo.com wrote:





On Oct 5, 9:04 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 5, 2:29 pm, Fred Kasner <fkas...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 4, 3:06 pm, hhc...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 3, 7:54 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
But in this case I don't mean Wilson, Mafia, Thomas and the other
Chat-
tards...http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2007/031007_seven_retards...
Out of curiousity JW, aren't you already wekk known as "king of
the retards" or "junior dummy"?
Harry C.
I know you think you know who I am CONman but your lies here are
legend so it matters little who I am or who JW is. What happened to
the rest of your clan of cronies? Are you the last CONman standing?
Still laughing at you, JW. Your recent series of posts show you are
incapable of sloughing off your old vocabulary (it identifies you
without doubt, e.g. "banksters") and so cannot shake the clear fact
that you are the ulitimate junior dummy, JW. You continued denials
only make you futher foolish in the eyes of just about everybody in
this news group. People such as you have so polluted this newsgroup
with nonsense that the original purpose of this NG is just about
totallyh lost and so doesn't attract much attention for those who
would discuss any possible uses of hydrogen as an - negative net -
energy source. But then again it is now clear that you are either an
indefatigable troll or a hopelessly mentally ill nuisance. Take your
choice: you can't be identified as anything but either of these.
Your insistence on being a purveyor of truth is laughable. FK- Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Sure Freddy.
BUT YOU DIDN'T TOUCH THIS DID
YOU?http://www.physorg.com/news110191847.html "Water undoubtedly is
the most important chemical substance in the world," explained Elmar
Fuchs and colleagues from the Graz University of Technology in
Austria in a recent study. "The interaction of water with electric
fields has been intensely explored over the last years. We report
another unusual effect of liquid water exposed to a dc electric
field: the floating water bridge." When exposed to a high-voltage
electric field, water in two beakers climbs out of the beakers and
crosses empty space to meet, forming the
water bridge. The liquid bridge, hovering in space, appears to the
human eye to defy gravity.
SNIP>- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
As most readers have learned over the many years that your nonsense
has been posted on sci.enegy.hyrogen, you haven't event learned even
the hint of of a clue about the many subject that many people better
informed than yourslelf have freely explained to you. My guess is
simply that you are either too stupid or too close minded to learn,
for the first time, even simple scientific facts. You are evidently
too ignorant to realize that pure water is a pretty good insulator,
and does not respond to the application of an electric field to the
extent that you have described, no more than a block of teflon or a
high vacuum does. The effects of the high voltage electric fiels to
water have been widely documented in every textbook on the the
subjects of electrical fields publish since back around 1910, If you
really wished to learn about this subject, you would have consultemd
G.P. Harnwell's "Principles of Electricity and Electromagnetism" first
published 1949. You make yourself look rather parthetic when you call
your critics silly, infantile names. Evidently your are either too
stupid, ignorant, or provincial to realize this. Most readers simply
skip over your silly, infantile posts, but it it makes you feel
better, be my guest to posts them and make more of an idiot of
yourself. If you want to know why I call you JW, it is simply because
that that is the user name that you employed back years ago, when you
and Hannon were posting on the Stan Meyer's Dune Buggy scam, and
Hannon was posting mostly about the 'Brown's Gas' scam, until he
suffered an accident in the process and has not been frequently heard
from since those days. JW, I know precisely who you are simply by you
posting style, which you will find hard to change. So, if you are not
JW, what are your fellings about the Stan Meyer's scam? Is'nt it true
that he scammed you, and died while stuffing food down his greedy
piehole without ever confessing to his scam. Isn''t it true that you
were totally 'taken in' by this ignorant, hillbilly, scam artist?
What does that say about your credibility? Your intelligence? Your
education?
Be honest in your response, if you are capable of ever making an
honest post.
Harry C.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
And you guys still never took a successful experiumenter to task just
like you are not addressing the other posted info about the effects of
voltage on the water molecule.

Nice try CONman.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Actually JW, the effects of high voltage on water molecules has been
well known and documented in the literature for close to 100 years,
possible more. Only the crackpot scammer Stan Meyers, though his
terminal ignorance thought claimed otherwise. Then too, good old Stan
was a confidence artist who ripped-off ignorant folks like yourself for
every nickel that he could get out of them.

Guess what JW, there is still no car that runs on water as a fuel, and
there will never be any.

Damn, you are so dumb. Now since Mike Hannon is gone, I tend to believe
that you should be promoted from being the "junior dummy" to being the
"senior dummy" in this newsgroup.

JW, don't you ever grow tired of making a fool of yourself?

Harry C

Seconded, Harry. In the future he is the senior dummy. FK

I don't know, Fred. Are you sure he's ready for that much responsibility?


He has been irresponsible from the beginning. why should be hold back now?
FK
Fred Kasner
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:47 pm
Guest
knews4u2chew@yahoo.com wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 6, 6:23 pm, Bill Ward <bw...@REMOVETHISix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:47:07 -0500, Fred Kasner wrote:
hhc...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 5, 10:54 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 5, 7:22 pm, hhc...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 5, 9:04 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 5, 2:29 pm, Fred Kasner <fkas...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 4, 3:06 pm, hhc...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 3, 7:54 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
But in this case I don't mean Wilson, Mafia, Thomas and the other
Chat-
tards...http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2007/031007_seven_retards...
Out of curiousity JW, aren't you already wekk known as "king of
the retards" or "junior dummy"?
Harry C.
I know you think you know who I am CONman but your lies here are
legend so it matters little who I am or who JW is. What happened to
the rest of your clan of cronies? Are you the last CONman standing?
Still laughing at you, JW. Your recent series of posts show you are
incapable of sloughing off your old vocabulary (it identifies you
without doubt, e.g. "banksters") and so cannot shake the clear fact
that you are the ulitimate junior dummy, JW. You continued denials
only make you futher foolish in the eyes of just about everybody in
this news group. People such as you have so polluted this newsgroup
with nonsense that the original purpose of this NG is just about
totallyh lost and so doesn't attract much attention for those who
would discuss any possible uses of hydrogen as an - negative net -
energy source. But then again it is now clear that you are either an
indefatigable troll or a hopelessly mentally ill nuisance. Take your
choice: you can't be identified as anything but either of these.
Your insistence on being a purveyor of truth is laughable. FK- Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Sure Freddy.
BUT YOU DIDN'T TOUCH THIS DID
YOU?http://www.physorg.com/news110191847.html"Water undoubtedly is
the most important chemical substance in the world," explained Elmar
Fuchs and colleagues from the Graz University of Technology in
Austria in a recent study. "The interaction of water with electric
fields has been intensely explored over the last years. We report
another unusual effect of liquid water exposed to a dc electric
field: the floating water bridge." When exposed to a high-voltage
electric field, water in two beakers climbs out of the beakers and
crosses empty space to meet, forming the
water bridge. The liquid bridge, hovering in space, appears to the
human eye to defy gravity.
SNIP>- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
As most readers have learned over the many years that your nonsense
has been posted on sci.enegy.hyrogen, you haven't event learned even
the hint of of a clue about the many subject that many people better
informed than yourslelf have freely explained to you. My guess is
simply that you are either too stupid or too close minded to learn,
for the first time, even simple scientific facts. You are evidently
too ignorant to realize that pure water is a pretty good insulator,
and does not respond to the application of an electric field to the
extent that you have described, no more than a block of teflon or a
high vacuum does. The effects of the high voltage electric fiels to
water have been widely documented in every textbook on the the
subjects of electrical fields publish since back around 1910, If you
really wished to learn about this subject, you would have consultemd
G.P. Harnwell's "Principles of Electricity and Electromagnetism" first
published 1949. You make yourself look rather parthetic when you call
your critics silly, infantile names. Evidently your are either too
stupid, ignorant, or provincial to realize this. Most readers simply
skip over your silly, infantile posts, but it it makes you feel
better, be my guest to posts them and make more of an idiot of
yourself. If you want to know why I call you JW, it is simply because
that that is the user name that you employed back years ago, when you
and Hannon were posting on the Stan Meyer's Dune Buggy scam, and
Hannon was posting mostly about the 'Brown's Gas' scam, until he
suffered an accident in the process and has not been frequently heard
from since those days. JW, I know precisely who you are simply by you
posting style, which you will find hard to change. So, if you are not
JW, what are your fellings about the Stan Meyer's scam? Is'nt it true
that he scammed you, and died while stuffing food down his greedy
piehole without ever confessing to his scam. Isn''t it true that you
were totally 'taken in' by this ignorant, hillbilly, scam artist?
What does that say about your credibility? Your intelligence? Your
education?
Be honest in your response, if you are capable of ever making an
honest post.
Harry C.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
And you guys still never took a successful experiumenter to task just
like you are not addressing the other posted info about the effects of
voltage on the water molecule.
Nice try CONman.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Actually JW, the effects of high voltage on water molecules has been
well known and documented in the literature for close to 100 years,
possible more. Only the crackpot scammer Stan Meyers, though his
terminal ignorance thought claimed otherwise. Then too, good old Stan
was a confidence artist who ripped-off ignorant folks like yourself for
every nickel that he could get out of them.
Guess what JW, there is still no car that runs on water as a fuel, and
there will never be any.
Damn, you are so dumb. Now since Mike Hannon is gone, I tend to believe
that you should be promoted from being the "junior dummy" to being the
"senior dummy" in this newsgroup.
JW, don't you ever grow tired of making a fool of yourself?
Harry C
Seconded, Harry. In the future he is the senior dummy. FK
I don't know, Fred. Are you sure he's ready for that much responsibility?

Yup, keep up the ad hominem but don't address the articles,
experimenters, and researchers.
Or the successful Water Fuel Cell builders.
http://www.h2earth.org/main.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md8-wvV2jHM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9XrLOudwRw&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiA4z_Kpgg4&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJPE6d2R9uo&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fFp3CJZMTw&mode=related&search=

But they're all just a bunch of "scammers" trying to sell videos on
youtube right?
You fossil "scientists" haven't the foggiest idea of what goes on in a
Meyer cell and will go to your graves thinking you know it all, and
that nothing new will ever be discovered.


And by this are we to assume that you know what goes on in such a
"device"? You who has trouble distinguishing a volt from an electron
volt (a potential from an energy) is going to lecture us on the
superiority of not only your knowledge but your judgment as well? You
are a hopeless imbecile as well as the newly anointed senior dummy.
FK
Fred Kasner
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:48 pm
Guest
knews4u2chew@yahoo.com wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 6, 12:42 pm, Fred Kasner <fkas...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 5, 2:29 pm, Fred Kasner <fkas...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 4, 3:06 pm, hhc...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 3, 7:54 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
But in this case I don't mean Wilson, Mafia, Thomas and the other Chat-
tards...http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2007/031007_seven_retards...
Out of curiousity JW, aren't you already wekk known as "king of the
retards" or "junior dummy"?
Harry C.
I know you think you know who I am CONman but your lies here are
legend so it matters little who I am or who JW is.
What happened to the rest of your clan of cronies?
Are you the last CONman standing?
Still laughing at you, JW. Your recent series of posts show you are
incapable of sloughing off your old vocabulary (it identifies you
without doubt, e.g. "banksters") and so cannot shake the clear fact that
you are the ulitimate junior dummy, JW.
You continued denials only make you futher foolish in the eyes of just
about everybody in this news group. People such as you have so polluted
this newsgroup with nonsense that the original purpose of this NG is
just about totallyh lost and so doesn't attract much attention for those
who would discuss any possible uses of hydrogen as an - negative net -
energy source. But then again it is now clear that you are either an
indefatigable troll or a hopelessly mentally ill nuisance. Take your
choice: you can't be identified as anything but either of these. Your
insistence on being a purveyor of truth is laughable.
FK- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Sure Freddy.
BUT YOU DIDN'T TOUCH THIS DID YOU?
http://www.physorg.com/news110191847.html
"Water undoubtedly is the most important chemical substance in the
world," explained Elmar Fuchs and colleagues from the Graz University
of Technology in Austria in a recent study. "The interaction of water
with electric fields has been intensely explored over the last years.
We report another unusual effect of liquid water exposed to a dc
electric field: the floating water bridge."
When exposed to a high-voltage electric field, water in two beakers
climbs out of the beakers and crosses empty space to meet, forming
the
water bridge. The liquid bridge, hovering in space, appears to the
human eye to defy gravity.
SNIP
I know the inspiration for this claim. The behavior of liquid helium
near absolute zero allows the liquid to climb out of the container by
crawling up its side.

The article doesn't say anything about anything except WATER.
Can't you read?

To claim that water behaves so will be just that -
a claim - until such time as some reputable scientist reproduces such a
phenomenon. Until then you can't even claim having been an observor. You
always seem to find the most bizarre purported facts and in some way
attempt to achieve a level of credibility. So far you score is zero out
of hundreds of attempts. Especially laughable was those reports about
the concentration camps in waiting. They were quickly examined by others
and found not to exist in any location proximate to the places you
claimed. You are on funny guy, JW.
FK

So are you "fossil" scientist.
Wake up. The world is changing while you get your diapers changed.
Meyer's process is being duplicated all over the planet.

http://www.h2earth.org/main.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md8-wvV2jHM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9XrLOudwRw&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiA4z_Kpgg4&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJPE6d2R9uo&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fFp3CJZMTw&mode=related&search=


By what standard of accreditation are you qualified to dismiss us a
properly educated critics of the unreproducible results you lovingly
support?
FK
Fred Kasner
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:50 pm
Guest
knews4u2chew@yahoo.com wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 6, 11:21 pm, Dan Bloomquist <publi...@lakeweb.com> wrote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:

http://www.h2earth.org/main.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md8-wvV2jHM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9XrLOudwRw&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiA4z_Kpgg4&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJPE6d2R9uo&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fFp3CJZMTw&mode=related&search=
Repetition does not make a truth. Why act like all the rest of the idiots?

It isn't repitition.
It's examples of different experimenters and aspects of the process.
Anyone can contact the issuers of the videos and ask how they obtained
their results.
Many of the experimenters are working together and are using forum
websites to post their results and help other experimenters.


And, you of course, are a reliable standard for evaluation of the claims
made by the idiots who you support?
FK
 
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