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Mike Bass
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:52 am
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First, I would like to thank everyone for their time on reading this and for
any replies I might receive.

I'm a writer and I'm currently working on a Sci-Fi screenplay. I need
something that is a half-way believable new energy source. I have come up
with something and would greatly appreciate any opinions you might have.

The new energy is called "time-energy". The concept is that gravity is not a
fundamental force but a by-product of the flow of time with time moving in
only a forward direction.

Because time flows in one direction, the movement could be used for energy.
Imagine time as wind. The energy of the movement of wind is captured by
windmills and turned into useful power. The catalyst for exploiting the
movement of time would be harmonics. Isolate some space, put a vacuum on it
and lower it to absolute zero. Concentrate a harmonic beam on the enclosed
vacuumed space and it starts particles jumping in and out of existence and
causes vibrations. The more concentrated the beam the more the vibration
escalates. Then you collect the energy from the heat the vibrations create.
Mike Bass
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:40 am
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"Knud Soerensen" <4tuu4k002@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:46d943fe$0$21929$157c6196@dreader1.cybercity.dk...

Quote:
It is possible to extend Maxwell's equations for electromagnetism
such that the fields have 4 components instead of the normal 3.
While the 3 ordinary components is connected to space x,y,z
the new component is connected to time t and it
indicate how much energy flows in or out of the electromagnetic system
over time.
See http://www.scribd.com/doc/4445/quaternionic-electrodynamics
If one build a electromagnetic system which unsymmetrical in the
fourth component it might be possible to extract energy form the vacuum.

So, there you have you time-energy energy system.

That should properly be a log-harmonic beam see
http://217.160.88.14/ir_en_research_global_scaling/detail.php?nr=1110


Thank you so much Knud. You just made my day!
Knud Soerensen
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:51 am
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Hi Mike.

Mike Bass wrote:
Quote:
First, I would like to thank everyone for their time on reading this and for
any replies I might receive.

I'm a writer and I'm currently working on a Sci-Fi screenplay. I need
something that is a half-way believable new energy source. I have come up
with something and would greatly appreciate any opinions you might have.

The new energy is called "time-energy". The concept is that gravity is not a
fundamental force but a by-product of the flow of time with time moving in
only a forward direction.
It is possible to extend Maxwell's equations for electromagnetism

such that the fields have 4 components instead of the normal 3.
While the 3 ordinary components is connected to space x,y,z
the new component is connected to time t and it
indicate how much energy flows in or out of the electromagnetic system
over time.
See http://www.scribd.com/doc/4445/quaternionic-electrodynamics
If one build a electromagnetic system which unsymmetrical in the
fourth component it might be possible to extract energy form the vacuum.

So, there you have you time-energy energy system.

Quote:

Because time flows in one direction, the movement could be used for energy.
Imagine time as wind. The energy of the movement of wind is captured by
windmills and turned into useful power. The catalyst for exploiting the
movement of time would be harmonics. Isolate some space, put a vacuum on it
and lower it to absolute zero. Concentrate a harmonic beam on the enclosed
vacuumed space and it starts particles jumping in and out of existence and
causes vibrations. The more concentrated the beam the more the vibration
escalates. Then you collect the energy from the heat the vibrations create.


That should properly be a log-harmonic beam see
http://217.160.88.14/ir_en_research_global_scaling/detail.php?nr=1110
Don Kelly
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:41 pm
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"Mike Bass" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Quote:

"Knud Soerensen" <4tuu4k002@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:46d943fe$0$21929$157c6196@dreader1.cybercity.dk...

It is possible to extend Maxwell's equations for electromagnetism
such that the fields have 4 components instead of the normal 3.
While the 3 ordinary components is connected to space x,y,z
the new component is connected to time t and it
indicate how much energy flows in or out of the electromagnetic system
over time.
See http://www.scribd.com/doc/4445/quaternionic-electrodynamics
If one build a electromagnetic system which unsymmetrical in the
fourth component it might be possible to extract energy form the vacuum.

So, there you have you time-energy energy system.

That should properly be a log-harmonic beam see
http://217.160.88.14/ir_en_research_global_scaling/detail.php?nr=1110


Thank you so much Knud. You just made my day!


The problem appears to be that you are trying to extend the math to extend
reality. Why stop at 4 dimensions? Why not 10, 100, 1000 or more
dimensions?- mathematically possible (and very often useful and practical
e.g. 5 equations in 5 unknowns involves 5 "dimensions") but physical meaning
in this case is pretty far fetched?
The fact that we have no basis in observed reality to support this is
apparently a minor problem. Note that the math used must fit the observed
reality, not the converse.
Actually there appears to be nothing in Knud's quoted article which
supports energy extraction from vacuum. Hamilton's relationships are of use
in handling many electrodynamic problems. (qv White and Woodson
"Electromagnetic Energy Conversion" but as always the constraints are the
actual physical relationships.

For SF, the postulate doesn't have to be true (this hasn't stopped the best
SF authors)-but given the postulate one can then build a story that is
consistent and is interesting - on the basis of "what if this was possible-
then what follows?"

Hey- we have good stories which involve "worm holes" and FTL transport but
these are devices which allow the presentation of different scenarios,
characters, conflicts and resolutions.


Don Kelly dhky@shawcross.ca
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Chris
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:38 am
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Try Knuth. (Thats me before my accident).

You can have as many othogonal axis as you like and skewed ones too. You
just need to invent it then find if anything fits.

square^2(x)=0.

Try finding vector field theory in n dimensions where n>4.

curl, div, grad, square, pent, hex, ... etc.

You may find a space that left hand turns easily into right handed 3-worms
living in the 3-space projection.

So if you have two right gloves just nip up to a higher dimentional universe
and come back with a pair.

And in a 5 - space a 3 - space worm can be turned inside out for a spot of
say appendoctomy.

Look up projective Geometry for a real read. It will turn you inside out.
You will find out for example that your curvacious wife is really the same
as you. I'm just a tube really, look up embrogenesis and morphogens.

Hi Morph! Up the grey crecent!


"Don Kelly" <dhky@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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Quote:

"Mike Bass" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:7rGdnfHzd5VU0kTbnZ2dnUVZ_uWlnZ2d@comcast.com...

"Knud Soerensen" <4tuu4k002@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:46d943fe$0$21929$157c6196@dreader1.cybercity.dk...

It is possible to extend Maxwell's equations for electromagnetism
such that the fields have 4 components instead of the normal 3.
While the 3 ordinary components is connected to space x,y,z
the new component is connected to time t and it
indicate how much energy flows in or out of the electromagnetic system
over time.
See http://www.scribd.com/doc/4445/quaternionic-electrodynamics
If one build a electromagnetic system which unsymmetrical in the
fourth component it might be possible to extract energy form the vacuum.

So, there you have you time-energy energy system.

That should properly be a log-harmonic beam see
http://217.160.88.14/ir_en_research_global_scaling/detail.php?nr=1110


Thank you so much Knud. You just made my day!


The problem appears to be that you are trying to extend the math to extend
reality. Why stop at 4 dimensions? Why not 10, 100, 1000 or more
dimensions?- mathematically possible (and very often useful and practical
e.g. 5 equations in 5 unknowns involves 5 "dimensions") but physical
meaning in this case is pretty far fetched?
The fact that we have no basis in observed reality to support this is
apparently a minor problem. Note that the math used must fit the observed
reality, not the converse.
Actually there appears to be nothing in Knud's quoted article which
supports energy extraction from vacuum. Hamilton's relationships are of
use in handling many electrodynamic problems. (qv White and Woodson
"Electromagnetic Energy Conversion" but as always the constraints are the
actual physical relationships.

For SF, the postulate doesn't have to be true (this hasn't stopped the
best SF authors)-but given the postulate one can then build a story that
is consistent and is interesting - on the basis of "what if this was
possible- then what follows?"

Hey- we have good stories which involve "worm holes" and FTL transport but
these are devices which allow the presentation of different scenarios,
characters, conflicts and resolutions.


Don Kelly dhky@shawcross.ca
remove the X to answer
----------------------------


No to gauss and electromagesism - up fyneman and lorenz.


chris
 
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