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Mary
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 10:54 pm
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"John & Ninetta" <jsuljak@sentex.net> wrote in message
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"Mary" <non@invalid.ddd> wrote in message news:f3lap1$jj5$1@aioe.org...
"John & Ninetta" <jsuljak@sentex.net> wrote in message
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Could that molar be a
bit "fragile" and have become irritated by the length of time I had
to
bite
down hard on the liquidy stuff for the crown impression?


No.

I was thinking about that molar. It was a little sensitive for months
before
the impression and with hard biting down for several minutes, it might
have
made it more sensitive. Why would it be sore for several hours after the
impressions when I
only had intermittent twinges of pain before? The molar had laser gum
surgery done a year ago and sometimes I get mild twinges, but not enough
to
do anything about it.



We're heading into an area I can't really discuss without seeing you.
Your
situation is likely because the bite on the new crown is off, but can't
say
for sure.

I went to the dentist today and got him to fix the new crown and its more
comfortable now. When he asked me to tap and grind down on the crown and
also asked me to grind down on the gauze thing? (what material is it
anyway), there was a crunching/squeaking noise and the dentist said "that
even gives me the shivers, that has to be fixed". When I was there on
Tuesday, I got a needle which didn't unfreeze for 4 hours, so it was pretty
solid, and could only partially feel the crowned tooth, so when he was
trying to fit the crown on and adjust it, he kept asking me how it felt, but
I was not able to tell him because of the freezing. Normally, I wouldn't
have needed a needle, except for the constant pain for the previous 4 days
that by the time I got to him, I was very depressed and upset and he
understood that. Anyway, it seems to be much better now. He ground down the
crown or whatever you call it when they do that. Shaved it down?

I asked him today about the molar above the crowned tooth as to why it was
sensitive after the impressions and asked him if it was because of having
gum laser surgery a year ago, and he said the molar had some issues and he
wasn't surprised the impressions made it give me twinges after.

I forgot to ask him two things if you wouldn't mind me asking you.

-my jaw on the bone at the bottom left side where the crown was done,
(towards the chin bone) is still quite sore even though its been 10 days.
Not terribly sore, but it aches some still. Of course, there was a lot of
drilling done that day, is it normal to take a while for the ache to go
away.

-and when I eat, should a bottom crowned tooth feel the same as before I had
this tooth problem in the first place when it was a normal tooth? I feel I
favour the other side of my mouth for eating as I am not afraid to bite down
and its completely comfortable. With the other side, where the crown is on
the bottom (5 teeth along fron the bottom front tooth), the tooth feels a
little strange and I am afraid I will stress it if I bite too hard on it.
its porcelain and metal by the way, and he put cement on it, in case he has
to take it off for some reason, so he said.

Quote:
I was on a
helicopter with him once going to Victoria from Vancouver, before he
was
premier...seemed like a nice guy and he seemed sober, possibly because
he
was not flying the helicopter. Has everyone in BC forgotten about
this?

You mean have they forgotten that he was on a helicopter in BC? They
probably didn't even know. Why was he on a helicopter or you ?


A communter flight from downtown Vancouver. I had never met him before.

I think a ride in a helicopter would be fun.
Thank you for your help. There are quite a few dentists here. Very unique on
a newsgroup to see so many professionals, but good of you all to donate your
time giving people free advice.You are all to be congratulated for your kind
help which I am sure is most appreciated by everyone, me included..

Mary
John & Ninetta
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:01 am
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Quote:
I forgot to ask him two things if you wouldn't mind me asking you.

-my jaw on the bone at the bottom left side where the crown was done,
(towards the chin bone) is still quite sore even though its been 10 days.
Not terribly sore, but it aches some still. Of course, there was a lot of
drilling done that day, is it normal to take a while for the ache to go
away.

-and when I eat, should a bottom crowned tooth feel the same as before I
had
this tooth problem in the first place when it was a normal tooth? I feel I
favour the other side of my mouth for eating as I am not afraid to bite
down
and its completely comfortable. With the other side, where the crown is on
the bottom (5 teeth along fron the bottom front tooth), the tooth feels a
little strange and I am afraid I will stress it if I bite too hard on it.
its porcelain and metal by the way, and he put cement on it, in case he
has
to take it off for some reason, so he said.



Can't really answer these without seeing you or knowing the circumstances
around your crown preparation and insertion visits. sorry.

John
Amatus Cremona
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:58 am
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Time to visit then. Come on over.

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Amatus

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"John & Ninetta" <jsuljak@sentex.net> wrote in message
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Quote:

Toronto is not the Detroit of Canada. Detroit is a DEAD city of steadily
decreasing population with no vitality to the downtown area. Toronto is
the opposite. Hey,,,,, ever check out the air quality in Sarnia? Uggh!
How about the paper mills on the Northern side of St. Saint Marie? I
think you guys are about even with us for pollution. It is just at
different parts of the border. The water-way that forms the border tends
to attract industries that pollute on both sides.


I agree about the pollution thing. I've never been to Detroit...only
drove through it to get the I95 when I was 17 and driving to Florida with
some buddies. That was 20 years ago!

John



We are trying to figure out a date to visit RB in Toronto this summer.
Amazing how the schedule for the entire summer can fill up before it even
begins.

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Amatus

I doubt it. McGuinty has lost a lot of voters since he's been in. I
heard on
my car radio this afternoon that Arnold said that Toronto is the Detroit
(Motor city) of Canada. When I hear the weather on local TV stations,
when
its hot weather and if its smoggy that day, the weather guy often says,
the
hot air from Gulf of Mexico is creating the heat we have today, and
brings
with it winds that pick up pollution from the US into Ontario and mixed
in
with some of our own I guess. But we just send them cold air down to
them
because until we get the hot air from them, we don't have any Smile
The main attraction I saw for Schwartzenegger on the TV is the kids
here
have been following him due to him being "The Terminator". I was very
surprised when he became governor of CA. He seems to be doing better
than I
thought. He is going to Vancouver after Toronto I heard. They don't have
that much smog.




Amatus Cremona
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:01 am
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RB is Roy Brown. The best Denturist in the world. IMHO.

[Michigan.]

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Amatus

[Michigan.]


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"Mary" <non@invalid.ddd> wrote in message news:f3o0b7$97c$1@aioe.org...
Quote:
"Amatus Cremona" <Nicola@sottovocce.com> wrote in message
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Toronto is not the Detroit of Canada. Detroit is a DEAD city of steadily
decreasing population with no vitality to the downtown area. Toronto is
the
opposite. Hey,,,,, ever check out the air quality in Sarnia? Uggh!
How
about the paper mills on the Northern side of St. Saint Marie?

They are right on the border though. Toronto is fairly close to the
border,
but not like Detroit or Windsor or the cities mentioned above. But we have
a
much larger population. Still, Ontario has tried to do a lot to curb
pollution and much of it comes from the US and mixes with our own when the
Gulf of mexico sends hot air up which is all the time. Southern Ontario
has
a very hot climate in June, July and August with very high humity. It was
very hot today.

I think you
guys are about even with us for pollution. It is just at different parts
of
the border. The water-way that forms the border tends to attract
industries
that pollute on both sides.

That is true.
But we get a lot of pollution in Toronto some days in the summer. Other
days, its perfectly clear. A lot of it is due to high humidity and heat
making the air not move around much and we get a lot of hor winds from the
Gulf of Mexico. You get our cold air from northern Canada in winter and we
get your hot air from Gulf of Mexico, but the hot air creates more smog,
not
cold air.

We are trying to figure out a date to visit RB in Toronto this summer.
Amazing how the schedule for the entire summer can fill up before it even
begins.

I have to admit my ignorance or my age by asking who or what is RB? Is it
Raptors Basketball? Are you in the US?

Mary

Steven Fawks
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:34 am
Guest
Amatus Cremona wrote:

Quote:
RB is Roy Brown. The best Denturist in the world. IMHO.

[Michigan.]


Which also proves he has a very strong constitution. It would
be tough to deal with denture patients all day, every day.

Steve
Amatus Cremona
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:50 am
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Watching him work is a learning experience every time.

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Amatus

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Quote:
Amatus Cremona wrote:

RB is Roy Brown. The best Denturist in the world. IMHO.

[Michigan.]


Which also proves he has a very strong constitution. It would
be tough to deal with denture patients all day, every day.

Steve
Mary
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:14 pm
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"Amatus Cremona" <Nicola@sottovocce.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
RB is Roy Brown. The best Denturist in the world. IMHO.

Since your comments were to me in most of your message, then you mentioned
RB, so I thought you were telling me about RB. But I guess you were telling
your fellow dentists.

Mary


Quote:
[Michigan.]

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Amatus

[Michigan.]


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"Mary" <non@invalid.ddd> wrote in message news:f3o0b7$97c$1@aioe.org...
"Amatus Cremona" <Nicola@sottovocce.com> wrote in message
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Toronto is not the Detroit of Canada. Detroit is a DEAD city of
steadily
decreasing population with no vitality to the downtown area. Toronto
is
the
opposite. Hey,,,,, ever check out the air quality in Sarnia? Uggh!
How
about the paper mills on the Northern side of St. Saint Marie?

They are right on the border though. Toronto is fairly close to the
border,
but not like Detroit or Windsor or the cities mentioned above. But we
have
a
much larger population. Still, Ontario has tried to do a lot to curb
pollution and much of it comes from the US and mixes with our own when
the
Gulf of mexico sends hot air up which is all the time. Southern Ontario
has
a very hot climate in June, July and August with very high humity. It
was
very hot today.

I think you
guys are about even with us for pollution. It is just at different
parts
of
the border. The water-way that forms the border tends to attract
industries
that pollute on both sides.

That is true.
But we get a lot of pollution in Toronto some days in the summer. Other
days, its perfectly clear. A lot of it is due to high humidity and heat
making the air not move around much and we get a lot of hor winds from
the
Gulf of Mexico. You get our cold air from northern Canada in winter and
we
get your hot air from Gulf of Mexico, but the hot air creates more smog,
not
cold air.

We are trying to figure out a date to visit RB in Toronto this summer.
Amazing how the schedule for the entire summer can fill up before it
even
begins.

I have to admit my ignorance or my age by asking who or what is RB? Is
it
Raptors Basketball? Are you in the US?

Mary



Mary
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:28 pm
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"John & Ninetta" <jsuljak@sentex.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
I forgot to ask him two things if you wouldn't mind me asking you.

-my jaw on the bone at the bottom left side where the crown was done,
(towards the chin bone) is still quite sore even though its been 10
days.
Not terribly sore, but it aches some still. Of course, there was a lot
of
drilling done that day, is it normal to take a while for the ache to go
away.

-and when I eat, should a bottom crowned tooth feel the same as before I
had
this tooth problem in the first place when it was a normal tooth? I feel
I
favour the other side of my mouth for eating as I am not afraid to bite
down
and its completely comfortable. With the other side, where the crown is
on
the bottom (5 teeth along fron the bottom front tooth), the tooth feels
a
little strange and I am afraid I will stress it if I bite too hard on
it.
its porcelain and metal by the way, and he put cement on it, in case he
has
to take it off for some reason, so he said.



Can't really answer these without seeing you or knowing the circumstances
around your crown preparation and insertion visits. sorry.

I thought *in general* because of the pressure when the dentist does the
drilling in preparation for the crown, that there can be a slight ache in
the jaw for several days after, in some some of your patients, and if your
patients felt that eating after a crown was done, was much the same
experience as before they had the crown done.

Mary
John & Ninetta
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:35 pm
Guest
Quote:
I thought *in general* because of the pressure when the dentist does the
drilling in preparation for the crown, that there can be a slight ache in
the jaw for several days after, in some some of your patients, and if your
patients felt that eating after a crown was done, was much the same
experience as before they had the crown done.

Generally speaking, things settle within a few weeks. I haven't had this
report by a patient of minding the side of the new crown. That's not to say
that someone on Monday morning won't tell me this. Give it a few weeks of
trying the new crown out. If it still feels strange, go back and see your
dentist. If you feel things are getting worse, go back sooner.

John
Mary
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:22 pm
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"John & Ninetta" <jsuljak@sentex.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
I thought *in general* because of the pressure when the dentist does the
drilling in preparation for the crown, that there can be a slight ache
in
the jaw for several days after, in some some of your patients, and if
your
patients felt that eating after a crown was done, was much the same
experience as before they had the crown done.

Generally speaking, things settle within a few weeks. I haven't had this
report by a patient of minding the side of the new crown. That's not to
say
that someone on Monday morning won't tell me this. Give it a few weeks of
trying the new crown out. If it still feels strange, go back and see your
dentist. If you feel things are getting worse, go back sooner.

When reading the part above starting at end of your first line where you say
"I haven't had this report by a patient of minding the side of the new
crown", I am not sure what you mean when you say "by a patient of minding
the side of the new crown". Did you mean to say "by a patient of mine at the
site of the new crown? or did I read that wrong? Thanks.

Mary
John & Ninetta
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:54 am
Guest
Quote:
if
your
patients felt that eating after a crown was done, was much the same
experience as before they had the crown done.


I meant to say that your above statement is generally true, after a few days
following the crown insertion.

John
Mary
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:40 pm
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"John & Ninetta" <jsuljak@sentex.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
if
your
patients felt that eating after a crown was done, was much the same
experience as before they had the crown done.


I meant to say that your above statement is generally true, after a few
days
following the crown insertion.

John

Hi John,
So far, things seem to be ok and much improved since the dentist adjusted
the crown last Thursday. The best thing of all, was getting rid of the
severe tooth pain last Tuesday, and which I had had all last weekend. Thank
you for your help. It is much appreciated.

Mary
 
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