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Newbie
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:34 am
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:08:32 GMT, "Amatus Cremona" <Nicola@sottovocce.com> wrote:

Quote:
It is only the high tech software that causes these problems. Basically,
all the card manufacturers have not written drivers which are compatible
with every other card manufacturer's drivers. The PMS engineers write a
product that will work with 3-4 different card combinations. But, they
typically do not have the budget to test for every possible combination of
drivers. Especially since the drivers change every few months. I have
found a few different sound card drivers which simply will NOT work with
specific video cards. That is before you add the PMS. Now try to use voice
recognition at the same time as you are capturing video images, while
displaying previous images on another screen, plus a patient facial photo,
the daily schedule, and your progress notes all on minimized windows at the
same time. You are asking a lot of code instructions to interact with each
other.

Look I hear what you are saying but most video and sound is on the
mother-board now. If your machine is crashing because of the number
of progs you are using simultaneously perhaps it time for a RAM
upgrade or even a entire machine upgrade.

Saw a video card in the store recently that had 512MB of RAM on it.
My 486/66 had a smoking 1MB of video RAM !
Of course these cards are for high end gamers, but your PMS software
should interface with these cards seamlessly.
Sounds to me your PMS vendor is blaming their shortcomings on
the hardware vendors. And that says to me that the PMS developers
just ain't that good !

Quote:

For all your basic consumer level peripherals, it does not matter. Once you
try to stand on the top floor of the building, what is underneath you
matters a lot more than when you are on the ground floor.

Have you seen some of the output on youtube ?
Hardly what I would call low level stuff.
The average off the shelf computer is much more powerful,
than just 2-3 yrs ago.

Quote:

Your PMS software is not going to offer support for Vista OS, until they
have had Vista in their own laboratory long enough to thoroughly test it.

Software writers get the developer releases long before the OS is released
to the general public.

Quote:
It may work fine, but they need to know what to tell you when you call in
for support over some issue which does not seem to work right.
Amatus Cremona
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:50 am
Guest
I think this will be less of an issue in the future, but for now, it does
exist.

We don't have to agree, but we can enjoy the debate.

--
/

Amatus

/
"Newbie" <nox@bix.nex> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:08:32 GMT, "Amatus Cremona" <Nicola@sottovocce.com
wrote:

It is only the high tech software that causes these problems. Basically,
all the card manufacturers have not written drivers which are compatible
with every other card manufacturer's drivers. The PMS engineers write a
product that will work with 3-4 different card combinations. But, they
typically do not have the budget to test for every possible combination of
drivers. Especially since the drivers change every few months. I have
found a few different sound card drivers which simply will NOT work with
specific video cards. That is before you add the PMS. Now try to use
voice
recognition at the same time as you are capturing video images, while
displaying previous images on another screen, plus a patient facial photo,
the daily schedule, and your progress notes all on minimized windows at
the
same time. You are asking a lot of code instructions to interact with
each
other.

Look I hear what you are saying but most video and sound is on the
mother-board now. If your machine is crashing because of the number
of progs you are using simultaneously perhaps it time for a RAM
upgrade or even a entire machine upgrade.

Saw a video card in the store recently that had 512MB of RAM on it.
My 486/66 had a smoking 1MB of video RAM !
Of course these cards are for high end gamers, but your PMS software
should interface with these cards seamlessly.
Sounds to me your PMS vendor is blaming their shortcomings on
the hardware vendors. And that says to me that the PMS developers
just ain't that good !


For all your basic consumer level peripherals, it does not matter. Once
you
try to stand on the top floor of the building, what is underneath you
matters a lot more than when you are on the ground floor.

Have you seen some of the output on youtube ?
Hardly what I would call low level stuff.
The average off the shelf computer is much more powerful,
than just 2-3 yrs ago.


Your PMS software is not going to offer support for Vista OS, until they
have had Vista in their own laboratory long enough to thoroughly test it.

Software writers get the developer releases long before the OS is released
to the general public.

It may work fine, but they need to know what to tell you when you call in
for support over some issue which does not seem to work right.
Newbie
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:20 am
Guest
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:50:31 GMT, "Amatus Cremona" <Nicola@sottovocce.com> wrote:

Quote:
I think this will be less of an issue in the future, but for now, it does
exist.

We don't have to agree, but we can enjoy the debate.


Absolutely.

But I still disagree <g>
John & Ninetta
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:06 pm
Guest
"Amatus Cremona" <Nicola@sottovocce.com> wrote in message
news:SAOMh.11247$P47.1778@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
Quote:
A big problem with bridging to a different company's imaging software is
support. If you install a replacement video card and the system begins to
misbehave, the PMS will sometimes blame it on the imaging software and the
imaging guys say it is the fault of the PMS. The guy who does the bridging
may blame both. It can sometimes be difficult to trace down weird
problems. When it works good, this is not an issue.


I never thought about that. Thanks.


Quote:

Of course, (I know you already do this), you have to make sure your
back-up software looks at all the various directories where you have data
stored since it is NOT all in one place.



Of course.


Quote:
You will want to always contact your imaging software company, your PMS
company and the bridging software company (assuming it is third party),
before changing any internal components in your PC. You want to be
certain the particular card you want to install has been tested by
everyone. If not, you will not get any support from them. They will
insist you replace the card with the recommended one and then call back.
Not all card drivers will work with all component combinations and
software combinations.



Thanks for the tip.


Quote:
Trust me that this is 1000% easier if everything is handled by one
software company.



Now....back to my original question.....ever used the Schick software or
know of those who have and their experiences.

John
Amatus Cremona
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:51 am
Guest
I chose NOT to pay extra for the Schick software.



"John & Ninetta" <jsuljak@sentex.net> wrote in message
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Quote:

"Amatus Cremona" <Nicola@sottovocce.com> wrote in message
news:SAOMh.11247$P47.1778@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
A big problem with bridging to a different company's imaging software is
support. If you install a replacement video card and the system begins to
misbehave, the PMS will sometimes blame it on the imaging software and the
imaging guys say it is the fault of the PMS. The guy who does the
bridging may blame both. It can sometimes be difficult to trace down
weird problems. When it works good, this is not an issue.


I never thought about that. Thanks.



Of course, (I know you already do this), you have to make sure your
back-up software looks at all the various directories where you have data
stored since it is NOT all in one place.



Of course.


You will want to always contact your imaging software company, your PMS
company and the bridging software company (assuming it is third party),
before changing any internal components in your PC. You want to be
certain the particular card you want to install has been tested by
everyone. If not, you will not get any support from them. They will
insist you replace the card with the recommended one and then call back.
Not all card drivers will work with all component combinations and
software combinations.



Thanks for the tip.


Trust me that this is 1000% easier if everything is handled by one
software company.



Now....back to my original question.....ever used the Schick software or
know of those who have and their experiences.

John
 
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