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Anthony Ayiomamitis
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:30 pm
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Paul Clark wrote:
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Hi

Try Maurice Gavin's page for starters. Loads of good material and some
images.

http://www.astroman.fsnet.co.uk/quasars.htm

He gives the transformation near the bottom of the home page. Thank you!

Anthony.

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(I was looking for this to add to my first post but couldn't find it)

Good luck
Regards
Paul
"Anthony Ayiomamitis" <anthony@perseus.no2spam.gr> wrote in message
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Dear Friends,

A huge thanks for the various recommendations surrounding other
interesting quasars and which I will mark down for immediate imaging.

Nevertheless, I am delighted to see the thread that has been generated and
the really cool tips (targets) that have ensued. I am quite eager to
pursue PC 1247+3406 in Canes Venatici which I think (?) is the further
quasar found so far (over 12 billion light-yrs away and at magnitude
20.4).

Can someone enlighten me how to convert the redshift to percent of the
speed of light? Also, Ioanni, I do have the regular image (white on
black).

Anthony.

Paul Clark wrote:

Hi,

A lovely image...
..but for example
http://www.guildfordas.org/observing/quasar_episode.html
~7 billion light years (I am not a member of the Guildford AS).

There are apparently quite a few others as well as AGNs that are
observed, imaged and monitored by amateurs.

Regards
Paul

"Anthony Ayiomamitis" <anthony@perseus.no2spam.gr> wrote in message
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Dear Friends,

The quasar 3C273 in Virgo is the brightest visible quasar from Earth and
with a magnitude of 12.8 is also visible with average amateur equipment.
Lying at a distance of two BILLION light-years away, it is the furthest
any amateur equipment can reach (and especially right from one's
backyard).

Further details including an image are available at
http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-DSO-QSO-3C273.htm .

Anthony.


Ben
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:52 pm
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On Mar 18, 2:34 pm, Anthony Ayiomamitis <anth...@perseus.no2spam.gr>
wrote:
Quote:
Dear Friends,

A huge thanks for the various recommendations surrounding other
interesting quasars and which I will mark down for immediate imaging.

Nevertheless, I am delighted to see the thread that has been generated
and the really cool tips (targets) that have ensued. I am quite eager to
pursue PC 1247+3406 in Canes Venatici which I think (?) is the further
quasar found so far (over 12 billion light-yrs away and at magnitude 20.4).

Can someone enlighten me how to convert the redshift to percent of the
speed of light? Also, Ioanni, I do have the regular image (white on black).

Anthony.

Anthony,

In SR the redshift formula is:

1 + z = SQRT[(c + v)/(c - v)]

Solving for v (recession velocity) yields:

v = [(1 + z)^2 -1/(1 + z)^2 +1]

An easier keypunch is:

v = (1 + z)^2 c - c/ (1 + z)^2 +1

Regards

Ben
Anthony Ayiomamitis
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:57 pm
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Ben wrote:

Quote:
On Mar 18, 2:34 pm, Anthony Ayiomamitis <anth...@perseus.no2spam.gr
wrote:

Dear Friends,

A huge thanks for the various recommendations surrounding other
interesting quasars and which I will mark down for immediate imaging.

Nevertheless, I am delighted to see the thread that has been generated
and the really cool tips (targets) that have ensued. I am quite eager to
pursue PC 1247+3406 in Canes Venatici which I think (?) is the further
quasar found so far (over 12 billion light-yrs away and at magnitude 20.4).

Can someone enlighten me how to convert the redshift to percent of the
speed of light? Also, Ioanni, I do have the regular image (white on black).

Anthony.


Anthony,

In SR the redshift formula is:

1 + z = SQRT[(c + v)/(c - v)]

Solving for v (recession velocity) yields:

v = [(1 + z)^2 -1/(1 + z)^2 +1]

An easier keypunch is:

v = (1 + z)^2 c - c/ (1 + z)^2 +1

Thanks Ben! I have a little Excel spreadsheet with the 15 brightest
quasars (for me to image) and I have added the above formula so that I
can convert at will when preparing the associated webpage for each new
quasar image.

Anthony.

Quote:

Regards

Ben
canopus56
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:43 pm
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On Mar 18, 8:37 am, Anthony Ayiomamitis <anth...@perseus.no2spam.gr>
wrote:
Quote:
Dear Friends,
The quasar 3C273 in Virgo is the brightest visible quasar from Earth and
with a magnitude of 12.8 is also visible with average amateur equipment.
Lying at a distance of two BILLION light-years away, it is the furthest
any amateur equipment can reach (and especially right from one's backyard).
snip


See also:

McGaha, J. March 2006. The Outer Limits: Observing Quasers at High
Redshifts. S&T. 111(3):69-72

for a list of quasers visible to amateurs. Here's my short list of
the five brightest:

V_mag Cat_IdSimbad_Link Con J2000_Position
14.86 QSO J0407-1211 Eri J040748.43-121136.7
12.86 3C273 Vir J122904.80+020307.2
15 QSO J1436+6336 Dra J143645.80+633637.9
14.66 QSO J1634+7031 UMi J163428.99+703132.3
15.85 QSO B1946+768 Dra J194400.00+765400.0

"Distance then" for these objects are:

Dist. 5.5B l/yr (z=0.57) per McGaha2006.
Clark note: brightest quasar; dist. 1.96B l/y (z=0.158) per
McGaha2006.
Dist. 10.4 l/yr (z=2.07) per McGaha2006.
Dist. 8.9B l/yr (z=1.33) per McGaha2006.
Dist. 11.5 l/yr (z=3.00) per McGaha2006.

- Canopus56
Vandemakum
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:03 am
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Anthony Ayiomamitis wrote:

Quote:
Dear Friends,

The quasar 3C273 in Virgo is the brightest visible quasar from Earth and
with a magnitude of 12.8 is also visible with average amateur equipment.
Lying at a distance of two BILLION light-years away, it is the furthest
any amateur equipment can reach (and especially right from one's backyard).

Further details including an image are available at
http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-DSO-QSO-3C273.htm .

Anthony.

Sounds like a drug ad commercial. Eversite and Moxycondrhindrum will keep you
spry and at the teescope to
view that quazar. My God I need a break from civilsation!
Michael McCulloch
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:46 am
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Per Erik Jorde
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:59 am
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"Martin Brown" <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> writes:

Quote:
It is a great shot. Unfortunately your diffraction spikes line up with
where the jet might hope to be seen (roughly diametrically oppposite
the fainter of the two close in stars. I suspect it may be beyond
impossible for amateur kit to capture by it might be interesting to
try for...

Interesting comment, as I am currently trying to image the jet myself
(no success "yet"). The jet is very faint, approx. mag 21 according to
this site, which shows it faintly visible in a 3x5 min exposure taken
with 16" telescope by famous "amateur" Jack Newton:


http://www.starlightccd.com/doug/astronomy/people/jnewton/1997/3c273.htm

pej
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Per Erik Jorde
 
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