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| Jan Flora |
 Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:49 pm |
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Hi Folks:
The price of corn in America is going up, due to the ethanol
thingy'bob for fuel for autos.
Do any of you know of other grains that we can feed, instead
of corn-based scratch? We can grow barley here at my house in
southcentral Alaska. We even have a combine on the ranch,
although it hasn't been used for probably 20 years...
Are corn prices jumping in other countries?
What grains do other countries feed for scratch?
Jan
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| Jill |
| Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:30 am |
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Jan Flora wrote:
Quote: Hi Folks:
The price of corn in America is going up, due to the ethanol
thingy'bob for fuel for autos.
Do any of you know of other grains that we can feed, instead
of corn-based scratch? We can grow barley here at my house in
southcentral Alaska. We even have a combine on the ranch,
although it hasn't been used for probably 20 years...
Barley is not a good feed for chickens unless you can provide the enzymes
they need to digest it
Maize / corn is far too high in fats and carbs for most of us but you have a
rather different climate!!!
For most places maize/corn fed to productive birds causes fatty liver
syndromes and high fat deposits which can interfere with egg movements
Over here wheat is the best scratch grain but still used in very small
amounts
Can you grow any of the higher quality things like millet, quinoa/cranola,
etc
See the game cover thread earlier
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Are corn prices jumping in other countries?
I believe they will be
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:52 am |
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"Jan Flora" <snowshoe@xyz.net> wrote in message
news:snowshoe-A9C9CD.17491823022007@prawn.nwc.acsalaska.net...
Quote: Hi Folks:
The price of corn in America is going up, due to the ethanol
thingy'bob for fuel for autos.
what?
Quote: Do any of you know of other grains that we can feed, instead
of corn-based scratch?
hm, that's interesting. scratch mix here (australia) only has a bit of corn
in it - i really wouldn't expect to feed much corn! afaik, they put a bit of
corn in for the yellowness of the yolks, but i don't even know if that works
or not (i give mine grass for that, which they like heaps more than they
like corn anyway). i give mine some cornflakes from time to time because
they love it, but not very often.
anyway, where was i? the bulk of the scratch mix is wheat, with millet,
sunflower seeds and something else i can't identify, with laying pellets
mixed in too. i give mine scratch mix once a day at the most. they enjoy it,
but i don't feel it's balanced in & of itself.
We can grow barley here at my house in
Quote: southcentral Alaska. We even have a combine on the ranch,
although it hasn't been used for probably 20 years...
Are corn prices jumping in other countries?
i have no idea!
Quote: What grains do other countries feed for scratch?
as above. wheat is the whole-grain of choice here afaik (certainly in my
area, it seems) & in my limited experience, but i don't believe it's used
for the bulk of laying pellet recipes - other grains are. the breeder from
whom i got my last batch of chickies - who are so lovely (the chooks, not
the breeder  i shall buy from him again - suggests wheat as their whole
grain if you're giving a whole grain. they love sprouted wheat too, & i know
many people feed that as well.
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| Ginny |
| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 7:53 pm |
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Quote: hm, that's interesting. scratch mix here (australia) only has a bit of corn
in it - i really wouldn't expect to feed much corn! afaik, they put a bit of
corn in for the yellowness of the yolks, but i don't even know if that works
or not (i give mine grass for that, which they like heaps more than they
like corn anyway). i give mine some cornflakes from time to time because
they love it, but not very often.
Kylie is it sold as scratch mix? I don't think I've ever seen it
available in WA but then I really only buy layer pellets - everything
else I use is grown on farm.
Quote: anyway, where was i? the bulk of the scratch mix is wheat, with millet,
sunflower seeds and something else i can't identify, with laying pellets
mixed in too. i give mine scratch mix once a day at the most. they enjoy it,
but i don't feel it's balanced in & of itself.
Sounds like something I buy for my canaries 
Quote: as above. wheat is the whole-grain of choice here afaik (certainly in my
area, it seems) & in my limited experience, but i don't believe it's used
for the bulk of laying pellet recipes - other grains are. the breeder from
whom i got my last batch of chickies - who are so lovely (the chooks, not
the breeder i shall buy from him again - suggests wheat as their whole
grain if you're giving a whole grain. they love sprouted wheat too, & i know
many people feed that as well.
kylie
Wheat is my staple grain for the hens too, mostly for convenience and
also the hens do well with that. They don't eat much barley or oats,
they ignored sunflowers for ages and eat a little canola. Greens are the
shortest in supply and the one thing they will eat over everything else
and at this time of the year the only greens is my lawn.
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Ginny - in West Australia
verba volant, scripta manent
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| 0tterbot |
| Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:56 am |
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"Ginny" <glvl88REMOVETHIS@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:45e22149@quokka.wn.com.au...
Quote: Kylie is it sold as scratch mix? I don't think I've ever seen it available
in WA but then I really only buy layer pellets - everything else I use is
grown on farm.
that's cool! but yes, that's what it's called (i'm in nsw). or just "mix".
(that might be a local-ism). i've tried 3 or 4 brands, it all looks pretty
much the same.
Quote: Sounds like something I buy for my canaries
looks a lot like that too - like big budgie mix :-)
Quote: Wheat is my staple grain for the hens too, mostly for convenience and also
the hens do well with that. They don't eat much barley or oats, they
ignored sunflowers for ages and eat a little canola. Greens are the
shortest in supply and the one thing they will eat over everything else
and at this time of the year the only greens is my lawn.
we didn't have rain for ever so long, but now it's bucketed, i can't keep up
with it!! the chooks think it's brilliant to get grass every day again. they
thoughtlessly denuded their run of edible grass, so i pick it for them.
i was watching them today with the scratch mix they had for lunch - normally
there are scuffles over the sunflower seed & there's not much of that in the
mix anyway, and the corn is left until it's clear there's nothing else. but
i believe they choose according to what they need at that time as it was a
bit different today. (the corn was still last again though!).
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| FarmI |
| Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:14 pm |
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"0tterbot" <spl@t.com> wrote in message
Quote: "Jan Flora" <snowshoe@xyz.net> wrote in message
The price of corn in America is going up, due to the ethanol
thingy'bob for fuel for autos.
Do any of you know of other grains that we can feed, instead
of corn-based scratch?
hm, that's interesting. scratch mix here (australia) only has a bit of
corn in it - i really wouldn't expect to feed much corn! afaik, they put a
bit of corn in for the yellowness of the yolks,
anyway, where was i? the bulk of the scratch mix is wheat, with millet,
sunflower seeds and something else i can't identify, with laying pellets
mixed in too.
LOL. I was sitting here trying to remember just what was in the Aussie mix
and I too cannot recall what the mix is.
Quote: Are corn prices jumping in other countries?
i have no idea!
Yes! Hugely - seven years of drought has resulted in a doubling (or near
doubling) of the price of all stock feed |
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| FarmI |
| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:42 pm |
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"Ginny" <glvl88REMOVETHIS@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Quote:
hm, that's interesting. scratch mix here (australia)
Kylie is it sold as scratch mix?
It is. I have several brands available where I live in NSW.
Greens are the
Quote: shortest in supply and the one thing they will eat over everything else
and at this time of the year the only greens is my lawn.
Ginny could you grow a patch of silver beet for them? I know mine love it
and even in the worst of the drought it is one of the good tough greens that
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| Ginny |
| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:17 am |
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Actually, that is the problem. My vegie garden suffered locusts until
Christmas and since there is no green anywhere at present the guinea
fowl have taken to the vegie garden. All the seeds, seedlings and
smaller plants they have eaten and they fly over any fence. They love
hiding in under the corn on the hot days and the only other thing I have
growing that they haven't touched are the climbing beans and tomatoes.
They have totally stripped all the brassicas, silverbeet, radish and
rhubarb plants to the point they have killed them all bar two rhubarb
which are growing elsewhere and protected. I tried covering individual
plants but the wind keeps blowing over any solid protection and netting
hasn't been very successful either.
I saw the answer on a Martha Stewart program where one lady had her
vegies growing inside a large cage but a cage or enclosure hasn't
eventuated yet :-)
FarmI wrote:
Quote: Ginny could you grow a patch of silver beet for them? I know mine love it
and even in the worst of the drought it is one of the good tough greens that
will produce reasonably well with relatively limited water.
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Ginny - in West Australia
verba volant, scripta manent
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