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Turin
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:01 am
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Yet another "stellar" example of how women aren't really
from Venus, or Men from Mars, because we're all products of
our socialization. Poooooor Lisa. How are we all going to
cover for her?

Man. All of the sympathetic spin on this story is enough to
make you puke, no matter how many examples of it we have to
see played out: Female does wrong. A Man is involved.

Humanize her. Humanize her. Humanize her.


Of course, it's not simply the fact that it was a Man who
she snapped over that has to be explained away and
vindicated. It's a double-whammy: She represents a woman
in a super field, where the "women are breaking through"
....the Ozone "Ceiling", this time, I guess.

As so often happens, the earliest ones in show up the
shortcomings of fast-tracking in the women, instead of
making them earn it with some special hazing. Until a field
is fine-tuned enough to force the Men around the women to
compensate for these slackers (and to condition themselves
to be invisible about it) embarrassing incidents occur.

Thereafter, the all-important *image* of the "female
professional" for that field is temporarily in danger. The
image that that they plan to rely on well into eternity
....once they break through and turn it into an entitlement.


A couple months ago, Sunita Williams fucked up the solar
panels on the space station so that the Men had to go out
and fix them. Meanwhile, everyone's tacitly blaming the
solar panels, instead of the asshole at the controls.

"Oh, they must've been old."

"Roger Charlie." *Thumbs up*
"Let's talk shop like the guys."


Now, it's a variation on the "supermom" theme. "Lisa Nowak
is a human being, like you and me." Bullshit. It's because
she's a WOMAN. No other reason.


She drives to the airport wearing diapers? Hello! For her
sake, that had better be an astronaut thing in use with
spacesuits and other times in space when you're incommoded
for hours. Otherwise, how the hell did they miss THAT in
her psyche profile?

Good person? She's married with kids but brings some love
mails between her and another Man to prove her infidelity.
Another character slam.


Then, of course, there's all of that minor weaponry she
brought with her, "simply" to intimidate.

"Oh, boo! hoo! Poor Lisa!" "Us female reporters and our
token males had better start dragging out her high school
pictures and every other "accomplishment" that AA ever gave
to her in order to obfuscate what she did.


Another point is that all of this is only because she
assaulted another female. A lot may be on the line for
female astronauts at the moment, but she can't be allowed to
get away with assaulting another female - albeit, a civilian
- or that's counter-productive to "women's gains".

Had she assaulted a male astronaut for some reason, in
virtually the same exact way, she'd be getting standing
ovations and guest starring on Saturday Night Live.
Instead, she plays out something out of Fatal Attraction and
so she's up on some real charges. Fuck that shit.





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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070206/ap_on_re_us/astronaut_arrested



Astronaut charged with attempted murder

By MIKE SCHNEIDER,
Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 55 minutes ago

ORLANDO, Fla. - She was the Robochick. He was Billy-O.
According to police, her obsession with him led her to drive
900 miles from Houston to Orlando, bringing with her a
trenchcoat and wig, armed with a BB gun and pepper spray,
and wearing a diaper to avoid bathroom breaks on the arduous
drive.

Once in Florida, Lisa "Robochick" Nowak apparently
confronted the woman she believed was her rival for the
affections of William "Billy-O" Oefelein. And this tawdry
love triangle has one more twist — it involves two astronauts.

Nowak, 43, a married mother of three who flew on a space
shuttle in July, was charged with attempted murder, accused
of hatching an extraordinary plot to kidnap Colleen Shipman,
who she believed was romantically involved with Oefelein, a
space shuttle pilot.

Specifically, police said Nowak confronted Shipman, who was
in her car at the Orlando airport, and sprayed something at
her, possibly pepper spray.

At first the astronaut was charged with attempted kidnapping
and other counts, and a judge had permitted her release on
bail. Then, in a surprise move, prosecutors upped the charge
to attempted murder, basing it on the weapons and other
items they said they had found with Nowak or in her car: a
pepper spray package, an unused BB-gun cartridge, a new
steel mallet, knife, rubber tubing and large garbage bags.

Nowak's lawyer, Donald Lykkebak, disputed that upgraded
charge, which allowed police to keep the astronaut in jail.
"In the imaginations of the police officers, they extend
these facts out into areas where the facts can't be
supported," said Lykkebak.

As the hearings on charges and bail played out on TV, the
astonishing details about the case were repeatedly broadcast
and quickly made the rounds of office e-mails and Internet
blogs.

The details of the relationships of all three were unclear.
Nowak and Oefelein, who both live in the Houston area, had
trained together as astronauts, but never flew into space
together. Shipman, 30, works at Patrick Air Force Base near
Kennedy Space Center.

Earlier, Nowak was quoted by police as saying she and
Oefelein had something "more than a working relationship but
less than a romantic relationship."

Neither Oefelein nor Shipman could be reached for comment
Tuesday, nor could Nowak's husband be found.

But police found a letter in Nowak's car that "indicated how
much Mrs. Nowak loved Mr. Oefelein," the arrest affidavit
said. And Nowak had copies of e-mails between Shipman and
Oefelein.

Police said Nowak, believing Shipman was romantically
involved with Oefelein, had driven 900 miles from Houston —
wearing diapers in the car so she would not have to make
bathroom stops — to confront Shipman as she arrived in
Orlando on a flight from Houston.

There, police said, Nowak donned a wig and trench coat,
boarded an airport shuttle bus with Shipman and followed her
to her car. Then, crying, Nowak sprayed a chemical into the car.

Shipman drove to a parking lot booth and sought help.

Inside Nowak's car, which was parked at a nearby motel,
authorities copies of e-mails between Shipman and Oefelein,
along with the BB-gun cartridge and other items.

A police affidavit made public Tuesday noted Nowak had
"urinated in a diaper so that she did not need to stop," and
"stealthily followed the victim while in disguise and
possessed multiple deadly weapons."

The affidavit said the circumstances of the case "create a
well-founded fear" and gave investigators "probable cause to
believe that Mrs. Nowak intended to murder Ms. Shipman."

The judge initially had set bail at $15,500 and ordered
Nowak to stay away from Shipman and wear an electronic
monitoring device upon returning to her home in Houston.

"I guess they didn't like the ruling in the court this
morning, did they?" Lykkebak said.

He said that Nowak only wanted to talk to Shipman. Asked
about the weapons, he said, "You can sit and speculate all day."

Saying he was surprised by the case,
NASA spokesman John Ira Petty at Johnson Space Center in
Houston said he was concerned about the people involved and
their families. But, he added, "We try not to concern
ourselves with our employees' personal lives."

A vague profile began to emerge of Nowak, who was graduated
from high school in Maryland in 1981 and the U.S. Naval
Academy in 1985. She has won various Navy service awards.

In a September interview with Ladies' Home Journal, Nowak
said her husband, Richard, "works in Mission Control, so
he's part of the whole space business, too. And supportive
also."

On Tuesday, a Houston neighbor, Bryan Lam, told The
Associated Press that in November he heard the sounds of
dishes being thrown inside the house and the police came.

"I've seen them arguing before," he said.

Nowak, in a NASA interview last year, before her mission
aboard Discovery, as well as in an interview with ABC News,
spoke about the strain her career placed on her family. She
has twin 5-year-old girls and a son who is 14 or 15.

"It's a sacrifice for our own personal time and our families
and the people around us," she said in the NASA interview.
"But I do think it's worth it because if you don't explore
and take risks and go do all these things they everything
will stay the same."

In an in-flight news conference aboard Discovery last
summer, she talked about waiting nearly 10 years for her
first space flight. "It's been a long wait, but it's worth
the wait," she said.

NASA astronauts often have nicknames, at least among their
crewmates and Mission Control. Aboard Discovery last July,
Nowak and crewmate Stephanie Wilson were known as "the
Robochicks" because they operated the shuttle's robotic arm
that checked the spacecraft for damage.

While on the international space station, Nowak's crewmates
sometimes had to duck to avoid her ponytail, which floated
out during weightlessness.

In court early Tuesday, looking downcast, Nowak spoke only
to respond, "Yes," when asked whether she understood the
conditions of her release.

A smiling, put-together woman in her NASA photos, her police
mug shot showed a fatigued, haggard face with scraggly hair,
seemingly destined to become the object of public ridicule.
On Tuesday morning, it was shown on MSNBC's "Imus in the
Morning" next to the oft-posted mug shot of actor Nick Nolte
after his DUI arrest.

Oefelein, a 41-year-old Navy commander nicknamed "Billy-O"
by his comrades, trained with Nowak but never flew with her.
He piloted a Discovery mission in December to the space
station where astronauts rewired the outpost, installed a
new $11 million section and dropped off a new American crew
member.

Oefelein is unmarried but has two children. He began his
aviation career as a teenager, flying floatplanes in Alaska.

As a child, he and his brother spent hours flying model
plans with their father and attending air shows. And old
photo taken of him at age 8 shows him standing next to a
NASA jet.

"I love my time flying," he told The Associated Press last
year before his Discovery mission in December. "This is
another fortunate opportunity I've been blessed with."

The Orlando Sentinel reported Shipman, 30, is an engineer
assigned to the 45th Launch Support Squadron at Patrick air
base, and a Federal Aviation Administration pilot directory
indicates she is certified as a student pilot.

Nowak spent much of the day in glass-fronted cell of about
80 square feet, by herself and under constant observation,
said Allen Moore, a spokesman for the Orange County jail.

Chief astronaut Steve Lindsey, who flew with Nowak to the
space station last July aboard Discovery, and fellow
astronaut Chris Ferguson attended the hearing.

"Our primary concern is her health and well-being and that
she get through this," Lindsey told reporters afterward.
"Her status (with the astronaut corps) has not changed."

Ferguson said he was "perplexed" by Nowak's alleged actions.

An expert familiar with the psychological screening process
NASA uses for its astronauts said she could not explain
Nowak's behavior and stressed the interview process "only
looks at the past" and can't predict future behavior.

At least one retired astronaut, Jerry Linenger, said the
space agency should re-examine its psychological screening
process. With NASA talking about going to Mars, a 2 1/2-year
trip, it would be dangerous for someone to "snap like this"
during the mission, he said.

"An astronaut is probably the most studied human being by
the time you go through your testing, your training,"
Linenger said. "I think there's still a lot of unknowns out
there."

However, Dr. Patricia Santy, a psychiatrist in Ann Arbor,
Mich., and a former NASA flight surgeon who once helped
screen astronauts, said, "People change.

"They can develop psychological problems at any stage of the
way. Perhaps that's part of it. Perhaps it's just, love
triangles occur in offices that you and I work in all the time."

Santy stressed she did not know the details of Nowak's
evaluation. But speaking generally, she said that while
astronauts are extraordinary people, "they put their flight
boots on one foot at a time, after all. They have marital
problems, they have problems with their kids, they have
problems at work."

___

AP National Writer Erin McClam reported from New York for
this story. AP writers Malcolm Ritter in New York, Seth
Borenstein in Washington, Rasha Madkour in Houston, Kelli
Kennedy in Miami and Jim Ellis in Cape Canaveral contributed
to this report.
YooperBoyka
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:07 am
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"Turin" <TurinTurambar.1@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:


Man. All of the sympathetic spin on this story is enough to make you
puke,

Greta Van Sustren,... I swear to God, asked some goomer if
"going into space" would have made her snap.

Now honestly I think that's about the dumbest thing I have ever
heard, but it says little about gender.
(Actually, it sounded like the media was ready to crucify her till
they realized her past wasn't as dirty as "CSI Miami" would have predicted.)
It says more about how western culture has devolved into personal
navel contemplation all around.
The fact that you think that this oddball whacko case is proof of some
wild ass conspiracy before anyone has presented any evidence tells
me that you're a victim of the same sheeple mentality.

"I saw it on CNN so it *must* be true!!!"

Get a job and buy a life.



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Brian Gaff
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:08 am
Guest
Well, who poked you then. Being outside the US, I suppose you could say I
know nothing. However,I think people are innocent until proven guilty in
your neck of the woods still, unlike those held in a certain part of Cuba,
that is. People, no matter what walk of life they are in, are prone to
errors. As I've said before, nobody is perfect, male or female. What about
all those extras which got flown to the moon for personal gain?

As regards the solar cells, I point you at the fact that when those were
deployed problems occurred and it is suspected the damage was done then.

You sound like a typical woman hater, if you don't mind me saying so.
Bearing in mind that Space is dangerous, I doubt anyone would fly who might
give cause for concern..

Brian

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"Turin" <TurinTurambar.1@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Yet another "stellar" example of how women aren't really from Venus, or
Men from Mars, because we're all products of our socialization. Poooooor
Lisa. How are we all going to cover for her?

Man. All of the sympathetic spin on this story is enough to make you
puke, no matter how many examples of it we have to see played out: Female
does wrong. A Man is involved.

Humanize her. Humanize her. Humanize her.


Of course, it's not simply the fact that it was a Man who she snapped over
that has to be explained away and vindicated. It's a double-whammy: She
represents a woman in a super field, where the "women are breaking
through" ...the Ozone "Ceiling", this time, I guess.

As so often happens, the earliest ones in show up the shortcomings of
fast-tracking in the women, instead of making them earn it with some
special hazing. Until a field is fine-tuned enough to force the Men
around the women to compensate for these slackers (and to condition
themselves to be invisible about it) embarrassing incidents occur.

Thereafter, the all-important *image* of the "female professional" for
that field is temporarily in danger. The image that that they plan to
rely on well into eternity ...once they break through and turn it into an
entitlement.


A couple months ago, Sunita Williams fucked up the solar panels on the
space station so that the Men had to go out and fix them. Meanwhile,
everyone's tacitly blaming the solar panels, instead of the asshole at the
controls.

"Oh, they must've been old."

"Roger Charlie." *Thumbs up*
"Let's talk shop like the guys."


Now, it's a variation on the "supermom" theme. "Lisa Nowak is a human
being, like you and me." Bullshit. It's because she's a WOMAN. No other
reason.


She drives to the airport wearing diapers? Hello! For her sake, that had
better be an astronaut thing in use with spacesuits and other times in
space when you're incommoded for hours. Otherwise, how the hell did they
miss THAT in her psyche profile?

Good person? She's married with kids but brings some love mails between
her and another Man to prove her infidelity. Another character slam.


Then, of course, there's all of that minor weaponry she brought with her,
"simply" to intimidate.

"Oh, boo! hoo! Poor Lisa!" "Us female reporters and our token males had
better start dragging out her high school pictures and every other
"accomplishment" that AA ever gave to her in order to obfuscate what she
did.


Another point is that all of this is only because she assaulted another
female. A lot may be on the line for female astronauts at the moment, but
she can't be allowed to get away with assaulting another female - albeit,
a civilian - or that's counter-productive to "women's gains".

Had she assaulted a male astronaut for some reason, in virtually the same
exact way, she'd be getting standing ovations and guest starring on
Saturday Night Live. Instead, she plays out something out of Fatal
Attraction and so she's up on some real charges. Fuck that shit.





- - -

One of millions of Angry Men:

Turin


I have such sites to show you...
------------------------

http://members.fortunecity.com/turinturambar/
http://groups.google.com/group/Men_First/ ?

------------------------

"He who changeth, altereth, misconstrueth, argueth with, deleteth, or
maketh a lie about these words or causeth them to not be known shall burn
in hell forever and ever...."

-----




http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070206/ap_on_re_us/astronaut_arrested



Astronaut charged with attempted murder

By MIKE SCHNEIDER,
Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 55 minutes ago

ORLANDO, Fla. - She was the Robochick. He was Billy-O. According to
police, her obsession with him led her to drive 900 miles from Houston to
Orlando, bringing with her a trenchcoat and wig, armed with a BB gun and
pepper spray, and wearing a diaper to avoid bathroom breaks on the arduous
drive.

Once in Florida, Lisa "Robochick" Nowak apparently confronted the woman
she believed was her rival for the affections of William "Billy-O"
Oefelein. And this tawdry love triangle has one more twist - it involves
two astronauts.

Nowak, 43, a married mother of three who flew on a space shuttle in July,
was charged with attempted murder, accused of hatching an extraordinary
plot to kidnap Colleen Shipman, who she believed was romantically involved
with Oefelein, a space shuttle pilot.

Specifically, police said Nowak confronted Shipman, who was in her car at
the Orlando airport, and sprayed something at her, possibly pepper spray.

At first the astronaut was charged with attempted kidnapping and other
counts, and a judge had permitted her release on bail. Then, in a surprise
move, prosecutors upped the charge to attempted murder, basing it on the
weapons and other items they said they had found with Nowak or in her car:
a pepper spray package, an unused BB-gun cartridge, a new steel mallet,
knife, rubber tubing and large garbage bags.

Nowak's lawyer, Donald Lykkebak, disputed that upgraded charge, which
allowed police to keep the astronaut in jail. "In the imaginations of the
police officers, they extend these facts out into areas where the facts
can't be supported," said Lykkebak.

As the hearings on charges and bail played out on TV, the astonishing
details about the case were repeatedly broadcast and quickly made the
rounds of office e-mails and Internet blogs.

The details of the relationships of all three were unclear. Nowak and
Oefelein, who both live in the Houston area, had trained together as
astronauts, but never flew into space together. Shipman, 30, works at
Patrick Air Force Base near
Kennedy Space Center.

Earlier, Nowak was quoted by police as saying she and Oefelein had
something "more than a working relationship but less than a romantic
relationship."

Neither Oefelein nor Shipman could be reached for comment Tuesday, nor
could Nowak's husband be found.

But police found a letter in Nowak's car that "indicated how much Mrs.
Nowak loved Mr. Oefelein," the arrest affidavit said. And Nowak had copies
of e-mails between Shipman and Oefelein.

Police said Nowak, believing Shipman was romantically involved with
Oefelein, had driven 900 miles from Houston - wearing diapers in the car
so she would not have to make bathroom stops - to confront Shipman as she
arrived in Orlando on a flight from Houston.

There, police said, Nowak donned a wig and trench coat, boarded an airport
shuttle bus with Shipman and followed her to her car. Then, crying, Nowak
sprayed a chemical into the car.

Shipman drove to a parking lot booth and sought help.

Inside Nowak's car, which was parked at a nearby motel, authorities copies
of e-mails between Shipman and Oefelein, along with the BB-gun cartridge
and other items.

A police affidavit made public Tuesday noted Nowak had "urinated in a
diaper so that she did not need to stop," and "stealthily followed the
victim while in disguise and possessed multiple deadly weapons."

The affidavit said the circumstances of the case "create a well-founded
fear" and gave investigators "probable cause to believe that Mrs. Nowak
intended to murder Ms. Shipman."

The judge initially had set bail at $15,500 and ordered Nowak to stay away
from Shipman and wear an electronic monitoring device upon returning to
her home in Houston.

"I guess they didn't like the ruling in the court this morning, did they?"
Lykkebak said.

He said that Nowak only wanted to talk to Shipman. Asked about the
weapons, he said, "You can sit and speculate all day."

Saying he was surprised by the case,
NASA spokesman John Ira Petty at Johnson Space Center in Houston said he
was concerned about the people involved and their families. But, he added,
"We try not to concern ourselves with our employees' personal lives."

A vague profile began to emerge of Nowak, who was graduated from high
school in Maryland in 1981 and the U.S. Naval Academy in 1985. She has won
various Navy service awards.

In a September interview with Ladies' Home Journal, Nowak said her
husband, Richard, "works in Mission Control, so he's part of the whole
space business, too. And supportive also."

On Tuesday, a Houston neighbor, Bryan Lam, told The Associated Press that
in November he heard the sounds of dishes being thrown inside the house
and the police came.

"I've seen them arguing before," he said.

Nowak, in a NASA interview last year, before her mission aboard Discovery,
as well as in an interview with ABC News, spoke about the strain her
career placed on her family. She has twin 5-year-old girls and a son who
is 14 or 15.

"It's a sacrifice for our own personal time and our families and the
people around us," she said in the NASA interview. "But I do think it's
worth it because if you don't explore and take risks and go do all these
things they everything will stay the same."

In an in-flight news conference aboard Discovery last summer, she talked
about waiting nearly 10 years for her first space flight. "It's been a
long wait, but it's worth the wait," she said.

NASA astronauts often have nicknames, at least among their crewmates and
Mission Control. Aboard Discovery last July, Nowak and crewmate Stephanie
Wilson were known as "the Robochicks" because they operated the shuttle's
robotic arm that checked the spacecraft for damage.

While on the international space station, Nowak's crewmates sometimes had
to duck to avoid her ponytail, which floated out during weightlessness.

In court early Tuesday, looking downcast, Nowak spoke only to respond,
"Yes," when asked whether she understood the conditions of her release.

A smiling, put-together woman in her NASA photos, her police mug shot
showed a fatigued, haggard face with scraggly hair, seemingly destined to
become the object of public ridicule. On Tuesday morning, it was shown on
MSNBC's "Imus in the Morning" next to the oft-posted mug shot of actor
Nick Nolte after his DUI arrest.

Oefelein, a 41-year-old Navy commander nicknamed "Billy-O" by his
comrades, trained with Nowak but never flew with her. He piloted a
Discovery mission in December to the space station where astronauts
rewired the outpost, installed a new $11 million section and dropped off a
new American crew member.

Oefelein is unmarried but has two children. He began his aviation career
as a teenager, flying floatplanes in Alaska.

As a child, he and his brother spent hours flying model plans with their
father and attending air shows. And old photo taken of him at age 8 shows
him standing next to a NASA jet.

"I love my time flying," he told The Associated Press last year before his
Discovery mission in December. "This is another fortunate opportunity I've
been blessed with."

The Orlando Sentinel reported Shipman, 30, is an engineer assigned to the
45th Launch Support Squadron at Patrick air base, and a Federal Aviation
Administration pilot directory indicates she is certified as a student
pilot.

Nowak spent much of the day in glass-fronted cell of about 80 square feet,
by herself and under constant observation, said Allen Moore, a spokesman
for the Orange County jail.

Chief astronaut Steve Lindsey, who flew with Nowak to the space station
last July aboard Discovery, and fellow astronaut Chris Ferguson attended
the hearing.

"Our primary concern is her health and well-being and that she get through
this," Lindsey told reporters afterward. "Her status (with the astronaut
corps) has not changed."

Ferguson said he was "perplexed" by Nowak's alleged actions.

An expert familiar with the psychological screening process NASA uses for
its astronauts said she could not explain Nowak's behavior and stressed
the interview process "only looks at the past" and can't predict future
behavior.

At least one retired astronaut, Jerry Linenger, said the space agency
should re-examine its psychological screening process. With NASA talking
about going to Mars, a 2 1/2-year trip, it would be dangerous for someone
to "snap like this" during the mission, he said.

"An astronaut is probably the most studied human being by the time you go
through your testing, your training," Linenger said. "I think there's
still a lot of unknowns out there."

However, Dr. Patricia Santy, a psychiatrist in Ann Arbor, Mich., and a
former NASA flight surgeon who once helped screen astronauts, said,
"People change.

"They can develop psychological problems at any stage of the way. Perhaps
that's part of it. Perhaps it's just, love triangles occur in offices that
you and I work in all the time."

Santy stressed she did not know the details of Nowak's evaluation. But
speaking generally, she said that while astronauts are extraordinary
people, "they put their flight boots on one foot at a time, after all.
They have marital problems, they have problems with their kids, they have
problems at work."

___

AP National Writer Erin McClam reported from New York for this story. AP
writers Malcolm Ritter in New York, Seth Borenstein in Washington, Rasha
Madkour in Houston, Kelli Kennedy in Miami and Jim Ellis in Cape Canaveral
contributed to this report.



Steven L.
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:02 pm
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Turin wrote:
Quote:
Yet another "stellar" example of how women aren't really from Venus, or
Men from Mars, because we're all products of our socialization.
Poooooor Lisa. How are we all going to cover for her?

First of all, the photos of her at her arrest practically scream
"Junkie!" at us. She needs to be tested for substance abuse--she looks
like she filched a few amphetamines out of the medical kit on her last
mission.

Secondly, I still think there could be some previously unsuspected
interaction between a woman's natural hormonal cycles and the
environment of space. She was exposed to cosmic rays and weightlessness
and, just as with alcohol, maybe that affects women more than men? What
if cosmic rays exacerbate PMS, producing a new kind of severe "space PMS"?



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Quote:
Turin wrote:
Yet another "stellar" example of how women aren't really from Venus, or
Men from Mars, because we're all products of our socialization.
Poooooor Lisa. How are we all going to cover for her?

First of all, the photos of her at her arrest practically scream
"Junkie!" at us. She needs to be tested for substance abuse--she looks
like she filched a few amphetamines out of the medical kit on her last
mission.

Secondly, I still think there could be some previously unsuspected
interaction between a woman's natural hormonal cycles and the environment
of space. She was exposed to cosmic rays and weightlessness and, just as
with alcohol, maybe that affects women more than men? What if cosmic
rays exacerbate PMS, producing a new kind of severe "space PMS"?

Or perhaps the long drive while not stopping and while wearing a diaper
took it's toll on her appearence. Perhaps too she left Houston in a bit of
a hurry and didn't clean herself up beforehand. It's not like she was
planning to go on a date. Perhaps her appearence when she was nabbed is
just another indication of how messed up she was mentally at the time. I
would think that if she had been under the influence, we'd have heard about
it by now.

George
Guest
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:06 pm
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 11:48:45 -0500, "George" <george@yourservice.com>
wrote:

Quote:

"Steven L." <sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:CKmyh.25415$X72.2087@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
Turin wrote:
Yet another "stellar" example of how women aren't really from Venus, or
Men from Mars, because we're all products of our socialization.
Poooooor Lisa. How are we all going to cover for her?

First of all, the photos of her at her arrest practically scream
"Junkie!" at us. She needs to be tested for substance abuse--she looks
like she filched a few amphetamines out of the medical kit on her last
mission.

Secondly, I still think there could be some previously unsuspected
interaction between a woman's natural hormonal cycles and the environment
of space. She was exposed to cosmic rays and weightlessness and, just as
with alcohol, maybe that affects women more than men? What if cosmic
rays exacerbate PMS, producing a new kind of severe "space PMS"?

Or perhaps the long drive while not stopping and while wearing a diaper
took it's toll on her appearence. Perhaps too she left Houston in a bit of
a hurry and didn't clean herself up beforehand. It's not like she was
planning to go on a date. Perhaps her appearence when she was nabbed is
just another indication of how messed up she was mentally at the time. I
would think that if she had been under the influence, we'd have heard about
it by now.

George



Poor little thing.
amused onlooker
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:39 pm
Guest
"YooperBoyka" <cjdon'tlike@no.spam> wrote

Quote:
Greta Van Sustren,... I swear to God, asked some goomer if
"going into space" would have made her snap.

Hey! That would probably make a great defence.

"Whilst in space my client was hit by some stray violence inducing gamma
rays which latently and temporarily transformed her normally caring and
nurturing personality blah blah..."
Italian Stallion
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:15 pm
Guest
KenPisano wrote:

Quote:
Secondly, I still think there could be some previously unsuspected
interaction between a woman's natural hormonal cycles and the
environment of space. She was exposed to cosmic rays and
weightlessness and, just as with alcohol, maybe that affects women
more than men? What if cosmic rays exacerbate PMS, producing a new
kind of severe "space PMS"?

Or perhaps the long drive while not stopping and while wearing a
diaper took it's toll on her appearence. Perhaps too she left
Houston in a bit of a hurry and didn't clean herself up beforehand.
It's not like she was planning to go on a date. Perhaps her
appearence when she was nabbed is just another indication of how
messed up she was mentally at the time. I would think that if she
had been under the influence, we'd have heard about it by now.

George



Poor little thing.



I'm sorry, you guys don't get the gist of this symbolic event.

Let me explain you this starting from scratch.

The fact is women's orgasmic capacity.
Chicks have the capability to enjoy hours of multi-orgasmic sex.
Men can't stand such a sexual potential.
In fact rarely a man is able to give a woman the pleasure she deserves.
Usually your hapless dick goes broke after few minutes.

Therefore a thing is clear now.
Female superiority and the necessity of more than one man to sexually
satisfy a woman.

You can say all evils of our society come from the sexual frustration men
impose on women today.
Particuarly today, when women are surrounded by good-looking and apparently
(and often actually) willing men. You turn on the TV or radio, go to the
movies, head for the mall, (even go to the church) and what do you
encounter? And then you compare what's out there to what's at home. I mean,
it's only natural. For the benefit of all. Beta males have to start to enjoy
the infinite sexual power of their mistresses. They must do house's chores
and admire their mistress' naturally deserved freedom.

Women naturally deserves more than one man only. Polyandry is the Future.

I'm proud of this courageous woman, Lisa Nowak.
She is an astronaut. She is the oppressed woman *per antonomasia*, and in
his symbolic role of precursor and forerunner of all other women in the
outer Space, she has call out loudly all the oppression male-chauvinism
caused here on Earth. She pointed out the harsh reality these chauvinist
males impose to women everywhere.

Today the male-chauvinist menace is stronger than ever. US government in
cahoots with Illuminati, Reptilians and Elvis Presley (he'll come back as
soon as compulsory polyandry will be enacted) is preparing the nth and
worst menace for westerners women : Poligamy.

Proofs are overwhelming. Here you can find the video of a CIA secret agent
propagandizing poligamy and urging its application in the west :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X65F9w0Neo

Spread this message and wake up the damn sheeple !
Society
Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:17 am
Guest
"amused onlooker" <null@void.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

"YooperBoyka" <cjdon'tlike@no.spam> wrote

Greta Van Sustren,... I swear to God,
asked some goomer if "going into space"
would have made her snap.

Hey! That would probably make a great defence.

"Whilst in space my client was hit by some stray
violence inducing gamma rays which latently
and temporarily transformed her normally caring
and nurturing personality blah blah..."

Lisa Nowak's defense team could enter old episodes
of _Outer Limits_ into evidence. The CNN crowd
(and others in radio and television I heard make
the same sort of stupid remark as Greta van Sustren)
appears to believe those shows were _documentaries_!

Plus, don't forget that in the _Star Trek_ universe,
there's always the Alien Influence Defense. :-)

Who would have thunk it that all those years
watching the boob toob would prepare me
for the criminal trials of the future better than
all those courses in law school, eh?

--
View and read everything with skepticism.
Remember that truth and information
are not synonyms. And do learn to think
for yourself. There already are more than
enough sheep in this world.

Charley Reese
 
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