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Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:44 pm |
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Hello everyone,
I'm trying to reproduce the example integral on MathWorld for Leibniz
Integral Rule
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LeibnizIntegralRule.html
namely,
\phi[\alpha] = \int_0^\pi log[1 - 2 \alpha \cos[x] + \alpha^2 ] dx = 2
\pi log | \alpha |
It appears a little strange that, the LHS and RHS do not match up when
\alpha \to 0, since the former would be int_0^\pi log[1] dx = 0,
whereas the latter would be 2 \pi log[0] = -\infty. Am I missing
something?
I actually got up to
\phi[\alpha] = 2 \pi log | \alpha | + constant
by differentiating w.r.t \alpha, changing variables to t = \tan[x/2],
obtaining an even integrand in t, extending the limits from {0, \infty}
to {-\infty, \infty} and then using contour integration. But I'm unable
to show that the above constant is zero as asserted in MathWorld.
Thanks for the help, and happy holidays! |
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| G. A. Edgar |
Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:42 am |
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In article <1166845444.134113.318100@i12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
<wandering.the.cosmos@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Hello everyone,
I'm trying to reproduce the example integral on MathWorld for Leibniz
Integral Rule
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LeibnizIntegralRule.html
namely,
\phi[\alpha] = \int_0^\pi log[1 - 2 \alpha \cos[x] + \alpha^2 ] dx = 2
\pi log | \alpha |
It appears a little strange that, the LHS and RHS do not match up when
\alpha \to 0,
Note the condition |alpha| > 1 ?? When -1 < alpha < 1, then
the integrand is unbounded, and there are negative values inside the
logarithm.
Quote: since the former would be int_0^\pi log[1] dx = 0,
whereas the latter would be 2 \pi log[0] = -\infty. Am I missing
something?
I actually got up to
\phi[\alpha] = 2 \pi log | \alpha | + constant
by differentiating w.r.t \alpha, changing variables to t = \tan[x/2],
obtaining an even integrand in t, extending the limits from {0, \infty}
to {-\infty, \infty} and then using contour integration. But I'm unable
to show that the above constant is zero as asserted in MathWorld.
Thanks for the help, and happy holidays!
Take the integrand log(1-2*a*cos(x)+a^2)
Differentiate with respect to a, to get
(-2*cos(x)+2*a)/(1-2*a*cos(x)+a^2)
Integrate that x=0 to Pi to get 2*pi/a, here we must assume a>2.
Integrate with respect to a to get the answer.
As you know, putting a=0 to get the constant doesn't
work. Try letting a -> infinity to do that.
The original integral is asymptotic to 2*Pi*log(a), so
the constant must be zero.
--
G. A. Edgar http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~edgar/ |
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| G. A. Edgar |
Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:46 am |
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| Dushan Mitrovich |
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 3:09 am |
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"G. A. Edgar" <edgar@math.ohio-state.edu.invalid> wrote:
Quote: In article <1166845444.134113.318100@i12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
wandering.the.cosmos@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,
I'm trying to reproduce the example integral on MathWorld for Leibniz
Integral Rule
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LeibnizIntegralRule.html
namely,
\phi[\alpha] = \int_0^\pi log[1 - 2 \alpha \cos[x] + \alpha^2 ] dx = 2
\pi log | \alpha |
It appears a little strange that, the LHS and RHS do not match up when
\alpha \to 0,
Note the condition |alpha| > 1 ?? When -1 < alpha < 1, then the
integrand is unbounded, and there are negative values inside the
logarithm.
But
1 - 2*a*cos(x) + a^2 = 1 - 2*a*cos(x) + a^2*(cos(x)^2 + sin(x)^2)
= (1 - a*cos(x))^2 + (a*sin(x))^2
Quote: = 0 for all real 'a' and real 'x'
so I don't understand your last statement. Am I missing something?
- Dushan Mitrovich
Quote: since the former would be int_0^\pi log[1] dx = 0,
whereas the latter would be 2 \pi log[0] = -\infty. Am I missing
something?
I actually got up to
\phi[\alpha] = 2 \pi log | \alpha | + constant
by differentiating w.r.t \alpha, changing variables to t = \tan[x/2],
obtaining an even integrand in t, extending the limits from {0, \infty}
to {-\infty, \infty} and then using contour integration. But I'm unable
to show that the above constant is zero as asserted in MathWorld.
Thanks for the help, and happy holidays!
Take the integrand log(1-2*a*cos(x)+a^2)
Differentiate with respect to a, to get
(-2*cos(x)+2*a)/(1-2*a*cos(x)+a^2)
Integrate that x=0 to Pi to get 2*pi/a, here we must assume a>2.
Integrate with respect to a to get the answer.
As you know, putting a=0 to get the constant doesn't
work. Try letting a -> infinity to do that.
The original integral is asymptotic to 2*Pi*log(a), so
the constant must be zero.
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G. A. Edgar http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~edgar/ |
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| Vladimir Bondarenko |
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 4:13 am |
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G. A. Edgar wrote:
[...]
Quote: As you know, putting a=0 to get the constant doesn't
work. Try letting a -> infinity to do that.
The original integral is asymptotic to 2*Pi*log(a), so
the constant must be zero.
[...]
A typical behavior of a theoretical physicist  |
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| CW |
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 7:39 pm |
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This graph shows the derivative :
plot(piecewise(alpha < 0,2*Pi/(alpha+1),alpha < 1,0,1 <
alpha,2/alpha*Pi),alpha=-4..4,view=[DEFAULT,-4..8],discont=true,thickness=2,color=red);
Chris
wandering.the.cosmos@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
Hello everyone,
I'm trying to reproduce the example integral on MathWorld for Leibniz
Integral Rule
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LeibnizIntegralRule.html
namely,
\phi[\alpha] = \int_0^\pi log[1 - 2 \alpha \cos[x] + \alpha^2 ] dx = 2
\pi log | \alpha |
It appears a little strange that, the LHS and RHS do not match up when
\alpha \to 0, since the former would be int_0^\pi log[1] dx = 0,
whereas the latter would be 2 \pi log[0] = -\infty. Am I missing
something?
I actually got up to
\phi[\alpha] = 2 \pi log | \alpha | + constant
by differentiating w.r.t \alpha, changing variables to t = \tan[x/2],
obtaining an even integrand in t, extending the limits from {0, \infty}
to {-\infty, \infty} and then using contour integration. But I'm unable
to show that the above constant is zero as asserted in MathWorld.
Thanks for the help, and happy holidays! |
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| Waldek Hebisch |
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:05 pm |
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G. A. Edgar <edgar@math.ohio-state.edu.invalid> wrote:
Quote: In article <1166845444.134113.318100@i12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
wandering.the.cosmos@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,
I'm trying to reproduce the example integral on MathWorld for Leibniz
Integral Rule
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LeibnizIntegralRule.html
namely,
\phi[\alpha] = \int_0^\pi log[1 - 2 \alpha \cos[x] + \alpha^2 ] dx = 2
\pi log | \alpha |
It appears a little strange that, the LHS and RHS do not match up when
\alpha \to 0,
Note the condition |alpha| > 1 ?? When -1 < alpha < 1, then
the integrand is unbounded, and there are negative values inside the
logarithm.
As Dushan Mitrovich noted the integral is convergent for all real a
(when |a| = 1 there is logarithmic (so integrable) singularity).
Quote: since the former would be int_0^\pi log[1] dx = 0,
whereas the latter would be 2 \pi log[0] = -\infty. Am I missing
something?
I actually got up to
\phi[\alpha] = 2 \pi log | \alpha | + constant
by differentiating w.r.t \alpha, changing variables to t = \tan[x/2],
obtaining an even integrand in t, extending the limits from {0, \infty}
to {-\infty, \infty} and then using contour integration. But I'm unable
to show that the above constant is zero as asserted in MathWorld.
Thanks for the help, and happy holidays!
Take the integrand log(1-2*a*cos(x)+a^2)
Differentiate with respect to a, to get
(-2*cos(x)+2*a)/(1-2*a*cos(x)+a^2)
Integrate that x=0 to Pi to get 2*pi/a, here we must assume a>2.
Integrate with respect to a to get the answer.
As you know, putting a=0 to get the constant doesn't
work. Try letting a -> infinity to do that.
The original integral is asymptotic to 2*Pi*log(a), so
the constant must be zero.
If |a| < 1, then the integral of (-2*cos(x)+2*a)/(1-2*a*cos(x)+a^2) is
0, so in the interval [-1,1] the value of \phi is constant (and equal to
zero since \phi(0) = 0). Knowing \phi in [-1,1] we can get also
|a| > 1 :
\int_0^\pi log[1 - 2 a \cos[x] + a^2 ] dx =
\int_0^\pi log[a^2] + log[1 - 2/a \cos[x] + 1/a^2 ] dx =
2\pi log[a]
--
Waldek Hebisch
hebisch@math.uni.wroc.pl |
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:05 am |
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On Jan 4, 9:05 pm, Waldek Hebisch <hebi...@math.uni.wroc.pl> wrote:
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If |a| < 1, then the integral of (-2*cos(x)+2*a)/(1-2*a*cos(x)+a^2) is
0,
Could you explain why the integral is zero for |a|<1?
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| A N Niel |
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:26 am |
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In article <1171616723.714923.311860@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com>,
<wandering.the.cosmos@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Jan 4, 9:05 pm, Waldek Hebisch <hebi...@math.uni.wroc.pl> wrote:
If |a| < 1, then the integral of (-2*cos(x)+2*a)/(1-2*a*cos(x)+a^2) is
0,
Could you explain why the integral is zero for |a|<1?
Thanks!
Cauchy's integral theorem. The integral of dz/(z-1) around the circle
|z|=a is zero if the pole 1 is outside the circle. |
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:34 pm |
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On Feb 16, 8:26 am, A N Niel <ann...@nym.alias.net.invalid> wrote:
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Cauchy's integral theorem. The integral of dz/(z-1) around the circle
|z|=a is zero if the pole 1 is outside the circle.
Is there a simple way to see that the integrand is of the form 1/(z-1)
and the contour to take is the circle |z| = a? I've managed to show
that the integral is indeed zero if |a|<1 but I first put t=tan[x/2]
and extended my integral from 0 to infty to -infty to +infty. |
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