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| javerra |
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:30 pm |
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I have fairly moderate myopia -10.5 & -12, I've been wearing
disposable soft contacts for the past few years and maybe swam
considering itching to gas permeable lenses. Is there any advantage
to one or another? Does anyone have any recommendations. Also, I
find myself in an environment where I do near work nealry all day
(looking at a computer monitor). With my degree of correction is
there anything that I should be really concerned about since im
looking at a screen nearly all day? I appreciate any opions out
there.
Tom |
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| Mike Tyner |
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:11 pm |
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"javerra" <tnavarra@flipforwardinteractive.com> wrote
Quote: I have fairly moderate myopia -10.5 & -12, I've been wearing
disposable soft contacts for the past few years and maybe swam
considering itching to gas permeable lenses. Is there any advantage
to one or another?
If you aren't having problems, it's best not to fix something that already
works.
-MT |
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:24 pm |
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On Feb 12, 9:30 am, "javerra" <tnava...@flipforwardinteractive.com>
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Quote: I have fairly moderate myopia -10.5 & -12, I've been wearing
disposable soft contacts for the past few years and maybe swam
considering itching to gas permeable lenses. Is there any advantage
to one or another? Does anyone have any recommendations. Also, I
find myself in an environment where I do near work nealry all day
(looking at a computer monitor). With my degree of correction is
there anything that I should be really concerned about since im
looking at a screen nearly all day? I appreciate any opions out
there.
Tom
Dear Tom,
-10.5 & -12 are not moderate. They are pretty severe. Since you do
near work all day, it is better to wear reading glasses over your
contact lenses while doing near work. This will prevent your myopia
from getting worse. The power of the reading glasses depends on the
distance between your eyes and the computer monitor. If the monitor
is 20" (0.5m) away from your eyes, you could use +2.00D reading
glasses.
D = 1/f = 1/0.5 = +2.00
If the monitor is further away, you could use +1.50D reading
glasses.
Try to read at your maximum clear distance. It is best to read at the
distance where the letters appear very slighly blurred but still
legible. This eliminates all the stress in the eye which causes the
myopia to get worse.
Hope this helps.
Best regards,
Myopia Cure Promoter
http://www.geocities.com/myopiacure |
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| Neil Brooks |
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:28 pm |
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On Feb 12, 11:24 am, myopiac...@yahoo.com wrote:
Quote: On Feb 12, 9:30 am, "javerra" <tnava...@flipforwardinteractive.com
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I have fairly moderate myopia -10.5 & -12, I've been wearing
disposable soft contacts for the past few years and maybe swam
considering itching to gas permeable lenses. Is there any advantage
to one or another? Does anyone have any recommendations. Also, I
find myself in an environment where I do near work nealry all day
(looking at a computer monitor). With my degree of correction is
there anything that I should be really concerned about since im
looking at a screen nearly all day? I appreciate any opions out
there.
Tom
Dear Tom,
-10.5 & -12 are not moderate. They are pretty severe. Since you do
near work all day, it is better to wear reading glasses over your
contact lenses while doing near work. This will prevent your myopia
from getting worse.
Interesting.
Enticing, even.
Can you please provide any evidence that this is true? You know:
randomized, controlled human testing that's been published in peer-
reviewed, refereed journals, or similar?
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| Mike Tyner |
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:46 pm |
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<myopiacure@yahoo.com> wrote
Hoping does more good than reading glasses.
Please forgive my friend Neil if what he asks is too much for you to
provide.
He asked for "randomized, controlled human testing that's been published in
peer-reviewed, refereed journals, or similar".
That's necessary because there are already several studies of that quality,
and they say the treatment you're recommending is worthless. Why should we
ignore Shotwell, Grosvenor, Ong, Gwiazda, Parnnisen, and all those others?
Throw it all out in deference to some guy on the internet?
There may BE some -10 myopes who get better with your therapy. Problem is,
the same number get better without it. If you have solid evidence you can
"cure" myopia, I know several professors who would like to read about it.
Where can we find your efficacy data?
-MT |
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| Dr. Leukoma |
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:59 pm |
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On Feb 12, 1:24 pm, myopiac...@yahoo.com wrote:
Quote: On Feb 12, 9:30 am, "javerra" <tnava...@flipforwardinteractive.com
wrote:
I have fairly moderate myopia -10.5 & -12, I've been wearing
disposable soft contacts for the past few years and maybe swam
considering itching to gas permeable lenses. Is there any advantage
to one or another? Does anyone have any recommendations. Also, I
find myself in an environment where I do near work nealry all day
(looking at a computer monitor). With my degree of correction is
there anything that I should be really concerned about since im
looking at a screen nearly all day? I appreciate any opions out
there.
Tom
Dear Tom,
-10.5 & -12 are not moderate. They are pretty severe. Since you do
near work all day, it is better to wear reading glasses over your
contact lenses while doing near work. This will prevent your myopia
from getting worse. The power of the reading glasses depends on the
distance between your eyes and the computer monitor. If the monitor
is 20" (0.5m) away from your eyes, you could use +2.00D reading
glasses.
D = 1/f = 1/0.5 = +2.00
If the monitor is further away, you could use +1.50D reading
glasses.
Try to read at your maximum clear distance. It is best to read at the
distance where the letters appear very slighly blurred but still
legible. This eliminates all the stress in the eye which causes the
myopia to get worse.
Hope this helps.
Best regards,
Myopia Cure Promoterhttp://www.geocities.com/myopiacure
The reason this advice is worthless is because it is based upon the
fundamental misunderstanding that accommodative "stress" causes
myopia. What is more likely the case is that inadequate accommodation
probably contributes to myopia in a person who has the genetic
predisposition.
DrG |
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| javerra |
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:24 pm |
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On Feb 12, 2:59 pm, "Dr. Leukoma" <d...@leukoma.com> wrote:
Quote: On Feb 12, 1:24 pm, myopiac...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Feb 12, 9:30 am, "javerra" <tnava...@flipforwardinteractive.com
wrote:
I have fairly moderate myopia -10.5 & -12, I've been wearing
disposable soft contacts for the past few years and maybe swam
considering itching to gas permeable lenses. Is there any advantage
to one or another? Does anyone have any recommendations. Also, I
find myself in an environment where I do near work nealry all day
(looking at a computer monitor). With my degree of correction is
there anything that I should be really concerned about since im
looking at a screen nearly all day? I appreciate any opions out
there.
Tom
Dear Tom,
-10.5 & -12 are not moderate. They are pretty severe. Since you do
near work all day, it is better to wear reading glasses over your
contact lenses while doing near work. This will prevent your myopia
from getting worse. The power of the reading glasses depends on the
distance between your eyes and the computer monitor. If the monitor
is 20" (0.5m) away from your eyes, you could use +2.00D reading
glasses.
D = 1/f = 1/0.5 = +2.00
If the monitor is further away, you could use +1.50D reading
glasses.
Try to read at your maximum clear distance. It is best to read at the
distance where the letters appear very slighly blurred but still
legible. This eliminates all the stress in the eye which causes the
myopia to get worse.
Hope this helps.
Best regards,
Myopia Cure Promoterhttp://www.geocities.com/myopiacure
The reason this advice is worthless is because it is based upon the
fundamental misunderstanding that accommodative "stress" causes
myopia. What is more likely the case is that inadequate accommodation
probably contributes to myopia in a person who has the genetic
predisposition.
DrG
I appreciate the discussion and find it really interesting. Is there
any solid, sound advice that can answer my questions? I just want to
do everything in my power to keep my sight from getting any worse than
it is.
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| Mike Tyner |
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:56 pm |
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"javerra" <tnavarra@flipforwardinteractive.com> wrote
Quote: I appreciate the discussion and find it really interesting. Is there
any solid, sound advice that can answer my questions? I just want to
do everything in my power to keep my sight from getting any worse than
it is.
The solid, sound evidence says the higher your myopia, the more likely it is
genetic, and the less it has to do with anything in your environment.
So at -10 and -12, it's unlikely that modifying your glasses or contacts
could have any influence.
-MT |
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| javerra |
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:07 pm |
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On Feb 12, 3:56 pm, "Mike Tyner" <mty...@mindspring.com> wrote:
Quote: "javerra" <tnava...@flipforwardinteractive.com> wrote
I appreciate the discussion and find it really interesting. Is there
any solid, sound advice that can answer my questions? I just want to
do everything in my power to keep my sight from getting any worse than
it is.
The solid, sound evidence says the higher your myopia, the more likely it is
genetic, and the less it has to do with anything in your environment.
So at -10 and -12, it's unlikely that modifying your glasses or contacts
could have any influence.
-MT
I can tell you that is the case. My father is -13 and I have a
brother who is around -8 or -9. However, I have twin brothers who see
better than 20/20. Bad luck in the gene pool on this one. |
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| Dr. Leukoma |
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:33 pm |
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On Feb 12, 3:07 pm, "javerra" <tnava...@flipforwardinteractive.com>
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Quote: On Feb 12, 3:56 pm, "Mike Tyner" <mty...@mindspring.com> wrote:
"javerra" <tnava...@flipforwardinteractive.com> wrote
I appreciate the discussion and find it really interesting. Is there
any solid, sound advice that can answer my questions? I just want to
do everything in my power to keep my sight from getting any worse than
it is.
The solid, sound evidence says the higher your myopia, the more likely it is
genetic, and the less it has to do with anything in your environment.
So at -10 and -12, it's unlikely that modifying your glasses or contacts
could have any influence.
-MT
I can tell you that is the case. My father is -13 and I have a
brother who is around -8 or -9. However, I have twin brothers who see
better than 20/20. Bad luck in the gene pool on this one.
The primary catalyst for your myopia is genetic. But, I am also of
the opinion that closework can also be influential in how fast it
progresses. So, there are some harmless things you can do, although
they may not work. Wearing bifocal contact lenses might be one of
those things.
DrG |
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| javerra |
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:47 pm |
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On Feb 12, 4:33 pm, "Dr. Leukoma" <d...@leukoma.com> wrote:
Quote: On Feb 12, 3:07 pm, "javerra" <tnava...@flipforwardinteractive.com
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On Feb 12, 3:56 pm, "Mike Tyner" <mty...@mindspring.com> wrote:
"javerra" <tnava...@flipforwardinteractive.com> wrote
I appreciate the discussion and find it really interesting. Is there
any solid, sound advice that can answer my questions? I just want to
do everything in my power to keep my sight from getting any worse than
it is.
The solid, sound evidence says the higher your myopia, the more likely it is
genetic, and the less it has to do with anything in your environment.
So at -10 and -12, it's unlikely that modifying your glasses or contacts
could have any influence.
-MT
I can tell you that is the case. My father is -13 and I have a
brother who is around -8 or -9. However, I have twin brothers who see
better than 20/20. Bad luck in the gene pool on this one.
The primary catalyst for your myopia is genetic. But, I am also of
the opinion that closework can also be influential in how fast it
progresses. So, there are some harmless things you can do, although
they may not work. Wearing bifocal contact lenses might be one of
those things.
DrG
How about wearing reading glasses while working at the computer. good/
bad idea?
Tom |
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| Mike Tyner |
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:19 pm |
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"javerra" <tnavarra@flipforwardinteractive.com> wrote
Quote: How about wearing reading glasses while working at the computer. good/
bad idea?
Won't hurt, won't help.
Push your monitor out as far as you're comfortable. Reading very close might
contribute, a little.
-MT |
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| Dr. Leukoma |
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:32 pm |
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On Feb 12, 3:47 pm, "javerra" <tnava...@flipforwardinteractive.com>
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Quote: On Feb 12, 4:33 pm, "Dr. Leukoma" <d...@leukoma.com> wrote:
On Feb 12, 3:07 pm, "javerra" <tnava...@flipforwardinteractive.com
wrote:
On Feb 12, 3:56 pm, "Mike Tyner" <mty...@mindspring.com> wrote:
"javerra" <tnava...@flipforwardinteractive.com> wrote
I appreciate the discussion and find it really interesting. Is there
any solid, sound advice that can answer my questions? I just want to
do everything in my power to keep my sight from getting any worse than
it is.
The solid, sound evidence says the higher your myopia, the more likely it is
genetic, and the less it has to do with anything in your environment.
So at -10 and -12, it's unlikely that modifying your glasses or contacts
could have any influence.
-MT
I can tell you that is the case. My father is -13 and I have a
brother who is around -8 or -9. However, I have twin brothers who see
better than 20/20. Bad luck in the gene pool on this one.
The primary catalyst for your myopia is genetic. But, I am also of
the opinion that closework can also be influential in how fast it
progresses. So, there are some harmless things you can do, although
they may not work. Wearing bifocal contact lenses might be one of
those things.
DrG
How about wearing reading glasses while working at the computer. good/
bad idea?
Tom- Hide quoted text -
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Do you suffer from blurred distance vison after a long session at the
computer? How long does it take your vision to clear? Has somebody
ever measured how much accommodation you actually have? If you don't
have enough accommodation, then you should be using reading glasses.
If you are unable to relax your accommodation after prolonged close
work, then maybe that should be addressed as well.
DrG |
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