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Guest
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:41 pm
Most origin scenarios suggest
something (life) started out of nothing (non life).
"The origin process may have been kickstarted in some way."

There was never the creation of something out of nothing.
There was no magic moment with non life on one side, and life on the other.
Life did not pop and then adapt.
There was never an origin of life.

Something DID come out of normal chemical reactions to the forced
energy in the environment, and over time these processes were not only
stable but were novel in their ability to use that forced energy, and
replicate to carry the stability (descent with modification) over time.

Something never came out of nothing.
But something came from chemical reactions to forces in the environment.

Seeing life as an origin is a fallacy that is a dead end.
Seeing life as a slow reaction to energy forces, ends the impasse
that scientists are having, and moves us forward.
Bob Kolker
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:40 am
Guest
TomHendricks474@cs.com wrote:

Quote:

There was never the creation of something out of nothing.
There was no magic moment with non life on one side, and life on the other.
Life did not pop and then adapt.
There was never an origin of life.

Really? The cosmos came into existence from nothing in an instant. At
the very least the assumption of ex nihilo existence does not lead to a
contradiction. First there was nothing, then there was something. Or so
it would appear.

Bob Kolker
Alan Meyer
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:43 am
Guest
<TomHendricks474@cs.com> wrote in message news:eqoun1$2rj6$1@darwin.ediacara.org...
Quote:
Most origin scenarios suggest
something (life) started out of nothing (non life).

Of course the premise here is totally wrong. Non-life is not the
same as nothing.

Alan
Alan Meyer
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:11 am
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"Alan Meyer" <ameyer2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eqsprn$17b0$1@darwin.ediacara.org...
Quote:

TomHendricks474@cs.com> wrote in message news:eqoun1$2rj6$1@darwin.ediacara.org...
Most origin scenarios suggest
something (life) started out of nothing (non life).

Of course the premise here is totally wrong. Non-life is not the
same as nothing.

I will add that if the premise were true, then when an organism
dies we would be turning something into nothing - which also
violates the conservation laws.

Alan
 
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