When business is blurred by relationships someone will get hurt. Payment
although deemed due by some will be considered paid by others for
services rendered. The ogre throws out the baby with the bathwater, then
cries foul.

George wrote:

When business is blurred by relationships someone will get hurt. Payment
although deemed due by some will be considered paid by others for
services rendered. The ogre throws out the baby with the bathwater, then
cries foul.

BS! George.
there were no services rendered of any kind.
In fact, the original agreement was that $150.00 rent which included
utilities, access to a washing machine and dryer, etc. was deemed 'more
than reasonable' and the renter agreed to do some work around the place.
None of the work done, was in the field that the renter was employed in,
and there was at least one item namely the main valve which could have
been replaced.
The quote from another unlicensed plumber to replace the main valve, was
$180.00. $100.00 for the work and $80.00 in parts.
In fact, some of the services rendered included Orff Schlwerk sessions
while I did the manual labor, In fact, I have been doing my own manual
labor for years.
There was some other stuff done, but not just by him, in fact, he wanted
a laborer, and found one for me to hire through the Mission, then he
went into his room and did whatever. If he was ill from his medications
that was ok with me, as I also have hepatitis C and know that I can't
push myself to complete the job within the same time span as I used to
be able too.
In fact, George, the only thing which he really did was mow the front
lawn and I did the back yard which is larger and includes a slight
incline.
Also, the trench that was dug for electrical to barn area. I was the
one who refilled the trench and he was pissy about something. We both
refilled the trench through the back pasture, but then he quit and
wouldn't complete the job.
On the septic system, it would have cost me $150.00 or whatever to have
the septic company dig out around the opening, I decided i wasn't going
to do it as my back was hurting at the time from hanging an inside door
which it is my understanding your daughter can do better than I can and
without any help from you know who.
So he finally decided to o out and dig up the cover to the septic.
There is more, and you wanted to know what we were silently brooding
about and waiting each other out on?

22 months George, and a bunch of crap from hetero-phobes!

--

Hoof

*Hetero* PRIDE !!
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hoofprints wrote:

George wrote:

When business is blurred by relationships someone will get hurt. Payment
although deemed due by some will be considered paid by others for
services rendered. The ogre throws out the baby with the bathwater, then
cries foul.

BS! George.
there were no services rendered of any kind.
In fact, the original agreement was that $150.00 rent which included
utilities, access to a washing machine and dryer, etc. was deemed 'more
than reasonable' and the renter agreed to do some work around the place.
None of the work done, was in the field that the renter was employed in,
and there was at least one item namely the main valve which could have
been replaced.
The quote from another unlicensed plumber to replace the main valve, was
$180.00. $100.00 for the work and $80.00 in parts.
In fact, some of the services rendered included Orff Schlwerk sessions
while I did the manual labor, In fact, I have been doing my own manual
labor for years.
There was some other stuff done, but not just by him, in fact, he wanted
a laborer, and found one for me to hire through the Mission, then he
went into his room and did whatever. If he was ill from his medications
that was ok with me, as I also have hepatitis C and know that I can't
push myself to complete the job within the same time span as I used to
be able too.
In fact, George, the only thing which he really did was mow the front
lawn and I did the back yard which is larger and includes a slight
incline.
Also, the trench that was dug for electrical to barn area. I was the
one who refilled the trench and he was pissy about something. We both
refilled the trench through the back pasture, but then he quit and
wouldn't complete the job.
On the septic system, it would have cost me $150.00 or whatever to have
the septic company dig out around the opening, I decided i wasn't going
to do it as my back was hurting at the time from hanging an inside door
which it is my understanding your daughter can do better than I can and
without any help from you know who.
So he finally decided to o out and dig up the cover to the septic.
There is more, and you wanted to know what we were silently brooding
about and waiting each other out on?

22 months George, and a bunch of crap from hetero-phobes!

And I was the one paying for the dogs food, shots, and otc dog ear
medicine. The later two items were not even a part of the bill that
'he' asked me to give to him. And now he tells me or asks me Why didn't
you give me the bill when I was living there? uh, because you asked me
for the bill while you were walking out the door.

PPS: on the refund. the refund was because his plans fell through up in

hoofprints wrote:

hoofprints wrote:

George wrote:

When business is blurred by relationships someone will get hurt. Payment
although deemed due by some will be considered paid by others for
services rendered. The ogre throws out the baby with the bathwater, then
cries foul.

BS! George.
there were no services rendered of any kind.
In fact, the original agreement was that $150.00 rent which included
utilities, access to a washing machine and dryer, etc. was deemed 'more
than reasonable' and the renter agreed to do some work around the place.
None of the work done, was in the field that the renter was employed in,
and there was at least one item namely the main valve which could have
been replaced.
The quote from another unlicensed plumber to replace the main valve, was
$180.00. $100.00 for the work and $80.00 in parts.
In fact, some of the services rendered included Orff Schlwerk sessions
while I did the manual labor, In fact, I have been doing my own manual
labor for years.
There was some other stuff done, but not just by him, in fact, he wanted
a laborer, and found one for me to hire through the Mission, then he
went into his room and did whatever. If he was ill from his medications
that was ok with me, as I also have hepatitis C and know that I can't
push myself to complete the job within the same time span as I used to
be able too.
In fact, George, the only thing which he really did was mow the front
lawn and I did the back yard which is larger and includes a slight
incline.
Also, the trench that was dug for electrical to barn area. I was the
one who refilled the trench and he was pissy about something. We both
refilled the trench through the back pasture, but then he quit and
wouldn't complete the job.
On the septic system, it would have cost me $150.00 or whatever to have
the septic company dig out around the opening, I decided i wasn't going
to do it as my back was hurting at the time from hanging an inside door
which it is my understanding your daughter can do better than I can and
without any help from you know who.
So he finally decided to o out and dig up the cover to the septic.
There is more, and you wanted to know what we were silently brooding
about and waiting each other out on?

22 months George, and a bunch of crap from hetero-phobes!

And I was the one paying for the dogs food, shots, and otc dog ear
medicine. The later two items were not even a part of the bill that
'he' asked me to give to him. And now he tells me or asks me Why didn't
you give me the bill when I was living there? uh, because you asked me
for the bill while you were walking out the door.

PPS: on the refund. the refund was because his plans fell through up in
northern california and so he couldn't keep the dog. then he tells me he
is also being evicted from his place of residence, so I gave him the
refund and told him to pay his rent. He had agreements with Roger for
one that I know of and that job wasn't completed, instead he moved
here. I tried to tell him that Rogers yard was ok for the dog, but he
still wanted to move here.
Now why did he want to move in here so badly George, was it the SPP
connection or the UK SMDH connection.?

PPPS: If you are the one true George, not a sock, I have another thing

hoofprints wrote:

hoofprints wrote:

hoofprints wrote:

George wrote:

When business is blurred by relationships someone will get hurt. Payment
although deemed due by some will be considered paid by others for
services rendered. The ogre throws out the baby with the bathwater, then
cries foul.

BS! George.
there were no services rendered of any kind.
In fact, the original agreement was that $150.00 rent which included
utilities, access to a washing machine and dryer, etc. was deemed 'more
than reasonable' and the renter agreed to do some work around the place.
None of the work done, was in the field that the renter was employed in,
and there was at least one item namely the main valve which could have
been replaced.
The quote from another unlicensed plumber to replace the main valve, was
$180.00. $100.00 for the work and $80.00 in parts.
In fact, some of the services rendered included Orff Schlwerk sessions
while I did the manual labor, In fact, I have been doing my own manual
labor for years.
There was some other stuff done, but not just by him, in fact, he wanted
a laborer, and found one for me to hire through the Mission, then he
went into his room and did whatever. If he was ill from his medications
that was ok with me, as I also have hepatitis C and know that I can't
push myself to complete the job within the same time span as I used to
be able too.
In fact, George, the only thing which he really did was mow the front
lawn and I did the back yard which is larger and includes a slight
incline.
Also, the trench that was dug for electrical to barn area. I was the
one who refilled the trench and he was pissy about something. We both
refilled the trench through the back pasture, but then he quit and
wouldn't complete the job.
On the septic system, it would have cost me $150.00 or whatever to have
the septic company dig out around the opening, I decided i wasn't going
to do it as my back was hurting at the time from hanging an inside door
which it is my understanding your daughter can do better than I can and
without any help from you know who.
So he finally decided to o out and dig up the cover to the septic.
There is more, and you wanted to know what we were silently brooding
about and waiting each other out on?

22 months George, and a bunch of crap from hetero-phobes!

And I was the one paying for the dogs food, shots, and otc dog ear
medicine. The later two items were not even a part of the bill that
'he' asked me to give to him. And now he tells me or asks me Why didn't
you give me the bill when I was living there? uh, because you asked me
for the bill while you were walking out the door.

PPS: on the refund. the refund was because his plans fell through up in
northern california and so he couldn't keep the dog. then he tells me he
is also being evicted from his place of residence, so I gave him the
refund and told him to pay his rent. He had agreements with Roger for
one that I know of and that job wasn't completed, instead he moved
here. I tried to tell him that Rogers yard was ok for the dog, but he
still wanted to move here.
Now why did he want to move in here so badly George, was it the SPP
connection or the UK SMDH connection.?

PPPS: If you are the one true George, not a sock, I have another thing
to say directly to you re: your Christmas past 04. When your step
daughter became concerned nay, frantic about what you were encouraging
her son to do on Christmas, you 'again' didn't listen. She was frantic
because she had lost custody of her minor child, and only had visitation
rights, she didn't want to 'lose' those rights on top of custody of
minor child. Did you do your usual George. tell her to stifle it. On
the other hand, I also took your side as I know that what you were
requesting is a tradition in many families, but she ws frantic none the
less. And she wanted your son to come to your christmas dinner last year
to have a go at you again over that one single issue. that would be
Robbie, not Pam who is your biological daughter.
After you reentered the picture George, I felt as though i was caught up
in some 'weird divorce' bad scene between your first wife and yourself.

--

Hoof

*Hetero* PRIDE !!
{ Disclaimer: Non Existent words contained within this poast
were created in response to the Paperwork Reduction Act.}
{If you have a problem with that,
take it to the Environmentalists Complaint Dept.}
A Free Thinker. © 2003

Is this thread an indirect plea for couple's therapy or something?
I'm sure it's my fault I can't see why you guys are working this out
here instead of private email.
hoofprints wrote:
hoofprints wrote:

hoofprints wrote:

hoofprints wrote:

George wrote:

When business is blurred by relationships someone will get hurt. Payment
although deemed due by some will be considered paid by others for
services rendered. The ogre throws out the baby with the bathwater, then
cries foul.

BS! George.
there were no services rendered of any kind.
In fact, the original agreement was that $150.00 rent which included
utilities, access to a washing machine and dryer, etc. was deemed 'more
than reasonable' and the renter agreed to do some work around the place.
None of the work done, was in the field that the renter was employed in,
and there was at least one item namely the main valve which could have
been replaced.
The quote from another unlicensed plumber to replace the main valve, was
$180.00. $100.00 for the work and $80.00 in parts.
In fact, some of the services rendered included Orff Schlwerk sessions
while I did the manual labor, In fact, I have been doing my own manual
labor for years.
There was some other stuff done, but not just by him, in fact, he wanted
a laborer, and found one for me to hire through the Mission, then he
went into his room and did whatever. If he was ill from his medications
that was ok with me, as I also have hepatitis C and know that I can't
push myself to complete the job within the same time span as I used to
be able too.
In fact, George, the only thing which he really did was mow the front
lawn and I did the back yard which is larger and includes a slight
incline.
Also, the trench that was dug for electrical to barn area. I was the
one who refilled the trench and he was pissy about something. We both
refilled the trench through the back pasture, but then he quit and
wouldn't complete the job.
On the septic system, it would have cost me $150.00 or whatever to have
the septic company dig out around the opening, I decided i wasn't going
to do it as my back was hurting at the time from hanging an inside door
which it is my understanding your daughter can do better than I can and
without any help from you know who.
So he finally decided to o out and dig up the cover to the septic.
There is more, and you wanted to know what we were silently brooding
about and waiting each other out on?

22 months George, and a bunch of crap from hetero-phobes!

And I was the one paying for the dogs food, shots, and otc dog ear
medicine. The later two items were not even a part of the bill that
'he' asked me to give to him. And now he tells me or asks me Why didn't
you give me the bill when I was living there? uh, because you asked me
for the bill while you were walking out the door.

PPS: on the refund. the refund was because his plans fell through up in
northern california and so he couldn't keep the dog. then he tells me he
is also being evicted from his place of residence, so I gave him the
refund and told him to pay his rent. He had agreements with Roger for
one that I know of and that job wasn't completed, instead he moved
here. I tried to tell him that Rogers yard was ok for the dog, but he
still wanted to move here.
Now why did he want to move in here so badly George, was it the SPP
connection or the UK SMDH connection.?

PPPS: If you are the one true George, not a sock, I have another thing
to say directly to you re: your Christmas past 04. When your step
daughter became concerned nay, frantic about what you were encouraging
her son to do on Christmas, you 'again' didn't listen. She was frantic
because she had lost custody of her minor child, and only had visitation
rights, she didn't want to 'lose' those rights on top of custody of
minor child. Did you do your usual George. tell her to stifle it. On
the other hand, I also took your side as I know that what you were
requesting is a tradition in many families, but she ws frantic none the
less. And she wanted your son to come to your christmas dinner last year
to have a go at you again over that one single issue. that would be
Robbie, not Pam who is your biological daughter.
After you reentered the picture George, I felt as though i was caught up
in some 'weird divorce' bad scene between your first wife and yourself.

--

Hoof

*Hetero* PRIDE !!
{ Disclaimer: Non Existent words contained within this poast
were created in response to the Paperwork Reduction Act.}
{If you have a problem with that,
take it to the Environmentalists Complaint Dept.}
A Free Thinker. © 2003

When business is blurred by relationships someone will get hurt. Payment
although deemed due by some will be considered paid by others for
services rendered. The ogre throws out the baby with the bathwater, then
cries foul.

George wrote:

When business is blurred by relationships someone will get hurt.
Payment although deemed due by some will be considered paid by others
for services rendered. The ogre throws out the baby with the
bathwater, then cries foul.

PS: George,
I didn't throw the baby out with the bathwater, but as you seem to
think that relationships are equated with 'services rendered', You
first wife rendered you three children, and you copped the attitude of
a 'dead beat dad' refusing to pay her child support.
How come George?
Was it to make her life and the lives of your natural born children
hell?
Your youngest son rendered his services to you, and you wouldn't pay
him for those services, yet, I hear that you collected well over the
amount of $50,000.00 that you collected from whomever you serviced,
and neglected to pay for his services. Yaknow, signing you name to a
contract for Direct TV just doesn't cut it when you look at the amount
you owe to him for working at your INC. business. And I know that,
your first wife struggled as a single mother, with three small
children to raise by herself, and you refused to pay her child
support. Yep, George you are a real wiener!! Always giving to the
'new wife's children first, instead of taking care of your own.

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George wrote:

When business is blurred by relationships someone will get hurt.
Payment although deemed due by some will be considered paid by others
for services rendered. The ogre throws out the baby with the
bathwater, then cries foul.

PS: George,
I didn't throw the baby out with the bathwater, but as you seem to
think that relationships are equated with 'services rendered', You
first wife rendered you three children, and you copped the attitude of
a 'dead beat dad' refusing to pay her child support.
How come George?
Was it to make her life and the lives of your natural born children
hell?
Your youngest son rendered his services to you, and you wouldn't pay
him for those services, yet, I hear that you collected well over the
amount of $50,000.00 that you collected from whomever you serviced,
and neglected to pay for his services. Yaknow, signing you name to a
contract for Direct TV just doesn't cut it when you look at the amount
you owe to him for working at your INC. business. And I know that,
your first wife struggled as a single mother, with three small
children to raise by herself, and you refused to pay her child
support. Yep, George you are a real wiener!! Always giving to the
'new wife's children first, instead of taking care of your own.



You dated a deadbeat?

KNOWING he was a deadbeat?

--
ThePsyko
Public Enemy #7

ThePsyko wrote:

On 28 Dec 2006 I stormed the castle called
sci.psychology.psychotherapy and heard hoofprints cry out in
news:45941C43.F2C55099@hotmail.com...



George wrote:

When business is blurred by relationships someone will get hurt.
Payment although deemed due by some will be considered paid by
others for services rendered. The ogre throws out the baby with
the bathwater, then cries foul.

PS: George,
I didn't throw the baby out with the bathwater, but as you seem to
think that relationships are equated with 'services rendered', You
first wife rendered you three children, and you copped the attitude
of a 'dead beat dad' refusing to pay her child support.
How come George?
Was it to make her life and the lives of your natural born children
hell?
Your youngest son rendered his services to you, and you wouldn't
pay him for those services, yet, I hear that you collected well
over the amount of $50,000.00 that you collected from whomever you
serviced, and neglected to pay for his services. Yaknow, signing
you name to a contract for Direct TV just doesn't cut it when you
look at the amount you owe to him for working at your INC.
business. And I know that, your first wife struggled as a single
mother, with three small children to raise by herself, and you
refused to pay her child support. Yep, George you are a real
wiener!! Always giving to the 'new wife's children first, instead
of taking care of your own.



You dated a deadbeat?

KNOWING he was a deadbeat?

No. His father is the deadbeat passing along his dead beat legacy to
future generations.
He had good intentions but someone [his father and his 5th's wife's
daughter], kept pulling in the opposite direction and even went as far
as to bring up his ex, which caused a downhill spiral into depression.
And psyko, did you know that everyone in the Yosemite area is Cary
Stayner? so we must avoid Yosemite at all costs. [this isn't a bad
idea as Yosemite looks terrible anyway and needs to have a regrowth,
preferably free of spectators.]

On 28 Dec 2006 I stormed the castle called sci.psychology.psychotherapy
and heard hoofprints cry out in news:45943B62.95C4D982@hotmail.com...



ThePsyko wrote:

On 28 Dec 2006 I stormed the castle called
sci.psychology.psychotherapy and heard hoofprints cry out in
news:45941C43.F2C55099@hotmail.com...



George wrote:

When business is blurred by relationships someone will get hurt.
Payment although deemed due by some will be considered paid by
others for services rendered. The ogre throws out the baby with
the bathwater, then cries foul.

PS: George,
I didn't throw the baby out with the bathwater, but as you seem to
think that relationships are equated with 'services rendered', You
first wife rendered you three children, and you copped the attitude
of a 'dead beat dad' refusing to pay her child support.
How come George?
Was it to make her life and the lives of your natural born children
hell?
Your youngest son rendered his services to you, and you wouldn't
pay him for those services, yet, I hear that you collected well
over the amount of $50,000.00 that you collected from whomever you
serviced, and neglected to pay for his services. Yaknow, signing
you name to a contract for Direct TV just doesn't cut it when you
look at the amount you owe to him for working at your INC.
business. And I know that, your first wife struggled as a single
mother, with three small children to raise by herself, and you
refused to pay her child support. Yep, George you are a real
wiener!! Always giving to the 'new wife's children first, instead
of taking care of your own.



You dated a deadbeat?

KNOWING he was a deadbeat?

No. His father is the deadbeat passing along his dead beat legacy to
future generations.
He had good intentions but someone [his father and his 5th's wife's
daughter], kept pulling in the opposite direction and even went as far
as to bring up his ex, which caused a downhill spiral into depression.
And psyko, did you know that everyone in the Yosemite area is Cary
Stayner? so we must avoid Yosemite at all costs. [this isn't a bad
idea as Yosemite looks terrible anyway and needs to have a regrowth,
preferably free of spectators.]


I don't go to Yosemite. Too many people.

I prefer much quieter spots and there are many that are just as
beautiful as Yosemite IMO.

--
ThePsyko
Public Enemy #7

ThePsyko wrote:

On 28 Dec 2006 I stormed the castle called sci.psychology.psychotherapy
and heard hoofprints cry out in news:45943B62.95C4D982@hotmail.com...



ThePsyko wrote:

On 28 Dec 2006 I stormed the castle called
sci.psychology.psychotherapy and heard hoofprints cry out in
news:45941C43.F2C55099@hotmail.com...



George wrote:

When business is blurred by relationships someone will get hurt.
Payment although deemed due by some will be considered paid by
others for services rendered. The ogre throws out the baby with
the bathwater, then cries foul.

PS: George,
I didn't throw the baby out with the bathwater, but as you seem to
think that relationships are equated with 'services rendered', You
first wife rendered you three children, and you copped the attitude
of a 'dead beat dad' refusing to pay her child support.
How come George?
Was it to make her life and the lives of your natural born children
hell?
Your youngest son rendered his services to you, and you wouldn't
pay him for those services, yet, I hear that you collected well
over the amount of $50,000.00 that you collected from whomever you
serviced, and neglected to pay for his services. Yaknow, signing
you name to a contract for Direct TV just doesn't cut it when you
look at the amount you owe to him for working at your INC.
business. And I know that, your first wife struggled as a single
mother, with three small children to raise by herself, and you
refused to pay her child support. Yep, George you are a real
wiener!! Always giving to the 'new wife's children first, instead
of taking care of your own.



You dated a deadbeat?

KNOWING he was a deadbeat?

No. His father is the deadbeat passing along his dead beat legacy to
future generations.
He had good intentions but someone [his father and his 5th's wife's
daughter], kept pulling in the opposite direction and even went as far
as to bring up his ex, which caused a downhill spiral into depression.
And psyko, did you know that everyone in the Yosemite area is Cary
Stayner? so we must avoid Yosemite at all costs. [this isn't a bad
idea as Yosemite looks terrible anyway and needs to have a regrowth,
preferably free of spectators.]


I don't go to Yosemite. Too many people.

It is horrible. I remember it from the 60's, it used beautiful. Now
they have had so many fires etc. that the redwoods are just huge charred
stumps reaching to the sky.

I prefer much quieter spots and there are many that are just as
beautiful as Yosemite IMO.

I haven't been to Sequoia since they made it a national park, but I am
wondering how much it has changed.
I like the rivers around here. Especially the Kings River, or at least
I used too, before it got so crowded.
Then there is a place on the Tule river that they used to call Peace
Hole that has some interesting deep spots where you can dive off of
rocks from about 30-40 feet above the river.
We went to the head of the Kaweah, which was interesting. I had never
been up to the head waters before and we mainly would swim and rock
slide around the Three Rivers area. Even that place has undergone a lot
of change since the late 80's and is beyond my recognition. It no
longer has the arsty fartsy atmosphere it had back then.


--
ThePsyko
Public Enemy #7

--

Hoof

*Hetero* PRIDE !!
{ Disclaimer: Non Existent words contained within this poast
were created in response to the Paperwork Reduction Act.}
{If you have a problem with that,
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A Free Thinker. © 2003