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Pentcho Valev
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 2:55 am
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Relativists have always claimed Divine Albert rigorously deduced his
special relativity from two postulates and countless experimental
confirmations of the theory are in fact confirmations of the truth of
the postulates. Yet lately relativists seem to have discovered
countless violations of the theory but somehow forget to relate them to
the problem of the truth or falsehood of the postulates. So Nobel
prizewinners have found some Lorentz violation and have dared (those
that are not Nobel prizewinners would never dare) to challenge Divine
Albert and "rewrite the rules of Einstein's special theory of
relativity":

http://space.newscientist.com/article/mg19325871.400
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2006PhRvL..97b1601C

Perhaps in Very Special Relativity Einstein's false second postulate
will prove Very Little False. Perhaps not. Who knows.

Pentcho Valev
Sam Wormley
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:50 am
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Pentcho Valev wrote:
Quote:
Relativists have always claimed Divine Albert rigorously deduced his
special relativity from two postulates and countless experimental
confirmations of the theory are in fact confirmations of the truth of
the postulates. Yet lately relativists seem to have discovered
countless violations of the theory but somehow forget to relate them to
the problem of the truth or falsehood of the postulates. So Nobel
prizewinners have found some Lorentz violation and have dared (those
that are not Nobel prizewinners would never dare) to challenge Divine
Albert and "rewrite the rules of Einstein's special theory of
relativity":

http://space.newscientist.com/article/mg19325871.400
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2006PhRvL..97b1601C

Perhaps in Very Special Relativity Einstein's false second postulate
will prove Very Little False. Perhaps not. Who knows.

Pentcho Valev




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fitz
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:25 pm
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Special relativity is what it says SPECIAL.

It simply is NOT TRUE if used in any situation where there is even the
slightest gravitational force of any kind.

This is why it is used in the microcosm far more than it is used here.

All the proofs against special relativity that I have seen were by
people who did not understand the meaning of SPECIAL in special
relativity.

Fitz



Pentcho Valev wrote:
Quote:
Relativists have always claimed Divine Albert rigorously deduced his
special relativity from two postulates and countless experimental
confirmations of the theory are in fact confirmations of the truth of
the postulates. Yet lately relativists seem to have discovered
countless violations of the theory but somehow forget to relate them to
the problem of the truth or falsehood of the postulates. So Nobel
prizewinners have found some Lorentz violation and have dared (those
that are not Nobel prizewinners would never dare) to challenge Divine
Albert and "rewrite the rules of Einstein's special theory of
relativity":

http://space.newscientist.com/article/mg19325871.400
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2006PhRvL..97b1601C

Perhaps in Very Special Relativity Einstein's false second postulate
will prove Very Little False. Perhaps not. Who knows.

Pentcho Valev
Dirk Van de moortel
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:45 pm
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"fitz" <zeusrdx@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1169400349.937715.62690@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...

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Quote:
Pentcho Valev wrote:
Relativists have always claimed Divine Albert rigorously deduced his
special relativity from two postulates and countless experimental
confirmations of the theory are in fact confirmations of the truth of
the postulates. Yet lately relativists seem to have discovered
countless violations of the theory but somehow forget to relate them to
the problem of the truth or falsehood of the postulates. So Nobel
prizewinners have found some Lorentz violation and have dared (those
that are not Nobel prizewinners would never dare) to challenge Divine
Albert and "rewrite the rules of Einstein's special theory of
relativity":

http://space.newscientist.com/article/mg19325871.400
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2006PhRvL..97b1601C

Perhaps in Very Special Relativity Einstein's false second postulate
will prove Very Little False. Perhaps not. Who knows.

Pentcho Valev

Special relativity is what it says SPECIAL.

It simply is NOT TRUE if used in any situation where there is even the
slightest gravitational force of any kind.

Actually, practically speaking, it is valid in every situation
where the "gravitational force of any kind" is sufficiently
small to have influence on the measurements and therefore
to remain undetected.

Quote:

This is why it is used in the microcosm far more than it is used here.

All the proofs against special relativity that I have seen were by
people who did not understand the meaning of SPECIAL in special
relativity.

You haven't seen the proofs made by people who didn't
have a clue about relativity then ;-)

Cheers,
Dirk Vdm
John Jones
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:15 pm
Joined: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 4263
Pentcho Valev wrote:

Quote:
Relativists have always claimed Divine Albert rigorously deduced his
special relativity from two postulates and countless experimental
confirmations of the theory are in fact confirmations of the truth of
the postulates. Yet lately relativists seem to have discovered
countless violations of the theory but somehow forget to relate them to
the problem of the truth or falsehood of the postulates. So Nobel
prizewinners have found some Lorentz violation and have dared (those
that are not Nobel prizewinners would never dare) to challenge Divine
Albert and "rewrite the rules of Einstein's special theory of
relativity":

http://space.newscientist.com/article/mg19325871.400
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2006PhRvL..97b1601C

Perhaps in Very Special Relativity Einstein's false second postulate
will prove Very Little False. Perhaps not. Who knows.

Pentcho Valev
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