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| William Stacy |
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Dr. Leukoma wrote:
Quote: ...especially those who respond to the responses and the responses to
the responses.
Hey, I don't see a problem with responding to a real doc who is talking
about something a troll says. The troll gets no joy from that. I just
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| Scott Seidman |
| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:53 pm |
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"Dr. Leukoma" <drg@leukoma.com> wrote in news:1167937376.238374.110040@
51g2000cwl.googlegroups.com:
Quote: Myopia prevention is a pretty important topic IMHO, and there is lots
of research going on,
True enough, and the NEI is still pretty interested. I'd still love to see
a public health analysis, though.
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Scott
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| Dr. Leukoma |
| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:05 pm |
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William Stacy wrote:
Quote: Dr. Leukoma wrote:
...especially those who respond to the responses and the responses to
the responses.
Hey, I don't see a problem with responding to a real doc who is talking
about something a troll says. The troll gets no joy from that. I just
object to posting to the troll directly, which is all they live for.
How do you know which of us is genuine? Maybe we should add our
license numbers to our signature line.
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| Dr. Leukoma |
| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:11 pm |
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Scott Seidman wrote:
Quote: True enough, and the NEI is still pretty interested. I'd still love to see
a public health analysis, though.
Are you implying that treating myopes with more bifocals is more
expensive in the long run than single vision lenses? What about the
self esteem involved in kids wearing bifocals vs. single vision lenses?
Of course, accommodative ability will suffer as the eye gets used to
never having to accommodate. But, who needs accommodation.
Accommodation must be bad if it causes myopia. |
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| William Stacy |
| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:12 pm |
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It's pretty obvious by the posts who has had an education, and I mean
ANY formal education, in optometry/ophthalmology and who hasn't.
Res ipse loquitur.
Dr. Leukoma wrote:
Quote: William Stacy wrote:
Dr. Leukoma wrote:
...especially those who respond to the responses and the responses to
the responses.
Hey, I don't see a problem with responding to a real doc who is talking
about something a troll says. The troll gets no joy from that. I just
object to posting to the troll directly, which is all they live for.
How do you know which of us is genuine? Maybe we should add our
license numbers to our signature line.
DrG
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| Dan Abel |
| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:44 pm |
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In article <1167944712.898429.258990@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com>,
"Dr. Leukoma" <drg@leukoma.com> wrote:
Quote: William Stacy wrote:
Dr. Leukoma wrote:
...especially those who respond to the responses and the responses to
the responses.
Hey, I don't see a problem with responding to a real doc who is talking
about something a troll says. The troll gets no joy from that. I just
object to posting to the troll directly, which is all they live for.
How do you know which of us is genuine? Maybe we should add our
license numbers to our signature line.
I have a bunch of license numbers. Most aren't mine (my driver's
license is genuine). If I copy the license number of my OD from my last
prescription to my sig, does that make me credible?
:-( |
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| Scott Seidman |
| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:03 pm |
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"Dr. Leukoma" <drg@leukoma.com> wrote in
news:1167945093.950786.33840@s80g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
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Scott Seidman wrote:
True enough, and the NEI is still pretty interested. I'd still love
to see a public health analysis, though.
Are you implying that treating myopes with more bifocals is more
expensive in the long run than single vision lenses? What about the
self esteem involved in kids wearing bifocals vs. single vision
lenses?
Of course, accommodative ability will suffer as the eye gets used to
never having to accommodate. But, who needs accommodation.
Accommodation must be bad if it causes myopia.
No-- actually, I'm not sure that the cost of life-long spectacle
correction AT ALL is a large enough public health problem to justify the
research effort. Add any protective benefits that spectacle correction
has-- will more people get hurt if less people wear glasses? In a world
where NIH paylines are dropping precipitously, is this where the money
needs to be spent?
Except for high myopes (who may very well be a different beast, and fall
entirely outside of most myopia studies), I tend to look at spectacles as
pretty much a cure-- and an inexpensive one, at that. Now, presbyopia--
that's annoying-- with no convenient "cure".
I'm not sure the child's stigma of wearing bifocals is all that much
greater than the stigma of wearing a single vision lens in a way that has
any public health impact. For extreme cases, maybe this has more impact,
but I'm not sure that the extreme cases bear any resemblance to normal
myopia progression.
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Scott
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| Dr. Leukoma |
| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:33 pm |
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Dan Abel wrote:
Quote: I have a bunch of license numbers. Most aren't mine (my driver's
license is genuine). If I copy the license number of my OD from my last
prescription to my sig, does that make me credible?
Shouldn't it?
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| Dan Abel |
| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:30 pm |
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In article <1167950017.981209.37440@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com>,
"Dr. Leukoma" <drg@leukoma.com> wrote:
Quote: Dan Abel wrote:
I have a bunch of license numbers. Most aren't mine (my driver's
license is genuine). If I copy the license number of my OD from my last
prescription to my sig, does that make me credible?
Shouldn't it?
I'm not sure that I understand, but I realized that I have three
vehicles with genuine license numbers. Does that make me more credible
than you?
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| Dr. Leukoma |
| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:51 pm |
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Dan Abel wrote:
Quote: I'm not sure that I understand, but I realized that I have three
vehicles with genuine license numbers. Does that make me more credible
than you?
What if I told you that perceiving more contrast on the green side of
the duochrome chart indicated that you were overminused. Would I have
more credibility if you thought I was an optometrist or if you thought
I was an unemployed part-time student living in his parent's basement?
DrG |
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| Dan Abel |
| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:05 pm |
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In article <1167958261.794804.160680@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
"Dr. Leukoma" <drg@leukoma.com> wrote:
Quote: Dan Abel wrote:
I'm not sure that I understand, but I realized that I have three
vehicles with genuine license numbers. Does that make me more credible
than you?
What if I told you that perceiving more contrast on the green side of
the duochrome chart indicated that you were overminused. Would I have
more credibility if you thought I was an optometrist or if you thought
I was an unemployed part-time student living in his parent's basement?
Perhaps the joke has gone on too long. I was just trying to point out
that seagal not only could put a "dr." in front of it's name, but could
also put a fake OD license number in it's .sig.
I wasn't questioning you personally. |
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| Dr. Leukoma |
| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:31 pm |
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Dan Abel wrote:
Quote: In article <1167958261.794804.160680@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
Perhaps the joke has gone on too long. I was just trying to point out
that seagal not only could put a "dr." in front of it's name, but could
also put a fake OD license number in it's .sig.
I wasn't questioning you personally.
Precisely the point. I was only joking when I mentioned it.
DrG |
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