Dang. Got off the 'net for 4 or 5 days and the idiotic "Dr." Segal has
managed to troll the group into a worthless batch of babble soup.

I suggest what really worked pretty well with Otis for awhile. Stop
responding to his crap and he will eventually crawl down under someone
elses bridge.

w.stacy, o.d.

Dang. Got off the 'net for 4 or 5 days and the idiotic "Dr." Segal has
managed to troll the group into a worthless batch of babble soup.

I suggest what really worked pretty well with Otis for awhile. Stop
responding to his crap

Welcome back William,

I always suggest that science is a coversation.

And I always suggest that we have access to
the preventive second-opinion.

I certainly do understand your majority opinion.

===========================

Dear Prevention minded friends,

Subject: How preventive methods are destroyed.

The few optometrists who support the plus-preventive method
receive endless abuse. This has been the history of "medicine" --
and WE SHOULD LEARN FROM IT.

So if you receive abuse -- then consider you have joined the
small group of people (lay and professional) who advocate
INTELLIGENT change.

This obviously means that not only the OD must change, but we
the lay public must change also. Otherwise we lose our distant
vision permanently.

Best,

Otis

================

(Copy of letter -- Clarification in parenthesis. OSB)

1/7/96 - Jacob's Daughter

Dear Maurice and family, February 5, 1978

I just received your letter with the shocking news of the
mistreatment of Maurice because of his courageous efforts to
promote a cause which could be of tremendous benefit to mankind.
I went through this with my Dad, but he did not make a big enough
impact to bring about the kind of retaliation which Maurice is now
being subjected to. In fact, Dad was afraid his license might be
in jeopardy if he continued to practice; that was one of the
reasons why he retired from active practice and no longer charged
for his services.

I don't know if you have seen the enclosed newspaper article,
(about my father's efforts with the plus-lens) but I have had some
copies made to send to relatives and friends who donate or become
members of IMPA (International Myopia Prevention Association). My
father would have been so proud of you Maurice, as I am. I wish I
knew of some way to help, but I, too, have become discouraged by
the attitude of the optometrists here.

I have tried to interest someone in the profession to help me
start a branch of IMPA in this area, but they don't even bother to
return my phone calls. They are too busy making money, I guess.

After I received your letter, I went to the public library
and checked out a book that made a tremendous impression on me at
the time I read it many years ago, "The Cry and the Covenant", by
Morton Thompson. It is the story of Dr. Ignaz Philipp
Semmelweis' efforts to get the medical profession to accept his
simple remedy of cleanliness. He was unsuccessful. The following
quoted passages are apropos.

"Do you know," said Arneth slowly, "it's true of your
discovery as it has been of every discovery in this whole history
of medicine. When we take our medical oath we undertake to
lengthen life and ease suffering. We are all united in seeking
new means. And every time a man has come forward with a
demonstrable truth, a remedy for good, the profession seems to
have done its best to crush the discover and hide the discovery.
No quackery -- no criminality -- nothing seems to make us so
furious as a discovery." (Page 367)

In reply to a statement by one of his few medical friends,
who has just told Semmelwiess that he is being called a fool, he
replies:

"Well they could call me an adulterer and a thief -- they can
spit on me and curse the mother who bore me -- and if they wash
their hands I will smile at them. I will humbly thank them. I
will get down on my knees and praise the breath that calls me
fool. Only let the murdering dogs wash their hands!" (Page 369)

Ignaz Philipp worked grimly on. There were evenings when he
walked the streets of Buda alone, fevered for more scope, for more
patients, desperate to spread the truth in a world thunderclap.
And when his legs were tired and his mind had calmed at last, he
made peace with things as they were. And he planned long dreams
and nourished the small flame he had lit. He guarded it jealously
and each month was a new hope that tomorrow, surely, tomorrow, at
the very latest, the world would wake with a start and the truth
would be everywhere. All his hopes were in Budapest now. From
this small clinic, if he kept proving and saving, month after
month, the news must one day be the world's." (Page 374)

I wish I had some influence to help you Maurice, but alas,
there is nothing I can do except to let you know how I feel about
you and the dedication you are showing. Perhaps after Rehm's book
("The Myopia Myth") is published, which he indicates will be
sometime this year, some impact may be made here in the U.S.,
which hopefully will carry over into your country. If not,
perhaps you might consider coming to the U.S. to practice your
profession; at least there seems to be more freedom here to
disagree.

Please keep me advised of future developments. I'm still
optimistic enough to believe that somehow the worst is over.

Sincerely,

Shira Raphaelson

==============

William Stacy, O.D. wrote:
Dang. Got off the 'net for 4 or 5 days and the idiotic "Dr." Segal has
managed to troll the group into a worthless batch of babble soup.

I suggest what really worked pretty well with Otis for awhile. Stop
responding to his crap and he will eventually crawl down under someone
elses bridge.

w.stacy, o.d.

Dang. Got off the 'net for 4 or 5 days and the idiotic "Dr." Segal has
managed to troll the group into a worthless batch of babble soup.

I suggest what really worked pretty well with Otis for awhile. Stop
responding to his crap and he will eventually crawl down under someone
elses bridge.

Hopefully, one day, the truth is everywhere.

While you're at it, Bill, share with me the secret of keeping spam out
of your email. My filter works pretty well, but some still get
through. I never answer it, BTW.

DrG

Dear all,

I burst into tears while reading the letter by Shira Raphaelson.

That's really sad, and I you shouldn't feel that you are toiling all

dr.seagal@yahoo.com wrote:
Dear all,

I burst into tears while reading the letter by Shira Raphaelson.

That's really sad, and I you shouldn't feel that you are toiling all
alone. I, too, made some mistakes in my early career because I was
exposed to unsubstantiated theories, like prescribing bifocals to
prevent myopia. Many of us made the same mistakes until we wised-up
and scientific studies showed us why it didn't work.

Perhaps someday optometrists will be able to prescribe lenses to
prevent myopia, albeit much more scientifically, and of much more
advanced optical design.

Do you by any chance use wavefront aberrometry in your practice?

DrG

dr.seagal@yahoo.com wrote:
Dear all,

I burst into tears while reading the letter by Shira Raphaelson.

That's really sad, and I you shouldn't feel that you are toiling all
alone. I, too, made some mistakes in my early career because I was
exposed to unsubstantiated theories,

In article <1167273155.829883.53780@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Dr. Leukoma" <drg@leukoma.com> wrote:

dr.seagal@yahoo.com wrote:
Dear all,

I burst into tears while reading the letter by Shira Raphaelson.

That's really sad, and I you shouldn't feel that you are toiling all
alone. I, too, made some mistakes in my early career because I was
exposed to unsubstantiated theories,

I did some serious thinking this morning, and realized that the earth is
really flat. I suspect that there will be some resistance to my brand
new theory. I expect that there will be some naysayers.

Once you let your e-mail address out like you do every time you post to
this forum (unless you disguise it), it's open game for the spammers,
esp. spambots. The only way to really fix it is to get another e-mail
address that you guard with a passion. I get about a hundred a day and
am about ready to do it myself. My biggest problem is inadvertently
trashing valid e-mails during my daily cleaning routine...

Dr. Leukoma wrote:

While you're at it, Bill, share with me the secret of keeping spam out
of your email. My filter works pretty well, but some still get
through. I never answer it, BTW.

Dan Abel wrote:
"Dr. Leukoma" <drg@leukoma.com> wrote:
dr.seagal@yahoo.com wrote:

I burst into tears while reading the letter by Shira Raphaelson.

That's really sad, and I you shouldn't feel that you are toiling all
alone. I, too, made some mistakes in my early career because I was
exposed to unsubstantiated theories,

I did some serious thinking this morning, and realized that the earth is
really flat. I suspect that there will be some resistance to my brand
new theory. I expect that there will be some naysayers.

It's worse than that, Dan.

Living both near the ocean AND near a couple of MAJOR geologic (seismic)
faults as you (we) do ... when this thing breaks ... you're (we're)
going swimming!