Hi all.
Conventional dental treament seems to do me very little good - it's
expensive, painful and
it just doesn't seem to succeed in preventing cavities.
I am so sick and frustrated of this situatation I am considering
quitting sugar altogether.
Actually the only thing that is keeping from doing so is that I am not
sure how affective this is -
I am looking for any evidence or research about quitting sugar in this
context, suprisingly it seems that ppl are
only intersted in quitting sugar in order to lose weight....
Any idead and comments are welcome.
Thanx.

odedwolff@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all.
Conventional dental treament seems to do me very little good - it's
expensive, painful and
it just doesn't seem to succeed in preventing cavities.
I am so sick and frustrated of this situatation I am considering
quitting sugar altogether.
Actually the only thing that is keeping from doing so is that I am not
sure how affective this is -
I am looking for any evidence or research about quitting sugar in this
context, suprisingly it seems that ppl are
only intersted in quitting sugar in order to lose weight....
Any idead and comments are welcome.
Thanx.



"Conventional" (read: "restorative") dentistry was never intended to
prevent cavities. Restorative dentistry at the BEST will restore form
and function to the dentition in a way that will not act to ENCOURAGE
the formation of new cavities.
Caries is a multi-factorial disease. It involves microbes, oral
biology, host resistance factors, and modifying influences. What this
means in plain english is that besides diet (sugars and other
fermentable carbohydrates and their variants), saliva quality and
quantity, germs, antibodies, oral hygiene, fluorides, periodic
professional cleanings and probably some other genetic factors all
influence whether or not you will get cavities.

Decreasing the number of exposures per day of your teeth to fermentable
carbohydrate (starches as well as sugars) will help. But so will proper
oral hygiene and topical fluoride agents. Regular checkups will make
restoration of any cavities you continue to have easier and more likely
to be successful long-term.

Steven Bornfeld wrote:
odedwolff@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all.
Conventional dental treament seems to do me very little good - it's
expensive, painful and
it just doesn't seem to succeed in preventing cavities.
I am so sick and frustrated of this situatation I am considering
quitting sugar altogether.
Actually the only thing that is keeping from doing so is that I am not
sure how affective this is -
I am looking for any evidence or research about quitting sugar in this
context, suprisingly it seems that ppl are
only intersted in quitting sugar in order to lose weight....
Any idead and comments are welcome.
Thanx.


"Conventional" (read: "restorative") dentistry was never intended to
prevent cavities. Restorative dentistry at the BEST will restore form
and function to the dentition in a way that will not act to ENCOURAGE
the formation of new cavities.
Caries is a multi-factorial disease. It involves microbes, oral
biology, host resistance factors, and modifying influences. What this
means in plain english is that besides diet (sugars and other
fermentable carbohydrates and their variants), saliva quality and
quantity, germs, antibodies, oral hygiene, fluorides, periodic
professional cleanings and probably some other genetic factors all
influence whether or not you will get cavities.


Decreasing the number of exposures per day of your teeth to fermentable
carbohydrate (starches as well as sugars) will help. But so will proper
oral hygiene and topical fluoride agents. Regular checkups will make
restoration of any cavities you continue to have easier and more likely
to be successful long-term.

Of course, oral hygiene and topical fluoride agents are taken care of.
I appreciate your reply, however, this is all common knowledge, and
just about every kid knows all of that.
My question was, Since all these conventional measures don't seem to
leave my mouth very healthy, what else can
I do, and more specifically, will quitting sugar altogether make a real
difference.
Thanks again for your reply, but that just not what I asked.

Thanks !
Sorry if I was a little impetiance, it just drives me nuts, having my
teeth butchered by dentists that charges me prime money and on the long
run seem
to achieve absolutly nothing (medicaly). Call this what you want, but
modern medicine it ain't.

Hi all.
Conventional dental treament seems to do me very little good - it's
expensive, painful and
it just doesn't seem to succeed in preventing cavities.
I am so sick and frustrated of this situatation I am considering
quitting sugar altogether.
Actually the only thing that is keeping from doing so is that I am not
sure how affective this is -
I am looking for any evidence or research about quitting sugar in this
context, suprisingly it seems that ppl are
only intersted in quitting sugar in order to lose weight....
Any idead and comments are welcome.
Thanx.

You have the right idea, but it's not entirely that simple. The major
caries risk factor for many people is diet. Saliva loses its ability
to buffer acid if a person consumes sugar (and carbohydrates)
throughout the day. This phenomenon is described as a "Stefan Curve."

If you have a lot of cavities and restorations you should cut out
between meal sugar consumption (including sugar-containing beverages).
Brush after each meal with a fluoride toothpaste for at least two
minutes each time with a soft toothbrush, and floss daily. I also
recommend brushing before you go to bed at night. The topical
applications of fluoride (in toothpaste) are important. If you can
get your dentist to write you a prescription for Peridex mouth rinse
(a topical antimicrobial), I also recommend that you use it once a
week. A 16 ounce bottle will last you for 32 weeks.

James

On Jan 22, 8:13 am, Jim <cillablack69-d...@yahoo.com> wrote:



You have the right idea, but it's not entirely that simple. The major
caries risk factor for many people is diet. Saliva loses its ability
to buffer acid if a person consumes sugar (and carbohydrates)
throughout the day. This phenomenon is described as a "Stefan Curve."

If you have a lot of cavities and restorations you should cut out
between meal sugar consumption (including sugar-containing beverages).
Brush after each meal with a fluoride toothpaste for at least two
minutes each time with a soft toothbrush, and floss daily. I also
recommend brushing before you go to bed at night. The topical
applications of fluoride (in toothpaste) are important. If you can
get your dentist to write you a prescription for Peridex mouth rinse
(a topical antimicrobial), I also recommend that you use it once a
week. A 16 ounce bottle will last you for 32 weeks.

JamesThanks you.
Once again, all of this is taken care of, as it is common knowledge.
I am trying to examine other solutions, because this one failed, as far
as I am concerned.

Hi all.
Conventional dental treament seems to do me very little good -
it's
expensive, painful and
it just doesn't seem to succeed in preventing cavities.
I am so sick and frustrated of this situatation I am
considering
quitting sugar altogether.
Actually the only thing that is keeping from doing so is that I
am not
sure how affective this is -
I am looking for any evidence or research about quitting sugar
in this
context, suprisingly it seems that ppl are
only intersted in quitting sugar in order to lose weight....
Any idead and comments are welcome.
Thanx.

My dentist said "phosphoric acid" several times in the same
sentence with sugar decay. Few things neutralize acids as well as
baking soda. So, I changed from Prevident prescription tooth
paste to baking soda. I've been very pleased, and much less
expensive too.

Thanks you.
Once again, all of this is taken care of, as it is common knowledge.
I am trying to examine other solutions, because this one failed, as far
as I am concerned.

Thanks you.

Once again, all of this is taken care of, as it is common knowledge.
I am trying to examine other solutions, because this one failed, as far
as I am concerned.I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but....

What part has failed?
My teeth are regularly treated by a dentist, and still in poor shape -

with sugar)?
just plain water

snack between meals?
Yes, I do , which is exactly why I raised the question in the first

Do you floss (at least daily)?
No, I have such narrow space between my teeth it is impossible for me

Do you brush
after every time you eat?
Twice daily - can't brush on work, which is where I spend most my

Have all of the decay problems been properly
detected and restored?
The Doctor seems to be a professional, I don't think the problem is

Have you been councled on diet and home care?
This is not available where I live, but I am trying to educate myself

Were you prescribed a fluoride gel for home use (custom fitted trays
are nice too)?
I use washing fluid that contains fluoride. (plus the toothpaste)
Are you on medication which dries out your mouth?
None, but I do a lot of exercise. do you think that may have something

D
Thanks

On Jan 22, 11:10 pm, Dartos <tuthjoc...@myturbonet.com> wrote:

Thanks you.


sorry for that extra 's'


Once again, all of this is taken care of, as it is common knowledge.
I am trying to examine other solutions, because this one failed, as far
as I am concerned.I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but....

What part has failed?

My teeth are regularly treated by a dentist, and still in poor shape -
sensitive, aching, especially those
that WERE threated (fillings or root canal)
Do you sip on soda (or other drink sweetened

with sugar)?

just plain water
Do you frequently use breath mints or cough drops?
just sugarless gum
Do you

snack between meals?

Yes, I do , which is exactly why I raised the question in the first
place. I would try
to cut sugar altogether, but I would rather see some evidence that it
will do good.
There seem to be many assumptions in dentistry that are held as truths.

Do you floss (at least daily)?

No, I have such narrow space between my teeth it is impossible for me
(tried it many time)
You probably have a point here - but that just makes it more necessary
for me to find an alternative.

Do you brush

after every time you eat?

Twice daily - can't brush on work, which is where I spend most my
waking hours...
Have all of the decay problems been properly

detected and restored?

The Doctor seems to be a professional, I don't think the problem is
with the quality of her work, but
with the fact that is just not the right solution for me (drilling and
filling)

Have you been councled on diet and home care?

This is not available where I live, but I am trying to educate myself
as best as I can about nutrition,
which I am sure has a key role here.

Were you prescribed a fluoride gel for home use (custom fitted trays
are nice too)?

I use washing fluid that contains fluoride. (plus the toothpaste)

Are you on medication which dries out your mouth?

None, but I do a lot of exercise. do you think that may have something
to do ?

D

Thanks

snack between meals?

Yes, I do , which is exactly why I raised the question in the first
place. I would try
to cut sugar altogether, but I would rather see some evidence that it
will do good.
There seem to be many assumptions in dentistry that are held as truths.

Do you floss (at least daily)?

No, I have such narrow space between my teeth it is impossible for me
(tried it many time)
You probably have a point here - but that just makes it more necessary
for me to find an alternative.
Do you brush

after every time you eat?

Twice daily - can't brush on work, which is where I spend most my
waking hours...
Have all of the decay problems been properly

detected and restored?

The Doctor seems to be a professional, I don't think the problem is
with the quality of her work, but
with the fact that is just not the right solution for me (drilling and
filling)

Have you been councled on diet and home care?

This is not available where I live, but I am trying to educate myself
as best as I can about nutrition,
which I am sure has a key role here.

Were you prescribed a fluoride gel for home use (custom fitted trays
are nice too)?

I use washing fluid that contains fluoride. (plus the toothpaste)

Are you on medication which dries out your mouth?

None, but I do a lot of exercise. do you think that may have something
to do ?

D

Thanks