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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:55 am
"All tetrapods - mammals, birds, reptiles - use four basic kinds of
display," MacLean explains, "Signature, challenge, courtship , and
submission..."

This quote adds more to the idea that we can look at evolution as
four paths based on food in/waste out (which originally began
as forced energy in on chemicals = forced energy).
It adds to the other classifications that fit the 4 options:
stress responses of males and females, or 3 Inner conflicts of
Karen Horney, etc.


The four options are
1. move toward nurturing
2. move against non nurturing
(the two 'across the membrane options
or +/- across the membrane)

3. hold in nurturing
4. excrete out non nurturing
(the two inside the membrane options
or +/- inside the membrane.)

The four displays seem to loosely fit-
1. move toward nurturing = courtship and or submission
2. move against non nurturing = challenge
3. hold in nurturing = Signature (draw attention to self)
4. excrete out non nurturing = ? (flight from display)

Matter of fact, just about any category of any organism is
an evolved version of food in/waste out and the 4 options IMO.
Can anyone find anything that is not?

These 4 options define the limited number of paths evolution
and or change of any kind, develops in any living thing.
It sets up a structure to better define any and all evolution or
change of any kind. It pins down evolution and better defines
specific evolution paths and their initial cause of either food/energy in
or waste out.

comment?
Gil Lawton
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:51 am
Guest
<TomHendricks474@cs.com> wrote in message
news:eplfvt$tg8$1@darwin.ediacara.org...
Quote:
"All tetrapods - mammals, birds, reptiles - use four basic kinds of
display," MacLean explains, "Signature, challenge, courtship , and
submission..."

This quote adds more to the idea that we can look at evolution as
four paths based on food in/waste out (which originally began
as forced energy in on chemicals = forced energy).
It adds to the other classifications that fit the 4 options:
stress responses of males and females, or 3 Inner conflicts of
Karen Horney, etc.


The four options are
1. move toward nurturing
2. move against non nurturing
(the two 'across the membrane options
or +/- across the membrane)

3. hold in nurturing
4. excrete out non nurturing
(the two inside the membrane options
or +/- inside the membrane.)

The four displays seem to loosely fit-
1. move toward nurturing = courtship and or submission
2. move against non nurturing = challenge
3. hold in nurturing = Signature (draw attention to self)
4. excrete out non nurturing = ? (flight from display)

Matter of fact, just about any category of any organism is
an evolved version of food in/waste out and the 4 options IMO.
Can anyone find anything that is not?

These 4 options define the limited number of paths evolution
and or change of any kind, develops in any living thing.
It sets up a structure to better define any and all evolution or
change of any kind. It pins down evolution and better defines
specific evolution paths and their initial cause of either food/energy in
or waste out.

comment?

Something about this model just doesn't feel right to me. Categories can be
constructed upon lots of variables.

I'm trying to think of four categories that would contain all living humans
at any given instant. Let's see:

Okay, how about:

People who are inhaling;
People who are exhaling,
People who are holding their breath after last having engaged in inhaling;
and,
People who are holding their breath after just having engaged in exhaling.

Perhaps, if we tried hard enough, we could attach some parallel between this
and how many robins it takes to make a spring.

I don't mean to be disrespectful or facecious. There just seems to me to be
something forced about what seem to me to be categorical analogies.

But maybe I'm just slow.

g
Tom Hendricks
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:42 am
Guest
Gil Lawton wrote:
Quote:
TomHendricks474@cs.com> wrote in message

The four options are
1. move toward nurturing
2. move against non nurturing
(the two 'across the membrane options
or +/- across the membrane)

3. hold in nurturing
4. excrete out non nurturing
(the two inside the membrane options
or +/- inside the membrane.)

The four displays seem to loosely fit-
1. move toward nurturing = courtship and or submission
2. move against non nurturing = challenge
3. hold in nurturing = Signature (draw attention to self)
4. excrete out non nurturing = ? (flight from display)

Matter of fact, just about any category of any organism is
an evolved version of food in/waste out and the 4 options IMO.
Can anyone find anything that is not?

These 4 options define the limited number of paths evolution
and or change of any kind, develops in any living thing.
It sets up a structure to better define any and all evolution or
change of any kind. It pins down evolution and better defines
specific evolution paths and their initial cause of either food/energy in
or waste out.

comment?


Okay, how about:

People who are inhaling;
People who are exhaling,
People who are holding their breath after last having engaged in inhaling;
and,
People who are holding their breath after just having engaged in exhaling.

Perhaps, if we tried hard enough, we could attach some parallel between this
and how many robins it takes to make a spring.

Well let's look at your example - I think it is a subset of my 4
options.
Option:'
1 take in nurturing = take in air.
2. block out non nurturing = don't breathe in smoke, water, etc.
3. hold in nurturing = hold in air and utilize for work
4. breathing out ,exhaling = waste out , non nurturing excreted out.



Quote:

I don't mean to be disrespectful or facecious. There just seems to me to be
something forced about what seem to me to be categorical analogies.

But maybe I'm just slow.

g
 
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